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Go look at this url Mhorag: http://www.specialforces.co.uk/home.htm
Select "Support Index" at bottom of page then follow though with: Use the scroll bar at bottom of page, and select "Dirty Diaries" from left-hand column. (Sunday, 15 Jun 2003 20:30)
Dirty Diaries incorrect - should read Disgraceful Diary!
Must have been Christina's mention of those pics, and all that bare flesh....
sorry folks
>>By buddy (Sunday, 15 Jun 2003 20:37)
its ok buddy but dont shift the blame to me who sent me the those pics eh i tell you people are going to think we are pervs at this rate i figured out what u were on bout and managed to get there and i am now reading disgraceful diary.
>>By christina (Sunday, 15 Jun 2003 20:45)
hi AIB check your mailbox and you to buddy.
p.s i hate hayfever
>>By christina (Sunday, 15 Jun 2003 21:55)
Nuffink in my mailbox, Christina, only bullmarket report...Spam/Bulk box had junk but I don't even look at that -just press the garbage chute button...
Good prevention for hayfever is vaseline....Keep your snout moist inside, pluck outer nostril hairs first. I don't suffer from HF, but a couple of friends say the above remedy changed their lives come high pollen counts...
Boris, you still there? Hope you didn't fall off your chair, or did yourself an injury (laughing) when you looked at pics -
>>By buddy (Monday, 16 Jun 2003 09:58)
Still here, thanks for the pics.
Why the 4 bums? Were they waiting for some injection or what.VBG.VWG.
Look at your mail.
>>By boris (Monday, 16 Jun 2003 14:14)
oh thanx Buddy for the hayfever thingy. I definatly sent you an email will send it again if you have not got it yet and you to AIB did you get it?
>>By christina (Monday, 16 Jun 2003 17:22)
Hi folks
I'm intrested in discussing Andy McNab's books, can anyone tell me if this is a regularly used discussion site I've been waiting for ages and seen no action. Is there maybee a certain time when this site is used. Im 24 years old and from sunny Scotland, I've read all McNab's books and loved every one of them, my favorite is Remote Control. I would love to hear from fellow McNab readers
>>By Brownie (Monday, 16 Jun 2003 20:07)
Hi welcome Brownie this is a regually used discussion pagecompared to the rest i have been on! that is also my favourite book as my favourite charachter is Kelly how about yours?
We all love Andy Mcnab and his books (sometimes a bit too much) How long exactly is ages? Which non fiction book is your favourite? Sorry for so many questions
Hi AIB
Ha Ha Ha i got there with questions before you AIB!
>>By christina (Monday, 16 Jun 2003 20:28)
Welcome Brownie, yep, we all like AM's work, unfortunately some of the converstions here have taken a downturn while we wait for his new book, Dark Winter.
If you like 'that kind of book', you might find the following site interesting:
www.dean-francis.co.uk
There's a few posts regarding Deans writing on this forum, and there is also a forum the same as this set up for people to exchange comments on the few samples he has on his site.
Good luck, and welcome again!
>>By Sheba (Monday, 16 Jun 2003 20:34)
Welcome, Brownie....
Yes, Christina and Sheba are right about this is probably about the only place actively discussing Andy McNab's books. And, believe it or not, this is a very active board! To give you perspective, the first page here took almost six months, now we averaging about a page a day.
We're also a very global group with time differences spanning 15 hours, so sometimes there are lags between postings. Posters (we know of) are from UK, Holland, Australia, Sweden, France/Germany, Italy, Scotland, and US.
If you want to kill time, and decide to read through the previous pages, you'll be busy. Although this site shows 41 pgs now, in actuality, copied into a Word documents, that translates into 406 pages, 4 pages short of the US and AU versions of Remote Control. I'm assuming yours is the UK version which is missing four whole pages of text in the introductory chapter.
Which reminds me, were you aware of those missing pages of text, Christina, Sheba, Scouse, and Mhorag? Boris is your version in Italian? We were trying (half-way down on pg 2) to take a survey of all the different versions....
And yes, Brownie, and you, Mhorag (I think we forgot to tell you this), please do check out Dean Francis' stories. I have no doubt that you will find them quite excellent. Plus, there is a forum for Dean Francis here at gnooks as well, where several of us have posted.
Glad you found us....
>>By am-i-binned (Monday, 16 Jun 2003 21:00)
no AIB i didn't know there missing pages of text i just thought there was the odd paragraph or something had been changed of gone!
>>By christina (Monday, 16 Jun 2003 21:59)
Hey anybody has any news about AM?
Where is he , what's he up too.
AIB : my version is in english
Christina : as for the hayfever : a good cortison injection will just do the job. (remember the pics of bums Buddy send us, haaa)
Where is everyone?
>>By boris (Monday, 16 Jun 2003 22:24)
We're here, Boris, we're here! As to where beez AM -- wouldn't we all like to know!
Since your version is in English, Boris, but you didn't say if it's a UK printing, here's how to tell whether you're missing the beginning text for Remote Control.
UK version begins: "I pinged him straight away."
US version begins: "We didn't know which of the three was going to detonate the bomb."
Amazon.com (US) has the first chapter as a sample. You can get the missing pages by going to:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/
ASIN/0345428064/qid=1055795854/
sr=2-2/ref=sr_2_2/102-0801000-3806557
(be sure to remove hard returns where the hyperlink wraps)
We've discussed this before but we cannot figure out why those pages are in the US and the Australian versions, but not the UK's -- you'd think it would be the other way around at least as far as the US version is concerned, wouldn't you?
>>By am-i-binned (Monday, 16 Jun 2003 22:54)
Hi.
My Uk-version of Remote Control (paper back) begins "We didn't know which of the three was going to detonate the bomb"
The Swedish translation (hard back) is correct.
>>By Swedish Reader (Monday, 16 Jun 2003 23:13)
Ooooh! Interesting, Swedish reader -- so the UK paperback has pages the hardback doesn't -- the mystery is even greater then!
>>By am-i-binned (Monday, 16 Jun 2003 23:17)
No no no wrong and bl..dy wrong again. Sorry didn't understand a f.....g thing, I HAVE THE ITALIAN VERSION and it starts (translated in english offcourse) : I recognised him immediately (lo riconobbi immediatamente) wich could be equal to the UK version, hmmm.
Ooh come on AIb YOU FOR ALL SAKES should know what AM is doing now...
Fed up.. going to bed.. have an early morning tomorrow.
-hey Buddy did i say something wrong, I didn't want to upset you, ...
>>By boris (Monday, 16 Jun 2003 23:33)
Wowee, the Brit contingent is growing - the tartan element having now entered field of play...I don't fly the Red Dragon Catherine Zeta Jones does a better job, but hey, it's not my flag.
Boris, no you haven't said anything wrong... I'm still ((giggling)) about your dog,
about Am-I-Binned having lost orange hat,
about Scotland being part of the United Kingdom!
Do we really care if AM books have pages missing or words/phrases changed for differing countries?
If you didn't know (someone hadn't told you) what you didn't have you wouldn't miss.
As is practice in publishing, new editions are often altered, so is it any wonder if books published in different countries differ in content...
Some things AM says/writes is not always easily translatable!!!
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 17 Jun 2003 00:08)
aib
Sorry I wasn’t clear enough. I have a very boring, mundane job, I was just working on a project, unrelated to the TA, with the man.
buddy
I have found and read disgraceful diaries (great tour of the site to find it!) and Simon King, so thanks for pointing me at them. What they are going through must be very hard to stomach, especially since it’s their own people blanking them. I like what Simon King is doing. But Scotland - part of the United Kingdom? Since when? Yeah, I know, Act of Union and all that. Way things are going now, we’ll all be part of the Federation of Regions / Assemblies / Parliaments!
brownie
Great to hear from a fellow Scot. I’m new here too.
Christina
Favourite character: Stone and I could go on for hours about why.
Non-fiction: B20, and fiction: jury’s still out on that.
>>By Mhorag (Tuesday, 17 Jun 2003 00:28)
We often speak about how global this site is. Well, if you check Dean Francis' web-site, he has had a new feature added called 'Guest Map'. It'll be interesting to see how far out we are all spread simply by pinning yourself to somewhere close to where you are!
>>By Sheba (Tuesday, 17 Jun 2003 09:17)
Yes I do mind Buddy, not a word being altered but 4 pages
less in my book - I feel cheated.
Hoi Boris, je Nederlands is erg goed, je Engels ook. En dus
Italiaans.. heb je een talenknobbel? Ik kom uit het Land van Maas en Waal trouwens.
(sorry non-Dutch speakers - I'm not cheating you of anything, it's just smalltalk)
Buddy, why did you make a connection between Dark Winter
and Italy? Did I miss something?
Lynn
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 17 Jun 2003 09:18)
The Gnod boat is two (pages) down the line from your last-but-one post message...
I guess you were too busy looking for your orange hat (LOL)
From experience during fast surfing it's easy to miss the odd white horse about to crest unexpectedly...
Dark Winter/Italy - something said in passing on shore...
Mhorag: ah politics/boundaries/shared kings, dangerous territory...The first Asian mayor was declared in Bridgend yesterday - who in a Welsh town would - a few years back - have thought to see the day...
If Dean's got a "Guest Map" why hasn't AM?
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 17 Jun 2003 10:23)
We've got a gremlin - I posted as buddy and Lynn came up
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 17 Jun 2003 10:26)
Must be to do with too much standing in corner, hat swapping in classroom, and all the imaginative "nicks" around here.
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 17 Jun 2003 10:33)
Sheba, thanks for the heads up on Dean Francis' website (not DF's gnooks forum) -- what a neat new feature! Something like that would be neat for our group here, too!
Lynn, I believe Buddy is referring to her post to Boris (Sunday, 15 Jun 2003 02:50) (pg 6, 6th post) where she said: "... I quite felt as though I'd done the grand tour all over again. Didn't I read somewhere that Italy is mentioned in Dark Winter, or was that another book?" I'm afraid I took the comment as being a non-issue question and just figured it was "another book"...
Buddy, I think your gremlin may have happened if you began your post by addressing Lynn by name. You probably typed Lynn's name in the Your name: box rather than in the Comment box -- seem an easy enough mistake to make.
Note: It is very easy to avoid gremlins and identity crises! One need only send MG an email (gnod@gnod.net) and you will be orange'd and your name defaults in the name box. As to my apparent loss of orange in early post -- I had popped in on the fly rather than logging in as I usually do, hence, my colourless appearance. Glad I was able to give you a giggle or two tho, Buddy...
As to the missing pages in Remote Control, one of my favourite one-liners is on page 2:
The senior citizens began getting off the bus. They were typical Brits abroad, the men dressed almost identically: beige flannels, sensible shoes, and a V-neck sweater over a shirt and tie. Most of the women were in polyester slacks with elastic waistbands and a sewn-in crease down the front. They all had flawless, blow-dried, jet black, white, or blue-rinsed hair. They spotted the cafe and started to move as a herd toward us.
Pat muttered, "F*** me, the enemy must be getting desperate. They've sent the Barry Manilow fan club."
So grinning now! I get the biggest kick out of AM's humour! ;o)
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 17 Jun 2003 11:19)
Ooops!
Lynn, I meant Buddy's post was the 6th post on page 40 (not pg 6)! Brain glitch!
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 17 Jun 2003 11:22)
Yes, I was talking about that too. So I asked: why ask about Italy, as being mentioned in Dark Winter? Where was it mentioned? Did Buddy just say that because Boris did the imaginary grand tour or did you turn from being AM to your usual AIB and is Boris AM now?
I ate sugarbread - maybe too much sugar has same effect as
the tulips ??
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 17 Jun 2003 15:09)
Am-I-Binned: great one-liner...
Not a one-liner, but oh so funny in Crisis Four - jungle terrain:
-------
About four hours later they came back to us and said, 'OP any track.'
What the fuck did they mean, OP any track? What good would that do us? We asked, 'What track?'
They came back, 'OP any track that runs west to east.'
They had to be mad. We sent back, 'We can't find one running west to east. However, we've found one running east to west and we're going to OP that one.'
All we got back was, 'East-west is good, out.' Either they were taking the piss, or the world's most useless officer was manning the desk that night. We never found out which. But you never do.
-------
Casting aside the initial order: 'OP any track.' and response from men on the ground...What's the difference between a "west to east track" and "east to west track" ?
Re: Dark Winter & Boris' Italian tour guide triggered a memory flash, but the Italian link to DW was, on reflection, more to do with interesting e-mail correspondence from Mark Lucas (AM's lit agent) in which he made a comment about Pride & Prejudice (too long to explain what he meant).
As I've said before, pose a controversial subject and you can bet someone will rise to the occasion and say more than intended in the heat of the moment....
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 17 Jun 2003 15:21)
Oh my lord, Buddy -- YES! I had forgotten about the "east-west" one! Got me laughing again just reading it here!!! And I think I find it even funnier because it's one of those tidbits that I definitely see as AM's merging of non-fiction into fiction!
Sugarbread, eh? Wanna share your recipe, Lynn? (Of late, I been sortta regrettin' diggin' up all them tulips...think we coulda been puttin' 'em to good use.) Or maybe I should post the Amish friendship bread chain-recipe -- keep 1/5th of the starter batter for yourself and give the other 4/5ths to friends who, in turn, keep 1/5th of the batter and give to another 4 friends.... ad infinitum.... yum!
Still stuck a bit in Remote Control mode, AM said in an interview:
"All the characters are based on real people: Kev and Slack Pat are former colleagues, and Euan is based on a very close friend who is still in the SAS. The squash court incident did actually happen."
I have a guess as to Euan, but I'm wondering if anyone else has tried to match up characters. If so, wanna compare theories?
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 17 Jun 2003 16:52)
i have an idea for Euan but i dont know about anybody else. Go on AIB you go first who do you think Euan is based on.
>>By christina (Tuesday, 17 Jun 2003 17:44)
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