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>>By scouse (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 03:21)
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>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 03:30)
hi ppl
i agree with Angus D for lynn
i also agree with sarah except she should have darke hair
and i could see robson green kinda being nick
omg i used to listen to robson and jurome (i dunno how to spell it soz) how sad is that ppl
have u decided kelly yet? i think i have an idea for her has anybody seen bless the child (it was rubbish) well the little girl i think could play kelly. i ave just remembered her name 'angela bettis i dont know if she could play her now though cause the film came out yrs ago its just me being slow again ppl
>>By chrissy (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 10:10)
hi
thanx for the chris ryan suggestions i think im just gunna start at the begining (which book is that?)
Re AIB: i know which passage u mean it clicked after i posted the message. slow me !!!!!!!!!!! and thanx for the pic of natacsha i really dint know who she was !!
>>By chrissy (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 10:16)
Nah, Sarah is still Bridget Moynahan for me,
check her out:
http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hc&id=1800361306&cf=pg&photoid=432649&intl=us
Robson Green.... don't know about Nick but definitely tasty.
I'm not concentration on who to play Lynn - too confusing.
Would Kelly be 7 in the movie or would they make her older??
Hi Paul R, nice to see you back.
Boris good luck with your exams - for what?
Hoar'y if you keep missing our appointments I'm afraid counselling won't help you no more.
Lynn
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 12:01)
Hi Chrissy,
Stand by, Stand by was the first Chris Ryan book (fiction). It's a good read with a brilliant ending (don't worry, no spoiler from me!)
Kremlin Device (think its 2nd in line) was my fave though. I actually read this before Stand by Stand by, and thought it was excellent. I'd definately reccomend these two. Although I prefer McNab's writing, and Nick Stone to Geordie Sharp, Ryan does have a great knack of twisting the plot when you're least expecting it.
I'm going to see the new Matrix film at the weekend, so decided to rent the first one on DVD - EUREKA!
CF could do worse than hire two of the stars. Laurence Fishburne (spellcheck) as long as he keeps his bald head IS Josh - no question. And the woman with the dark hair (sorry, can't remember her name but I believe someone posted it ages ago) is Sarah - although again, not as attractive as AM describes her - but it is Hollywood ;-)
Sorry a-i-b, our first disagreement! ROBSON GREEN? NO WAY! You've poisoned my image of Nick Stone forever ! LOL!! Although he could play Geordie Sharp if ever they filmed Ryan's books.
For the non-brits, Green is a Geordie himself - a person from Newcastle (North-East England) just as our friend Scouse is (I presume!) a scouser - a person from Liverpool (North-West England)
However, I would presume Ryan would play it himself as he acted quite well in Ultimate Force (ITV1). As mentioned before, how about Chris Ryan playing Nick Stone? (big tongue in cheek!)
I haven't actually seen anyone that could really match the image I have of Nick, although I think my favourites are as mentioned before, Jude Law or Jason Statham. One of the Kemp brothers could give it a go (Spandeau Ballet/The Krays) Having said all that, Hollywood will probably cast Denzel Washington as Nick and J-Lo as Sarah. Wayne Sleep for Metal Mickey?
>>By Sheba (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 12:02)
Tu, May 27 (6:15am) US
Hallo All,
No probs with anybody else playing NS (well, except Brad), I can be flexible (yeah, like I have any influence anyway!). And my choice may shift yet again tomorrow! But, oh my, do like Robson regardless....
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 12:18)
RE deletion of article posted on behalf of Mike Coburn.
I support Mike Coburn's bid to publish, too, but there are ways and means of doing that...
It was said by Andy McNab, that three years after the first Gulf War, like the hero he created in his novels, McNab left the Army. He soon followed in the footsteps of many of his former colleagues by turning to a job in private security. He and four other survivors of the aborted Bravo Two Zero saga – the much publicized disaster which occurred behind enemy lines in Iraq – were invited to a Christmas dinner by Peter de la Billière.
General Sir Peter de la Billière – senior British commander in the coalition forces – had toyed with writing a book about the ill-fated B20 mission, according to McNab, but de la Billière's book was a memoir not one solely about B20. Meantime McNab thought he would write an account of the B20 mission himself. When B20 hit the bookstands it got right up the nose of his former immediate in command, Peter Ratcliffe RSM, who then wrote his own version of B20 and the Gulf War in "Eye of the Storm". Ratcliffe's account of the B20 mission differed markedly from that of McNab's. Several years later "The real Bravo Two Zero" emerges as the true story about the B20 mission, as written by Asher, compliments the MoD.
John Nichol, the author of "Tornado Down" and fellow British POW in Gulf War I, revealed how McNab approached him and asked how to acquire a book deal with a publisher. Nichol, gentleman that he is, put McNab in touch with the agent, Mark Lucas. John Nichol is a deeply sincere person, and loves nothing better than walking his dog and exploring quiet country byways and meandering coastal paths. He appears as a guest from time to time on television programmes that appeal to his way of life.
McNab claims his books are vetted by the MoD, he's also adamant that he never criticises military high command in his books, and says he has not contradicted accusations of a one time comrade's account of the B20 mission, but Mike Coburn's version (Soldier5) has yet to be published, if ever. The MoD spent millions of taxpayers money to prevent publication of Soldier 5. The big question: "Why ban Soldier 5 if the world already knows what happened to the Bravo Two Zero mission, gratis McNab & Ryan?" Apparently a lot of people are asking that very question, inclusive many SAS and ex SAS colleagues and supporters of Mike (Mark the Kiwi) Coburn.
Due to McNab's and Ryan's success with books about B20 and a spate of attempted publications by MI5 and MI6 agents, a secret select committee was hastily set up in Whitehall to appraise books written by non-commissioned military personnel and for those working for intelligence directives. Publishers were known to hit panic buttons with many refusing to consider any book that had an SAS slant at the time, which probably accounts for why some bestselling ex military authors are less prevalent and appear to be extinct in todays bookstores. It is also a known fact the MoD presented a secrecy directive to be signed by all special forces personnel, and that Mike Coburn's book received the thumbs down treatment due to his having signed said document.
Who sits on any Whitehall committee is leaked, eventually, and it is likely that one or two persons will have already resigned from the MoD committee. After all, a secret is only a secret if no one else knows about it, but when every one knows it becomes a government related embarrassment. Whether Andy McNab sits or has sat on that MoD committee is a matter for pure speculation, for there has been no press statement from the McNab camp to say yes or no to the question now being asked by so many of his ex colleagues. On the basis that Asher's "The Real Bravo two Zero" was published compliments of the MoD same as Ratcliffe's "Eye of the Storm", one has to wonder when McNab served (if ever) on the secret committee, or were those books published over his head?
>>By Rachel (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 12:29)
Literary News: my article so no problem with copyright.
Anecdotal McNab who apparently wrote a proposal of B20 in third person narrative but didn't much like the result of his painstaking efforts, and when advised by his literary agent to rewrite in first person narrative as though recalling a story to a group of friends he followed through with a bestseller. This way of writing was for him much easier than he ever thought possible, and his experience of military debriefings and presentations proved invaluable as a disciplinary measure in recaption of events that happened some three years previous. Despite his efforts his literary agent wanted more. Mark Lucas wanted to eat, breathe, and taste every nuance of sight and sounds experienced by McNab during that ill-fated mission.
Mark Lucas had already decided his protégé would produce two non-fiction books. His decision proved to be beneficial and established a solid readership. Almost 50% of readers are women, acording to Lucas, though there is no way to substantiate that claim, which has purportedly surprised and delighted McNab. A plethora of SAS books in the 1990s reached a sales and marketing high-point, (according to Lucas) then began to totter, but McNab has continued to retain favourable sales with his thrillers based on his now famous character, Nick Stone.
McNab apparently prepares story lines in his own unique way, and admits books were not his medium of childhood entertainment. In fact he claims to have been weaned on Jackanory and Thunderbirds, and this visionary aspect from childhood apparently aids him when "telling" his story to a tape recorder (according to McNab) before transcribing the end product. Needless to say, from the picking of locks and just about anything that a professional criminal can achieve McNab's Nick stone will match, inclusive of firing a gun to kill when engaged on undeniable operations.
The old saying "it takes a thief to catch a thief" is not so far from the truth when it comes to secret servicemen engaged on counter surveillance and the catching of and "taking out" of loose cannons or enemy factions. One wonders how long before Nick Stone will be on the run from the very people he's ended up working for? After all, what goes around comes around, and there's always another looking to "slot" your job.
>>By Rachel (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 13:15)
hey ppl
i think wayne Sleep would make a great metal mickey!! they are so alike!
and i agree with lynn on sarah she looks the closest to how i imagined her !!
who is laurence fishburne??
>>By chrissy (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 13:20)
I trust the articles are informative and not too much to absorb in one sitting.
Please don't book Robson Green to play Nick Stone.
>>By Rachel (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 13:20)
hi
i forgot to say boris good luck on exams
i ave exams cumin up aswell know how ya feel
i think robson could kinda play nick i cant think of enybody else
>>By chrissy (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 13:23)
Rachel, if Mike Curtis did sign the agreement and wants to publish anyway, shouldn't MOD not try everything to prevend that? If there's a court in Mike's favor, wouldn't that mean anyone else who has signed the agreement can rip it up and start publishing their books?
I would definitely read Soldier 5 if published and I have no problem Mike earning some money with his book.
But if he and all the others signed...... I can understand it's going to be handled in court.
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 13:25)
did anybody watch the eurovision song contest i dint but im glad i dint cause i dint get any points at all.
has anybody picked a kelly yet or a nick ?(well a better one than RG)
>>By chrissy (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 13:28)
i hope soldeir 5 does get published though cause it would be a good read
>>By chrissy (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 13:30)
To be quite frank, Lynn, given the choice put before men serving in the regiment (after having dedicated oneself to the SAS) it must have come as a bit of a shock to be suddenly told "sign contract or quit!"
It would have been irresponsible to quit any military service (family man with reponsibilities) and no surety of job in civvy street awaiting him.
How would you like it if your husband walked through the door and said: "We'll have no paycheck in the bank for next month, I've quit my job because I didn't want to sign a contract of employment shoved under my nose today, one that I had to sign or quit over. I chose the latter."
I also think it is extremely unfair of people to endeavour to post the true identities of ex SAS or serving men, don't you?
>>By Rachel (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 14:55)
hey rachel i agree with what u said about to posting the true identities of ex SAS or serving men
>>By chrissy (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:25)
Rachel, I'd say to my partner (friend-girlfiend-fiancee-husband) it's all up to you, we'll manage, follow your heart.
If he/she is that responsible not wanting to quit his/her job he/she would have to give up the idea of writing a book.
I'm not saying it's a good deal but I don't like having an increase of my car insurance payments because there's an increase in car thefts either.
I’d have to take it or give up insurance or sell my car.
Fighting it would probably mean I'd be on every insurence company's black list.
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 15:47)
Hey, Sheba...
You share AM's math skills -- that's our second disagreement, but then who's counting? ;o)
Dawned on me this morning -- knowing the way Hollyweird works, we've been thinking way too conservative! Watch it end up being Arnie (I'll-be-back) for Nick, J-Lo as Sarah, Eddie Murphy for Josh, Sean Connery as Lynn, Robin Williams for Metal Mickey, and Haley Joel Osment as Kelly. Okay, okay, so a tiny bit of rewriting will be required, but what the heck! -- when Hollyweird's involved, no story line is sacred, right?
VBG, VBW
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 16:35)
hey its chrissy (changed my name to chris if that is ok)
hey AIB i soooo hope its not those ppl u just said that would be a nightmare i think i might just scream. Do u know if they are oing to make any of the other books into films or are they just going to stop at CF?
>>By chris (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 17:00)
Lynn, your ethos on full-time employment preventing the writing of a novel airs toward thin ice, being that Members of the United Kingdom Parliament write books in their spare time instead of attending clinics in their home constituencies! They are paid to debate and govern but choose to write novels during working hours. Lucky for some!!
It's all very well to say follow your heart, but someone has to put bread on the table! Would you give to a beggar on the street?
>>By Rachel (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 17:00)
ok soz should have going not oing
>>By chris (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 17:00)
Hey, Chris... (btw, why change names now?)
Your guess is as good as mine... good grief, we can't even determine if CF will or is being made, let alone future ones...
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 17:08)
As for car insurance, it's relevant to price. If you can afford a car you can afford the insurance, if you can't afford the insurance you can't really afford the car.
Bet Andy Mcnab has several motors, same here, nothing like a backup vehicle even though one may have a timeless favourite.
Has anyone seen the new guy in Eastenders, a programme I rarely watched until one episode in which he wallked centre stage - young Dennis Watts. Prime candidate for Nick Stone.
>>By Rachel (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 17:13)
Rachel and Lynn:
For what it's worth, I see validity in both your positions on the Confidentiality Agreement in a qualified way. For those in the Regiment prior to 1996, like Mike Coburn and Mal (Stan), and even Dinger (who's still active I understand), I do think the CA is unfair. For those who entered the Regiment after 1996, it is different because they would have entered already knowing that they would be required to sign the CA. Those in the Regiment prior to the instatement of the CA had the rules changed on them mid-game with the threat of being RTU'd or out completely if they did not sign (the argument presented in Mike's case, that he was forced to sign, a matter of coercion/duress). But worse than that, some were able to selectively and blatantly skate around the CA -- as demonstrated oh-so-well by Ratcliffe! The transcripts of the BBC/Panorama program make that favoritism and disparity disgustingly clear.
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 17:26)
Hey girls,
I think that this agreement question is a non-problem. In special forces secret is THE word, it's always been. After the raising of SAS writing it seems that army/gvt want to protect themselves a little bit more... Where's the problem?
'Sign contract or quit' that's what everyone does in every job. You can't choose to fulfil some tasks and to refuse others.
I'm sure that the guys who are over there right now think more about their job than about show business.
>>By Alice (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 17:27)
i changed my name cause ppl call me chris and me being slow i got confused with chrissy
>>By chris (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 17:34)
hey rachel i dont usually watch eastenders all that much but i know who u are on about and agree wiv ya there
hey AIB i can see y they can start at CF intsead because they could make nick explain to sarah how he came across kelly because nothing else hapens in RC does it? or they could miss her out completly cause she isnt a main charachter in that book really is she but i still think remote control is film material
Soz if anybody hasn't read RC yet if u havent get ur finger out and start reading
>>By chris (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 17:44)
Hi, Chris...
You might want to think about using the gnod login feature. You'll not only see posting timestamps but your name will automatically be inserted with your posts in orange. And that way you're telling everybody you are who you say you are. Neat option, huh?
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 17:47)
Re AIB Neat option: how do u do that then
>>By chris (Tuesday, 27 May 2003 17:55)
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