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and search for "SAS Soldier" or "Soldier SAS", you'll find some of the books I'm asking about....
>>By am-i-binned (Thursday, 14 Aug 2003 18:28)
No prob, AIB ;)
I'm always interested in other people's opinions.
Thanks for your info about Mars.
I'll have a look.
I also heard that this month there will be a lot of meteor showers, so there will be lots to see in the sky at night.
>>By Lethe (Thursday, 14 Aug 2003 23:40)
No probs back atcha, Lethe.
Meteor showers are always a bit frustrating for me since I live in an urban area so the skies are never dark enough for optimal viewing. Ah, would that I had a nice little country cottage somewhere in the middle of nowhere... :o)
Pe Gasus?
Are you with us quietly on the sidelines? (hope so!) Have you read any of the Soldier A, B, C books?
>>By am-i-binned (Thursday, 14 Aug 2003 23:55)
Calling all MIA's....
Asking for Pe Gasus got me thinking that I'd like to ask a favor -- could we have a voluntary roll-call? Many are quiet right now because of school, work, and/or personal situations, but there are many others who have been inexplicably silent for quite a while (very sad sigh!). If you are still here but just silently lurking, would you please post a little note or send a flork message? :o)
(Note: Just in case you are silent because you don't want to register with Flork, I can offer [email4gnooks@aol.com] as an alternative. But if anonymity is an issue for you, the truth is that Flork not only preserves your anonymity completely, it also allows you to offboard privately.)
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 15 Aug 2003 01:06)
I was just reading the article about the Ex-SAS man facing execution in Kabul. Thanks for the link AIB. The article did leave me with lots of questions, and several points to make.
1) From the way it's written, the story is emotionally manipulative. I don't mind that from fictional accounts, but I don't like it when it is related to journalism and the supposed non-fictional telling of a serious story. It diminishes it's credibility, from my point of view.
2) A lot of the facts are presented in a very misleading manner. For instance, several quotes from the article imply Colin was doing intelligence work for the British. If the first sentence below is read carefully, it implies that the military service and the "secret work" done that is praised by the Afghan Chief of Intelligence are connected. The other sentence tries to imply that Colin is involved in the information contained in the dossier, even though the sentence doesn't actually use his name in connection with the dossier. This is very bad journalism as it doesn't clearly establish fact. It establishes innuendo and supposition. True, it's all on the part of the reader, but that doesn't excuse poor writing in a story about such a serious matter as a man's life.
>>The Daily Mirror has seen a signed and stamped letter from the Afghan chief of intelligence Commander Zubira praising Colin's secret work, along with documents verifying his military service for the UK.
We have seen another dossier containing a message to a British intelligence contact giving names and locations of weapons handed over to the Americans, including anti-tank missiles and surface-to-air missiles.<<
There are many such misleading statements in the story.
3) Colin's story about the American soldiers coming in sounds very fishy to me. If he's an SAS operative, he's not too good at his job. Two American operatives come in and argue with him. Afghani's break in and start to shoot and the American's are idiots.... why? Because they shot back? His gun was used in the gunfight,..... but not by him? Who got hold of it and why didn't he use it? Then four more Americans break in.... and this must have a pretty large room or flat!
4) He claims to have been recruited by the Afghan government, and he was working for MI6 and Customs and Excise, and he was helping the Americans- supposedly for the CIA- buy back weapons. This is one busy guy with quite a few paychecks.... especially since he is also a partner of his own business.
5) Isn't it nice to be able to blame someone else for screwing up an op, shooting other people up with an innocent man's gun, getting the aforesaid "innocent man" shot, panicking and leaving "IM" in the lurch, telling the "IM" to cover up for them and promising to come back for the "IM". Forget the fact that if all of this were true, what kind of f***ing idiot would believe them at this point and go along with their messed up plan that leaves the "Innocent Man" holding the "bag of pooh" and in the hands of the enemy?
6) And if all of my misgivings about Colin's story are wrong and his story is true, he might want to remember what AM says... those that live by the sword, die by the sword.
Or... Life sucks and then you die. Yes, men are left behind. It isn't nice or easy, but it happens. The thing is, it usually only happens when absolutely necessary. Colin is too big a loose end and embarrassment to leave hanging about. It makes absolutely NO sense to leave him behind when it would have been easier to take him along and clear the area of just such an embarrassing loose end. His story makes no sense. And if he is a K agent, his security blanket stinks.
Anyway.... those are my two cents worth.
>>By Dare (Friday, 15 Aug 2003 01:33)
I've ordered the UK versions of AM's books. Are they very different? I'm reading LL again and realized another thing I like about AM's writing is how he uses pop culture to keep things immediate and in the proper time frame.
And it's interesting that Nick doesn't recognize the post-traumatic stress disorder that Kelly's suffering from and what he's going through are the same thing.
>>By Dare (Friday, 15 Aug 2003 05:19)
Oooh, Dare, your comments about Colin Berry's situation are worth far more than two cents! I agree with some of your points, but I’m less sceptical on others. Maybe I’ve read too many thrillers and tend to see such things through “conspiracy” eyes – where nothing is as it seems and there are more questions than answers.
I agree with you about the story being “emotionally manipulative" – and, in truth, heartless as it sounds, I did not really pay much attention to the up-close-and-personal angle where they quoted his wife – that was way too "National Enquirer" (US version of News of the World) for me.
I agree, too, that the dossiers sited are misleading but, then again, I wonder what specifics the journalist was actually privy to in the first place, let alone what specifics could have been safely printed.
As to the general circumstances, however, I am actually heavily influenced by Crisis Four, considering things like the US secretly buying back the CIA-supplied arms from the Afghan commanders, the US/UK collaboration on deniable false-flagged ops, the mention of MI-6 and C&E deniable ops, and Colin being recruited by the Afghan government. Who actually wanted him recruited into such a role? Afghan? Why? Or was that a false-flag? It seems more likely to be the US and the UK -- with the US skirting legalities by having the UK carry out the task, and all the while, both maintain deniability. And especially now, after 9/11, with the Osama bin Laden/Afghan connection, for sure the CIA et al would want to deny or minimize any involvement in the buying back of these arms.
As to the specifics, I can see Colin's story as plausible too, especially if you allow for mistakes being made when people are working undercover.
Colin secured a contract with the Afghan government for sourcing and fitting pre-fab buildings, but he was also “recruited for intelligence work by the Afghan government” to “pass on information about arms and drugs deals.” (Why would a businessman involved in building pre-fab homes have access to such information in the first place?) His partner denied Dax Partnership being a front, but obviously it provided a plausible cover.
“His meticulous research” led to anti-aircraft missiles and Stingers being bought back “from Afghan commanders” (commanders of what/whom?) so they would not fall “into al-Qaeda hands” (who was actually buying back these arms? who was physically paying the money?). This “meticulous research” could be the “message to a British intelligence contact giving names and locations of weapons handed over to the Americans.”
In addition to working for the Afghan government (which could have actually been engineered to be part of his cover), he “was working on an informal basis for MI6 and Customs & Excise on a deniable operation” (so he was definitely going to be denied if the shit hit the fan, which it did).
Suspending imagination for a moment, suppose the right hand doesn’t realize what the left hand is doing?
Colin appeared to be a businessman with a contract to work in Kabul, but he had access to really good, effective insider information on arms trades. How was that possible unless he was working (undercover) with the actual arms dealers? Maybe his cover was so good that he appeared to be a “legitimate arms dealer” instead, working under the guise of being a Brit businessman. Maybe the CIA mistook him for an arms dealer working with the Afghan arms and drugs dealers, not against them, and didn’t realize he was actually their inside information source.
Two American SF soldiers “visit” and argue with Colin, holding him at gunpoint, so he was unarmed. How did they manage to get him at gunpoint? Had they disarmed him? Overpowered him, taking his gun in the process? What kind of “arguing” do you do at gunpoint? What were they arguing with him about? Who or what did they think he was? What did they think he was doing and for whom? They wanted him to “be part of an ambush – but he refused to co-operate.” An ambush of whom? The Afghan commanders selling the arms? Was he refusing to cooperate because it would blow his cover? Did they know or understand his cover, that it could actually be a deeper, more complicated cover, deeper than working for the Afghan government, involving reporting back to MI6 and C&E, and possibly that info being passed on to the US as well?
The ambush – When was the ambush to take place? Who were they going to ambush? Were they actually planning to ambush the two Afghan gunmen, the ones “who were working for both Iranian and Pakistani intelligence”? Did the two Afghan gunmen surprise Colin and the two US SF soldiers by bursting into the room unexpectedly (breaking up the argument)? Why were these two Afghan agents of Iranian and Pakistani intelligence barging into Colin’s room in the first place? Had they gone there to negotiate with a Brit businessman involved in illegal arms trade? Had they become suspicious and entered guns blazing? The two SF call for back up and four more immediately arrive, obviously from nearby. Were they there because they were going to be part of the proposed ambush?
Everything’s obviously gone to rat-shit with only option: get the hell out of there, remove Colin, remove his belongings, remove evidence. Six Landcruisers with more SF and CIA are waiting. Obviously, they’d planned quite an ambush. How big a deal did they expect to go down to need that kind of manpower? What else don’t we know about? Where did the two Afghan gunmen come from? Were there others there for the deal? Did they have the arms with them somewhere in the hotel or in the vicinity? Was this a sizeable deal, different or more significant than previous deals?
Next, assuming that the CIA/SF soldiers had initially been mistaken about Colin, when did they realize their mistake? When did he go from being a suspected arms dealer to being a military/political liability? Why take him to an Italian civilian hospital? How good would the medical care be there? Wouldn’t military facilities provide better care? What could be gained by having Colin receive less than optimum care? Was it possible that they did not want him to receive adequate care? Was there an exposure if Colin were held at the military facilities, a chance that too many others would learn what actually happened? Others who might later substantiate Colin’s version of events?
Why didn’t Colin blow the whistle immediately? Why did he initially cover for the Americans? Well, would a former SAS soldier with an exemplary military record and worked “several classified missions” just open up and blurt all, particularly if he thinks his best chances of getting out of this mess are with the Americans? And isn’t the code, first and foremost, tell no one anything that might jeopardize an op? That would explain Colin’s invented self-defense story.
What I wonder at most, though, is this sentence: “The worst thing is Colin knows who they are and is powerless to act against them.” Why powerless? He’s gotten this much of his story out and if he knows who they are, why doesn’t he disclose that information? He’s facing a death penalty! What could possibly keep him silent now?
What is most tragic, if my assumptions are remotely correct, is that Colin has been tripped up by the code “We take care of our own, we’ll get you out no matter what” and the fact that he was on a deniable op. I don’t think he forgot or didn’t understand that he was on a deniable op. I think he thought the rules had changed when his cover was compromised – that because our side (his side) had compromised him, they owed him, and he believed them when they said they would get him out of the shit into which they’d dropped him. And maybe, in the heat of the moment, they really did intend to come back and help him. But the bitter reality is, when things settled and the cards were laid out on the table, I think the decision was made that Colin is totally expendable after all. Denial is paramount, he is irrelevant – the political agenda is more important than the individual being sacrificed. And, in truth, it is that same cold, disturbing principle behind all such decisions that we keep coming back to whenever we discuss the circumstances and decisions made which resulted in the abandonment and betrayal of B20.
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 15 Aug 2003 08:55)
Hello AIB,
I enjoyed your points. My ex-hubby used to tease me about being extremely trusting and a "Conspiracy theorist". I have NO idea how he reconciled the two, but there you go! :) I am extremely skeptical of media that uses blatant yellow journalism and slanting like they did in that story.
All of the premises you came up with are plausible.... IF the article is taken as accurate information and then supposition is piled on top. What information we have is poorly documented by the press, such as vague innuendo about these documents which basically come down to hearsay. "We've seen documents....?" These documents could be anything, from any time or source, covering any and all sorts of engagements. Journalists lie and mislead everyday by using technicalities such as that to support stories they can't otherwise prove or substantiate.
And the rest of the story is Colin's wife and her emotional turmoil or Colin's claims as to what happened. If Colin's story were as compelling as the writer of the article would lead us to believe, the emotional blather wouldn't be necessary. In fact, it would distract from the telling of the facts of the story and getting the attention of the people in the heirarchy who need to make the decision to help Colin. Using the wife at this stage of the game, leads me to believe the story and facts behind it are weak, but the writer thinks getting the public behind the story will accomplish more by stoking the furnace of public opinion. Especially good when the "bad, rotten Americans" can be blamed for the whole problem.
The claims are contradictory and he truly comes across as incompetent if things went down the way he claims they did. I think he told the truth at first because he was in shock and couldn't think fast enough to come up with a plausible lie. When things got hairy, that's seems to be when his story changed.
That sentence you have trouble with.... “The worst thing is Colin knows who they are and is powerless to act against them.” Sounds to me as if that means, "If I can baffle them with bull**** long enough and muddy up the water, maybe I can get one or the other side to get me out of this mess just to shut me up." It sounds to me as if he's read alot of AM and those other guys who've written about similar happenings.
All of the claims are easy to make, but alot of the scenarios that back him up mean we have to believe everything he says without a single bit of compelling evidence. The "evidence" presented in that story doesn't compel me to believe Colin. The chain of logic doesn't support his story without alot of embroidery on my part and I'm highly skeptical of anyone who claims to be a victim the way they are painting Colin.
>>By Dare (Friday, 15 Aug 2003 20:00)
While we are on the subject of conspiracies, terrorists, incompetent electrical company employees, freak lightening strikes and other nifty stuff... what is everyone's take on the blackout in the northeast US and southeast Canada? Or if you aren't interested in spinning tales of conspiracy, how about .... Where were you when the lights went out? :)
I was in Texas surfing the internet when I found out about it. :P Not even slightly interesting. :) The scenario that really worries me (and should seriously worry anyone living up there, IMHO) is the one about the lightening strike. That must have been one GIGUMBOUS strike to affect how many thousand square miles? in two countries. I didn't realize we shared our power grids with Canada. That's right neighborly! ;)
>>By Dare (Friday, 15 Aug 2003 20:11)
I have to agree with your excellent points, Dare. Guess I did sort of forget to consider the source while zealously embroidering away, huh? One thing I am wondering about -- How come this story hasn't been picked up by Reuters, AP, etc.? I've tried various searches but so far this is the only article I could find about Colin Berry's plight. Not sure what to make of that....
Re: Power Outage
(1) Very surprised (and quite pleased) that people did not turn a bad situation into a horrible one (crime, looting, etc.)!
(2) Very relieved that the outage was caused by a lightning strike rather than terrorist attack!
(3) Very curious who said or did what that got God pissed off enough to be hurling thunderbolts! Uh-oh! Duck! /\/ /\/ /\/ (Phew! that was close!) ;o)
>>By am-i-binned (Saturday, 16 Aug 2003 03:39)
Hello, all.
Re, IA, dedications. Paul, is, Paul hill, who Am mentions, in the chapter where is wife is about to give birth. He died in the far east on a training excercise.
See you soon...back to ghost force by, Ken Connor (best i have read so far)
>>By Scouse (Saturday, 16 Aug 2003 05:41)
Scouse! Oooh, so glad to see you again! And also to really "see" you -- nice picture! Can't believe your smiling face has been there since the 9th and you didn't tell us! (vbg! vbw!) So, have you be away away or just lingering quietly?
Thanks for the dedication info -- Paul Hill (so sad) -- I didn't remember his name. Have my brain cells totally seized up? Does AM tell anywhere later about Paul Hill dying? Now the only one remaining to be identified is "Andy"... and maybe Edward C. S. Hooper (from Crisis Four)...
>>By am-i-binned (Saturday, 16 Aug 2003 06:16)
Hi AIB and Dare,
Don't you think that whichever way Colin Berry was involved, he should not be kept and tortured for months?
Should there not be a real investigation with the Americans partaking, as they were involved too?(I'm not sure if they aren't partaking.)
Should he not have a "fair" trial, should he not be helped by the British governement, no matter what he did?
It's bad enough that in third world countries they torture their own people, and it's hard to do something against it, should we not at least keep it from happening to our "own"?
That's just my opinion, you know.
Tell me if I'm wrong.
>>By Lethe (Saturday, 16 Aug 2003 11:59)
Yes, ABSOLUTELY, Lethe! I'm very sorry if I obscured that point!
Regardless of who did what where to whom and how, we (US and UK) should get Colin out of there! Given his situation, even if US/UK don't have the integrity to stand up for him, I would think Amnesty International should be involved (that's part of why I was looking for other reports...).
And as to the torture and conditions in which Colin is being held, seems to me I recall GWB (and TB) had a few things to say about Saddam's similar hospitality... is this so different? Oh, yeah, I forgot (sarcasm plus!), there's the CIA-supplied arms buyback! Well, shame on us! We're big enough to afford egg on our face -- and I can't believe it would be that big a surprise cuz it certainly wouldn't be the first time (Iran-Contra seems to ring a bell)... but, well, there you go. What's wrong with me?--expecting more from politicians! Now see, Dare, this is where my scepticism really kicks in...
>>By am-i-binned (Saturday, 16 Aug 2003 17:24)
Only if no one cares anymore nothing will change.
It's good that you(we) do.
Who are GWB and TB?
>>By Lethe (Saturday, 16 Aug 2003 18:07)
George W Bush and Tony Blair... (sorry, Lethe!)
>>By am-i-binned (Saturday, 16 Aug 2003 18:11)
Hello Lethe,
I don't think Colin should be left there either. No one should be subjected to torture. If he's actually guilty of murdering two men in a botched antiques deal, then he should be held accountable according to that country's law. The fact that they didn't summarily carry out that sentence could be for several reasons. 1.) His embassy (or the American embassy) is working on his behalf to get him out; 2.) The Afghan government thinks he has information they can benefit from; 3.) He is being granted the proper time to appeal his sentence; 4.) They haven't gotten around to him yet; 5.) He's being prepped to go deep as a "disaffected" ex-agent.... There are many possibilities. I hope that no matter which way this goes, he's treated humanely.
And I think the UK and US don't just jump right in and get involved in cases like these is both governments get accused of pushing other countries around, stepping on their sovereign rights, expecting their citizens to get special treatment, etc, etc. They have to be careful in how it's handled. The fact his story is out there at all shows they are giving his case some attention.
My biggest gripe, which may not have been presented clearly, is actually with the journalists that are "mis-"handling his story. And as for the Americans being involved (or even British Intelligence), we have only Colin's word or what the story claims anyway. There are many proofs of CIA arms-buybacks, but that story does not present compelling evidence that was involved in this instance. The way "facts" are presented is what gets my skepticism kicking into high-gear, actually.
Colin (or the press) may not be telling the truth. Colin may be, but again, it's hard to say with the way information is being presented by the press. (In case you didn't notice, if there's any group out there I'm cynical of, it's the media.)
I do feel badly for his family and the way their pain is being exploited to sell newspapers. Again, I hope, no matter how this plays out, Colin is treated humanely.
>>By Dare (Saturday, 16 Aug 2003 21:44)
Hi Dare,
You're right to be wary of what the media say, so am I.
As far as I'm concerned nothing they say is true.
For instance AIB, you think that the power failure was not caused by terrorist activity.
But how do you know?
Did you hear it on the news?
Maybe it just was in the government's best interest to hide the truth, and not acknowledge their failure, or vulnerability.
Just "conspracy-theorizing" ;)
We just get pieces of info from and among all the rubbish we have to try and get the picture for ourselves.
It sure is disgusting the way some subjects are handled, events are milked for all they're worth when it comes to pain and suffering.
Some papers are worse than others.
It used to upset me, but not anymore.
Apparently it's what people want.
>>By Lethe (Saturday, 16 Aug 2003 23:49)
Sorry, I wasn't finished yet, but I hit the wrong button.
I just wanted to say that that doesn't make it less disgusting ofcourse.
And that I think it's all about money.
Whenever I see an ad where they say things like: "We just want to give you our best service" or "Your security is our concern " or "I sell you these things to make you happy" I always add in my mind "We want to make as much money of you as possible(and for the rest we don't give a damn)"
The same goes for the media.
They sell info, they want money, they don't need morals, ethics.
Only when it suits them.
Well, you get the point.
I've rambled on enough now.
Ramble to you later :)
>>By Lethe (Sunday, 17 Aug 2003 00:03)
Ok, I'm still trying to read all of the posts on the previous 64 pages. This wouldn't be taking me so long but for the fact I have three finals this week (yes, again! :P) and I've been trying to check ALL of the sites and pages you guys have suggested. SHEESH! I can't keep up and I'm only on page 27!!!! :)
So.... has there been any new word on Andy McNab movies? Mark Lucas and AM might be thinking Brad Pitt would be good for NS based on his work in "Snatch". BP does a good job with the accent and the scrap-fighter character in that movie. BP has to work past his pretty-boy image, but his recent work has held up pretty well. Haven't seen "Fight Club" but did see "The Mexican". Thought "The Mexican" was a hoot and very good work. The soundtrack was great too. :)
I'd prefer to see them use a Brit to play Nick, though. :)
Wellington's comments on Firewall: What happened to the russion property he was given in Firewall ?? Did I miss something because there was no mention in Last light.
Yeah, I was wondering why Nick didn't work out something to sell off the St. Pete's property. Even selling for a huge loss on the actual value, he'd make enough to take some of the pressure off and help pay for Kelly's treatment. If he could get together with Al DeNiro, I'm sure they could work out a way to broker a deal and hide the money in an account somewhere. ---- I'm also surprised that Al didn't help Nick out with setting up an acount in the Cayman's or Switzerland for the money he "found" for him in RC. A deposit that big into Nick's account had to set off bells and whistles, especially since he works for the Firm.
And AIB on same--- I've wondered the same exact thing about Valentin's offer! All things considered, I would have advised Nick to throw his hand in with Valentin for the short-run to cash in on the properties. Better the devil you know.... Plus I'd really like to know Valentin's explanation of "this whole sorry affair", what Ignati's role was, and who the heck were Valentin's nephews.
ME TOO, me too! Maybe that's what "Dark Winter" will be about. :) Yeah, I was thinking there were a lot of doors in those houses! Good catch. Of course, I spent 5 years living in an OLD (circa 1886) Queen Anne-style house in upstate NY. I couldn't figure out why one reasoanbly sized room needed 3 interior doors and one door to the outside. And all of the bedrooms had connecting doors. Very odd, difficult to decorate around---- and an absolute b***h to clear a room while trying to keep someone from coming up behind. :)
Anyway, hope everyone is having a good day --- and if not, then hope your papers are nice and cosy on your person and your getaway is clean. :)
>>By Dare (Sunday, 17 Aug 2003 19:54)
Wow, really can't leave very long here.. lot of catching up to do. Interesting topics too and welcome Dare..
See you all later, homework first..
Take care,
>>By Lynn (Sunday, 17 Aug 2003 21:06)
Finally worked out Flork after being away for a while! Will now spend a bit of time catching up! Currently on a pc in a Wimpy burger bar! Mine crashed and I'm awaiting an engineer, so apologies if anyone has e-mailed me in the last week, I haven't checked my e-mails. Thank God I save everything on removable disks........
Apparently - aka (artist formally known as Sheba)
>>By Apparently (Monday, 18 Aug 2003 15:14)
Hmmm.... how to punctuate? Best guess:
Welcome back, Apparently, Sheba!
Regardless, you've been missed, quite apparently!
>>By am-i-binned (Monday, 18 Aug 2003 16:34)
Hey folks I'm back!
Guess what ... just read LL and now I'm finishing Land of fire (CR), not bad at all.
Read LL in 2 days, so how is that...(will comment later on have to go shopping now otherwise no supper this evening and will find maddened husband around the house).
Must say, much more sex in CR's book than in AM's. (I wonder why.....)giggle giggle ;)) naughty me!
>>By borisette (Monday, 18 Aug 2003 16:50)
Ooooh, hello, Borisette! Very nice to see you back again, too! Please fix up something easy and ask your hubby to eat quickly. Tell him a-i-b is impatient to know your thoughts on LL... :o)
>>By am-i-binned (Monday, 18 Aug 2003 17:25)
hi everyone, just found this forum, and i'm impressed by the huge volume of stuff here.
I started reading mcnab when i was in the army a couple of years ago, when i read bravo two zero and immediate action... it somehow made 20 mile marches easier when you read about a guy doing 300km with a pack of crackers, and also because we were doing pretty much the same things...
I have a few questions though, and you guys seem to be the ones that know this.
I'm sorry if some of this has been asked/answered before, but it'd take a huge amount of time to read through all of this...
1) i read somewhere that andy mcnab is actually a pseudonym... comments on that?
2) i've been trying to look for the 'bravo two zero' dvd for a long time, can't seem to get my hands on it... ideas on that?
sorry for all bad spelling and tpyos...
>>By walla (Monday, 18 Aug 2003 18:51)
Welcome, Walla...
Very glad you've found us! I think you'll find us quite gregarious and more than willing to revisit any and all subjects AM/NS/SAS-related. (well, unless too girlie for too long, then the gentlemen here tend to understandably zone out... vbg! vbw!)
(1) Yes, Andy McNab is a pseudonym. Speculation pops up here from time to time as to his true name, but you do understand, don't you, there is a life expectancy issue involved! After all, there's always the chance that someone could tell you, but then they'd have to kill you... ;o)
(2) The DVD of B20 is available in PAL format with the 22 minute AM interview included. You can order from various online bookstores like Amazon.co.uk, but you could also use the Product Locator (below) and watch eBay (copies are sometimes auctioned for cheap).
Have you read AM's fictions?
>>By am-i-binned (Monday, 18 Aug 2003 19:39)
Walla, just a quick follow-up...
I looked on eBay, there are six listed but only one is PAL format. The US version (Region 1) does not include the AM interview.
>>By am-i-binned (Monday, 18 Aug 2003 20:08)
thanks am-i-binned for a quick reply...
i started going through the pages, and am beginning to get a broader viewpoint on this forum... Sofar (9/65) it's been great...
It really seems as though you know a lot about mcnab & co...
i've read firewall of AM's fiction books, as it's played out in finland, where i live... Trying to get hold of AM books here is not really a piece of cake, and it requires a bit of work...
any chance of getting some of the old transcripts and stuff that's been handed out in offboard mails or merely just get involved in it?
-walla
>>By walla (Monday, 18 Aug 2003 21:03)
No probs on old transcripts and such, Walla. Anything specific you're looking for, post a request and/or ref the page where you saw it. Anything any of us have, we'll be sure to get to you. (Whispered: Me knowing a lot is only an illusion, a side effect of compulsive filing habits... LOL!)
>>By am-i-binned (Monday, 18 Aug 2003 21:35)
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