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I didnt realise you were all so besotted with sweet, little ole Mitch, I thought it was only his literary genius you were into, i'm sure he loves to read all this, i hope you forward it all to him.
>>By dhobi queen (Saturday, 7 Feb 2004 22:27)
dhobi queen,
I, too agree that the regiment should provide as much support as possible for the mental health of their troopers. I can't imagine the stress those guys have to perform under. It's a noble quest you and your son are on to learn more about this topic.
Also, I'm so sorry to hear that your friends are no longer with you. You have my deepest condolences.
But I have to ask, why do you keep referring to Andy by another name? Are you trying to "out" him on our board? If so, why don't you come clean on _your_ real name while you're at it?
>>By Majorette (Saturday, 7 Feb 2004 22:46)
my name, Suzie, no biggie, and I imagined you would all know who andy is, he outed him self many times if you read the papers etc,
>>By dhobi queen (Saturday, 7 Feb 2004 23:46)
Someone - don't remember who - said that this board is better than a comic. I think I'm gonna agree
(up to a point of course)
>>By Lynn (Sunday, 8 Feb 2004 14:51)
Suzie,
I wasn't suggesting you were a big name yourself. I was simply wondering if you were willing to post your name for the whole world to see, or if you were the type of person who preferred to deny others their right to privacy and anonymity while enjoying your own. That's all.
>>By Majorette (Sunday, 8 Feb 2004 20:02)
Andy.... Mitch.... Oh my god he's David Hasselhoff!!!!
>>By Bethan (Monday, 9 Feb 2004 10:17)
AIB
Just what I needed to read on a monday morning!! The giggles are on you.....
>>By Bethan (Monday, 9 Feb 2004 10:19)
Wow, this is getting more and more hysterical:
C & M present:
freespace.virgin.net/***(figure it out for yourself)
MEN IN BLACK !!
>>By Lynn (Monday, 9 Feb 2004 11:47)
Hmmm.... strange how I've originally been preferring CR over AM, but still I seldomly pass through the CR-board
(13 pages compared to 138 has perhaps something to do with it as well...)
It's not that I've receieved heaps of invitations though, so perhaps I should take that as a hint. Hehehe....
Anywhoo.... regarding the last comments about the Regiments attitude towards mental health and providing a service to their troops:
Those of you who have read the foreword-secion of the latest edition of TOTGA, would remember CR saying that there's always been a macho attitude within the Regiment (on all levels) when it comes to focusing on the squaddie's mental health and focus/treatment of Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome. He mentions that their sister regiment in the US - Delta Force - is much better at this, but the Regiment-guys sees this again as being too much off a good thing. He says that nobody wants to be "deltafied".
So although the UK produces the fiercest of fighting men, they seem to have their priorities meddled up (also in reference to the recent focus on the poor equipment status with the British Armed Forces in Iraq).
On the other hand; with the above-mentioned attitude existing within the troops, I suppose it's sort of a dead-end street anyway....
Re: marriages in the Regiment:
"SAS-marriages" lasting more than 10 years would be quite an achievement, both don't you think that it would all depend on how much the wifes would be willing to sacrifice, rather than their hubbies' marrital skills?
>>By ortlieb (Monday, 9 Feb 2004 13:16)
hmmmm, Ortlieb....
Excellent point, on both counts.
"Deltafied"! haha, I do not have the latest version of TOTGA, so I supposed that's how I missed that very interesting tidbit.
Nice picture, by they way!
>>By Majorette (Monday, 9 Feb 2004 14:48)
(sorry... just to clarify... the "two points" I was referring to were the statements about 1)mental health services, and 2) military priorities. I don't have any insight into what makes a successful marriage in the military, although I have a hunch it takes two people to achieve.)
>>By Majorette (Monday, 9 Feb 2004 15:00)
Shall I show my good side for a change and promote CR's new one....
THE INCREMENT
The Increment is a secret SAS assassination squad going around killing ex-soldiers during a long, hot summer of road rage incidents.
COMING THIS JUNE!
>>By Lynn (Monday, 9 Feb 2004 16:38)
(I know, the train was discussed - but not the June)
>>By Lynn (Monday, 9 Feb 2004 16:43)
(oh, the June too)
why don't I just admit I'm trying to fill the page
>>By Lynn (Monday, 9 Feb 2004 16:45)
I seem to remember from somewhere that the book
"The Sixteen" by John Urwin
has something to do with the "myth" of The Increment.....
>>By ortlieb (Monday, 9 Feb 2004 21:50)
I find it very fascinating when people arrive on the AM/CR board and pertain to concern for the mental well-being of SAS/SBS personnel, and then in the same breath name-drop in such a way as to potentially send named personages (if correct birth name is quoted) into a state of deep anxiety should they happen to alight on this boad and read detrimental postings!!
OK, a lot of people know me, not least SAS/SBS personnel, and of all the postings in which I have contributed info on PTSS etc., (on this board) not once have I mentioned real names...Does that imply I am less knowledgeable than someone who does, rightly or wrongly, truthfully or falsely, post names that have been bandied around in the press? Names often wrongly attributed to persons within a specific group structure!! At this point I will remind you all that many SAS personnel change their names upon leaving the service, and many did at one time have their names changed during service, admittedly usually applicable to deep undercover operatives, sometimes more than one name change!! I am not talking here with regards the average special forces trooper.
Getting to the real names issue: can you be absolutely 100% sure DQ that you are casting real names to the wind?
>>By devonwren (Monday, 9 Feb 2004 21:50)
With regards "The Increment", talking the real thing not fictitious meanderings, I would advise no one to look too hard for evidence of Incremental doings, otherwise you might not sleep too well at night: phone pinging for no reason, unusual sounds in dead of night, sense of someone in your house etc., etc., maybe even wake up in a cold sweat sure that someone was stood by your bed watching you sleeping, could have left you sleeping for always!!!
>>By devonwren (Monday, 9 Feb 2004 21:56)
<<<Slaps hand>>>
I have mentioned Charles "Nish" Bruce, but never in a derogatory manner, but then I admired him, truly felt for him, and had a close affinity with Para/SAS. That said, the man is dead, god rest his troubled soul, and he cannot now be hurt by unkind things said about him, and there were those who troubled him when he was alive, the same ones who claimed to be his friend after his tragic death...
>>By devonwren (Monday, 9 Feb 2004 22:02)
DEVONWREN - yes i can be totally 100% sure, I know ole AM and knew Nish, and yes, we all loved him, none of us felt the same about AM, he didn't have the intelligence that Nish had, or the sense of humour. If you ask nicely I can even let you have AMs phone number or address -both of them. You obviously love the attention all your secret knowledge gets you on this board, so you are a ghostwriter and secret keeper for the SAS/SBS, how lovely, if that were true i'm sure you would keep that secret too, not flaunt it here. Feeling a little unloved and insecure maybe? or do you get a kick out of holding some kind of power over the drooling AM fans!!
>>By dhobi queen (Monday, 9 Feb 2004 23:14)
Well done, both !
The one I know will know how well..
>>By Lynn (Monday, 9 Feb 2004 23:40)
"if that were true i'm sure you would keep that secret too, not flaunt it here"
Does that work for phone numbers / addresses / real names / who you know and who you don't? Slightly hypocritical post don't you think from someone so keen to keep reminding us of your circle of friends.
>>By Bethan (Tuesday, 10 Feb 2004 09:46)
DQ, <<Applause Applause>> . Cracking performance!!
Oh right, so you knew AM & Nish, well how about that! Who doesn't in Hereford and rest of country?
Shall we exchange notes/comparisons on Flork? Please feel free to provide telephone numbers etc, and I'll tell you if they check out with their inside leg measurements, but you'll probably know those already, yes? Provide yours and we can really ball bash the boys (metaphorically). What you say to me will never be revealed, and you obviously need to let off steam. Believe me, I've criticised AM on his board, (yet display sense of affection) and I don't think the merry gardener has been digging the whole patch over and discarding my "controversial" posts!! Jesus, I've probably sustained more long-term stick from the AM board than any other poster. Reverred I am not, attention seeking laughable, though I do think people respect my independent viewpoint, the insider knowledge still very much on the INSIDE!!!
ATTENTION: Listen up, and listen good! The attention I get is not always favourable, that is if you care to read from page one to present AM page. Are you being purposefully hostile, if so, for what reason?
Sense of Humour: would that be dry, wet, or crudely indifferent? Intellectually, yes, Nish was realms ahead of Nabby (nappy - personal one-sided joke), bit like nappy horse (unpredictable in spur of the moment crisis), but in that respect they were very similar.
In any case this is CR's board, so what's your take on him, personal like?
You gonna bash me for liking CR books?
>>By devonwren (Tuesday, 10 Feb 2004 12:16)
No, I'm not a professional ghostwriter, I did a favour for ex SF personnel. I am a friend of the Reg/Squadn, not enemy!! If I'd revealed the insider knowledge I'm party to I guess more divorces would have occurred faster than you could say JF: had I been courted by Mark Lucas. If you think AM's ex had the low down on the sexual fantasies of SF personnel you don't know the half of it, or where they played out their fantasies...
You see, when you become a true confidante to men in SF units all their troubles become yours, and you have to learn to live with their fantasies/horrors/nightmares, carry them on your back and never off-load to someone else, because if you do they can no longer trust you, implicitly...
>>By devonwren (Tuesday, 10 Feb 2004 12:28)
I'm in bossy mode so I'll put my views here too. No more personal crap please, no hints, no names, no "I know more than you do", no telephone numbers, no comparing size of "manhood".
Books / p*ss taking fair game. The rest of it, well maybe others want to know, if so they'll flork you but the majority, not interested. Ta.
>>By Bethan (Tuesday, 10 Feb 2004 17:03)
I agree with you Beth.........
though I'm extremely disappointed about the 'comparing size' part
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 10 Feb 2004 21:36)
http://www.infowars.com/print/misc/debunking.htm
could this be a story line for AM or chris?
>>By dhobi queen (Wednesday, 11 Feb 2004 06:30)
Nice one Beth, that emptied the classroom...
Not so long ago everyone was all gab, so what it is about Ryan & McNab that no longer draws forth long sighs, oohs, and a'hs and much jabberwocky?
Don't tell me, I've already been told Flork and messenger are more important...Shame that, because that means the golden boys have lost their lustre, right?!!!!
>>By devonwren (Wednesday, 11 Feb 2004 14:06)
DQ: still waiting on those numbers (flork).
>>By devonwren (Wednesday, 11 Feb 2004 14:12)
"Nice one Beth, that emptied the classroom..."
Oh devonwren, I never emptied the classroom, the people that couldn't do anything but bitch left it of their own accord..... Prove me wrong people.
>>By Bethan (Wednesday, 11 Feb 2004 14:48)
jabberwocky - wasn't that something from star wars?
>>By Bethan (Wednesday, 11 Feb 2004 14:55)
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