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>>By christina (Monday, 29 Sep 2003 20:46)
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>>By Always Surfin (Monday, 29 Sep 2003 21:51)
Sorry about stirring up a hornest's enst, but I had to throw a flashbang into the ops-room.
Haven't got much time to share my profound and deep thoughts, so I've decided that if I can't stop by that much, I'll stop by with a bang the times I *do* pop by. :)
(Hah-hah... poor excuse, but I am excusable. Anyone in here who are math-wizards?)
Got my Asics runners ready never-the-less. Just in case...
You know the saying; nothing is compared to the wrath of a woman scorn (or something to that effect).
>>By ortlieb (Monday, 29 Sep 2003 23:23)
"Hell hath no fury..."
Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned,
Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned.
William Congreve (1670 - 1729), The Mourning Bride, 1697, Act III Scene 8
We shall find no fiend in hell can match the fury of a disappointed woman,—scorned, slighted, dismissed without a parting pang.
Colley Cibber (1671 - 1757), Love's Last Shift, Act 2
Hmmm... I dunno, Ortlieb -- brave, very brave! vbw! vbg!
>>By am-i-binned (Monday, 29 Sep 2003 23:57)
Hi Buddy,
"Sorry shanti941: take umbrage if you will...You said you thought CR was a crap writer and I chose to differ...What made you think the Enid Blyton comment was a reflection on your introduction?...However, we were in agreement on the Bond films being crap!!"
LOL, nope didn't take umbrage (good word tho') - I didn't think the Enid one was for me, that why I was confused! I'm often confused these days...
Got to say, the real Bond - ie in the books, is a bit - not a lot,but a BIT more realistic - he gets torured, passes out, loses his bottle and has to get sent away for rehab.
The shiny creation of Hollywood is naff and non-Bond-ish, and I agree if the people who brought us Die Hard (which is a good film but 0 out of 10 for realism) get hold of Nick S he's got bigger worries than a hole in his clingfilm....
Re the whole chicks wanting them thing, I work doing healing stuff, crystals and so on, and I'm reasonably concerned about the environment.... and thus I have a subconscious desire to BE Nick Stone, which I will freely own up to! :-)
Life's so simple when your philosophy is "there's not much that can't be solved with a few blows from a 3lb hammer" (pardon the paraphrasing).
Everyone has a shadow side, and in the end we all work in the world according to our temperament, as best we can.
I just think being able to run around the jungle blowing shit up would sometimes be more fun than nursing people through their chilhood traumas, and balancing their auras with quartz.... but not for long!
Er, does any of that make sense?! :-)
xS
>>By shanti941 (Tuesday, 30 Sep 2003 02:43)
" he's got bigger worries than a hole in his clingfilm...." LOL!!!
I don't even want to think about this haha!!
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 30 Sep 2003 09:55)
Join the confusion club, Shanti, everyone here is somewhat confused!!! It goes with the territory of why people end up on message boards...After all, what has gravy-train queues to do with the mystical qualities of healing and crystals, unless your profile and or last statement has fictional quality!
Ask yourself: What it is that draws people to fictional characters - the discussing of, given the reality that most everyone here seemingly needs to associate NS "wholly" with AM...Is he really portraying NS as himself, or has he led you from reality into fiction with the skill of an undercover operative?! That he's not necessarily writing about his own achievements, that he is in fact exploring a part of himself and others that he's never looked into before.
Who sets up the stage here? Who works the curtain? Who prompts the actors when the main thread is lost? Do we take the stage here, our (own) script in tact, our mindset clear from outside influence? No, of course we don't.
So, tell me, why would you be confused by Enid Blyton comment, being that you didn't take it as aimed at you, yet responded to it as though taken personal like? I do try not to use words that require a dictionary for those whose first language is not English, but on occasion words like umbrage do surface in the natural flow of writing...
I'm intrigued by this shadow-side and every one having such, could you clarify that (break it down). Yeah, 3lb hammers are excellent for ramming staples into wooden posts - keeps the wire nice and taught...
Blowing up things is not exactly environmentally friendly, the fallout far more devastating!!!!!
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 30 Sep 2003 10:07)
I'm a bloke!
>>By RobbieBoy (Tuesday, 30 Sep 2003 12:28)
Nice to see you here, RobbieBoy...Just browsing, huh?
I don't think a "SPOILER WARNING" is necessary for this post, merely a paragraph snatched from LD.
I love this paragraph from Liberation Day:
...A few of the women had to be Italians. They didn't so much walk as glide in their minks, but maybe they were simply steering clear of the poodle shit. Everyone in Cannes seemed to own one of the heavily coiffed little shitters, and trotted them along on their fancy leads, or looked on lovingly as they did a dump in the middle of the pavement. I'd already had to scrape three loads off my Timberlands since arriving, and had now become a bit of an expert at the Cannes Shuffle, dodging and weaving as I walked...
It warmed my heart to see AM's home-country slant of "pavement" instead of sidewalk, and does anyone else get a sense of need for the Cannes Shuffle around here from time to time? Does anyone think AM is saying a hell of a lot more about what he is actually describing?
Here's a classic from The Janson Directive (Ludlum):
Janson knew what an expert in psychological profiling would make of his dossier: the early history of betrayal and brutality that he had suffered. How deep did the the trauma go, and could it be rekindled? His employers never referred to the possibility, but he could see it in their eyes; the personality inventory tests that he had underwent - The Myers Briggs, the Thermatic Apperception Test, the Aristos Personality Profile - were designed to ferret out any hairline fissures his psyche might have developed. Violence is something you're very, very good at: Collins's arctic assessment. It was what made him invaluable to his employers, but it was also why the top-level planners harbored a lingering wariness toward him. So long as he remained, like a fix-mounted heavy artillery, directed toward the enemy, he could be a godsend; but if he were ever to turn against the men who had trained him, the planners who used him, he could prove a nemesis like no other...
Can anyone see a marked relation to AM in Janson's psychological profile?
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 30 Sep 2003 12:55)
"Does anyone think AM is saying a hell of a lot more about what he is actually describing?... Can anyone see a marked relation to AM in Janson's psychological profile?" .... "Join the confusion club, everyone here is somewhat confused!!!"
There is absolutely no question that we do "think this" and we do "see this" -- there is absolutely no confusion whatsoever in "this" -- "this" is EXACTLY why we are here.... all 83-and-counting worth's of us.... :o)
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 30 Sep 2003 13:11)
First I'd say Andy doesn't like lap-dogs.. ;o)
Further I'm reading that in a wealthy environment he will always feel awkward - no matter how much money he made - he'll always be the little guy from a working-class neighbourhood - no armani suit will get that out of him.
But I could be wrong.
What do you read Buddy and what's the connection with that other part (Janson) ?
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 30 Sep 2003 13:33)
We must be pushing 84, the engine steaming away right now...
There's lap-dogs and lapdogs, Lynn, ha ha...Nevertheless, bet he's got a few favourites who've left poop on his Timberlands (whatever), and one or two he keened to boot...And you got it, ring ring, you hit that staple home good and true, no Armani confusion with you today...
I'll leave the Janson part to sweat awhile, feel sure someone will have something to add/subtract...
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 30 Sep 2003 13:51)
There's also lapdance, given the choice between Miss Fluffy and Miss Foxy...
I know.. I know.. completely wandered off.. No no, it's not the tulips, it's pure boredom
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 30 Sep 2003 14:14)
Okay Buddy, you've got me running scared, that's too much thinking for one day it's a case of out of the frying pan into the fire, I'm not even going to go there. I don't see AM as a lean green killing machine (okay maybe not green but it rhymes well!), I think that really he's a big girls blouse who's scared of spiders and women ha ha.
One thought though, if hell hath no fury like a woman scorned why don't the regiment have a sister force of all the bitter ex-wives out there?
>>By Bethan (Tuesday, 30 Sep 2003 15:55)
Bethan, a few publishers (tabloid press included) tried to enlist ex SAS wives of the celeb variety, but only one or two were willing to bite off the head of those that had once fed and clothed them with sweat and military toil, the others too scared!!
As far ex SAS (SFs) personnel go (AM included) a lot of the wives/girlfriends/whatever weren't scorned, it was they who walked to more pleasing beds, and of those that were scorned many looked to the ethos of "good riddance to bad rubbish"!!! It's not that unusual for military wives "left at home" to see greener grass beyond the fence of the marital enclosure - that nine-to-five men suddenly look more appealing...
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 30 Sep 2003 16:15)
giggle giggle.. nice one Bethan. You might just have the answer to the ever sought super-Army..
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 30 Sep 2003 16:15)
sorry Buddy, cross-posted. I understand what you mean with the women but still... in general..an army of scorned women... I have a vivid imagination and I can see how it would look...
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 30 Sep 2003 16:18)
Bethan:
Because they'd be scratching each others eyes out before they had come to decide whether to use the green cam-cream or the black one.
Perhaps they already tried it, but Frances Nicholson wasn't up to the task of running the troop?
As amused as I might be, I just have to say: Uh-oh.... I'd better pop off some smoke and initiate a contact-drill.... ;)
>>By ortlieb (Tuesday, 30 Sep 2003 16:20)
Hey Lynn, jeez, Boudica: god forbid...
Ortlieb: now come on, smoke screens don't work with women, they see right through them...I think a touch of green cam highlighted with black would see the troop looking sharp-eyed, don't you...For the right guy, women can spruce in the time it takes him to park the car, pluck up the courage to knock on the door, and finally take that first step...
Bethan, FN was too scared of AM's lawyer, but had the kid to hide behind...
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 30 Sep 2003 16:30)
What about Aethelflaed then?
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 30 Sep 2003 16:49)
Ah, the Lady of Mercia...
Reckon I'm following her ethos - caught myself a 6' 2" Viking ten years my junior, and Wales captured my imagination...The over 40 guys don't have all the fun...
And BTW: men don't always have to be dead to render their wives widows of the SAS...
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 30 Sep 2003 17:23)
You guys (I'm sensing a predominant percentage of females in here for the time being) have the capasity to perform several tasks at once (I don't remember the term).
We guys don't, so it's a wonder we've accomplished anything at all....
>>By ortlieb (Tuesday, 30 Sep 2003 18:08)
Do you know that I (daftly) thought that the Flork thing was for - well I forgot that it wasnt just for this forum, so when I modify my profile to say I am an SAS commando, I forget that other people see that so I have had loads of people asking about it. hee hee giggle.
Only those that have the code though will get through...
6...........
anyone without the correct answer will be annihalated.
>>By Pomplemous (Tuesday, 30 Sep 2003 18:29)
Hey Pompy, nice pics you got there.
Who are the 2 blokes though?
>>By borisette (Tuesday, 30 Sep 2003 20:55)
re:ortlieb
you mean multitasking? or simultaneously? darn... trying to find out while writing, and watching tv... gotta turn that stove off also, or my fish and rice (yes rice not chips) will fry.. Hang on, on the phone...
well, it really seems it's sort of impossible... but then again, women must have been created for a reason... perhaps that's the answer to that mystery...
and last time i checked, i was still a guy... yes... still am...
happy october to all of you, anyone going to germany to drink beer?
>>By trident (Tuesday, 30 Sep 2003 23:10)
Pompy????? grrr - um - the black and white bloke is my boyfriend and the two blokes with heads together is a scene from Das Boot - my favourite ever ever film - and they are lovely lads. sigh.
my contact is coming in today - let's see what gem he delivers today.
for now: a poo joke then work
What's E.T. short for...?
Cos he's got little legs
Ahhhhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaa
sigh. You didnt like that did you? What do you know!
>>By Pomplemous (Wednesday, 1 Oct 2003 09:52)
Cor, yeah Trident - al that festive lederhausen and bum/knee slapping, laughter, glasses banging on tables, beer swilling down the aisles...A real ball...
What, no chips? Guess you hate exercise, or do you keep slim dashing from one thought to the next on gauging next vital move...
Women created for a reason? Ah, another believer in god in man's image/ man in god's image...Read The Da Vinci Code...
>>By buddy (Wednesday, 1 Oct 2003 09:58)
Oh Buddy, you misunderstood me I'm not talking about just regiment ex-wives but all of them. Judging by the weird and wonderful revenge tactics most women come up with the whole of mankind would quake in his boots.
>>By Bethan (Wednesday, 1 Oct 2003 10:28)
Hiding behind things is always the best way - not many people are brave enough to stand up and take the flack. I feel sort of sorry for Frances Nicholson, I can understand why she wrote her book (if he can, why can't I) but then again write a book with a storyline. Her biggest mistake was going for the sympathy vote - daft. When the man you're writing about has won the hearts of the nation as "gulf war hero" you don't stand much chance of denting his halo. Am I odd but I would be horrified if my Mum dedicated a book about sex with my Dad to me!!!
>>By Bethan (Wednesday, 1 Oct 2003 10:39)
I guess, Bethan, I was seeing the divorce issue from an ex SAS wife's/widow's perspective - the majority of SF wives do the walking away or get through traumas with little or no outside help. When you live with men who've become desensitised it tends to brush off...The majority of wives become immune to hurt, have no need for revenge, in that they have become strong in a similar way to their men - can take it or leave it, in fact, can be as voracious in bed and think nothing of it, and of those who see their men through to retirement they're often the stronger partner in the end...
I would say, in FN's case, she was stunned by her own inability (very pretty young lady) to tame, what was, essentially, a wild spirit...She was blinded by good-looks, daring-do, as to what her life would become...So many young girlfriends/brides of SF men have no real idea of what they are walking into...
No, you're not odd: book "I had sex with daddy" dedicated to child...Maybe that says more about FN and need to prove to the world that she'd actually had sex with Andy McNab, even if it was only once in a blue moon, and, that it was his nipper...I mean rumours were rife during the late eighties (SAS) years: SAS wives and clandestine affairs - when one lot were away on ops another lot (single boys/married too) were doing the rounds, and of course, local mechanics/tyre fitters...
Did you read her book (see the pics)? She's 6', beautiful, AM taller, or didn't you notice that in the wedding shots, can't imagine he was wearing cowboy boots on his wedding day? Yet, Nick Stone is portrayed as less than 6'...
>>By buddy (Wednesday, 1 Oct 2003 11:58)
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