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Just a quick note to say I am know the proud owner of all of Andy McNabs fiction books. 1st edition non the less. Now if I could get them signed?
Hey MG. Missed you too.
>>By DTO (Saturday, 12 Jul 2003 18:34)
Hi DTO !!
How nice to see you back. And you've got all the books....
that's great.
If you can get them signed, will you tell us your secret?!?!
>>By Lynn (Saturday, 12 Jul 2003 18:39)
You know what "they" say about lurkers, DTO, but we won't go into that here. Gee, you've beaten me to collector status on AM literary sustenance...
Did you know I'm getting a bit of a complex - when I show up oldies from way back appear for a few posts, and hosts of newbies usually fall out of the great blue as well!!!
Yes Lynn, in one sense to the off roof mode, (temporary, purely temporary) and thinking on how I can tempt Dean to come fit a new kitchen for me. He has to be expert after fixing his own, and I really nead a handy man (woodwork) for helping to put up wood panelling throughout the kitchen and galleried lounge. (split-level) Oh, then there's the veranda to build, and a sun-lounge, and erection of guest cabin...
Crisis Four, Last Light & Liberation day (both at 5p each brand new) is my lot, but I'll pick up the others as and when (ASAP) just as soon as I get the catalogue.
>>By buddy (Saturday, 12 Jul 2003 19:47)
If I didn't know better I'd swear you were recruiting workers here Buddy ;-)
5p each brand new - are you talking GBP here 'cause I thought in UK p was for pence ?? But 5 GBP isn't expensive either..
>>By Lynn (Saturday, 12 Jul 2003 21:17)
hi paul
i found this site after typing andy mcnab into google. i had read bravo 2 zero and thought andy mcnab was a great writer. i then read ashers real bravo 2 zero, and was a bit confused. i really loved the way he(mcnab) wrote and went out to buy immediate action and all his paper back fiction books. i loved all of them even last light which some folk here have been saying wasn't his strongest book. i didn't think any of them were that realistic but i enjoyed reading what nick stone was doing, and i'm so glad he might have found a genuine love interest. but alas i don't have a big income and with 2 children i can't afford liberation day until it comes out in paperback in novenber(thankyou i-am-binned). i can't wait.
i don't know whether this is useful but panorama is on tomorrow night and it is showing lots of bits from the whole series which ends tomorrow night. whether mcnabs interviews may be shown in part- i don't know. was it from this series the program mentioned earlier? i can't watch it as 24 is on and i missed it last week and have to catch up on bbc3.
>>By eagles nest (Saturday, 12 Jul 2003 21:56)
5 pence Lynn - dirt cheap...I picked up five books in all as new subscriber to book club...I stay for year, sign off, then join again when they're really desperate for business - I then pick up another 5 books for 5p. I have to buy 4 books within twelve months at lower than normal retail price, and all in all the books (Hardbacks) pan out at about £5 each...
Ha ha, let AM work than one out - as bad as me for numbers!!!Though averaging about right on overall price.
>>By buddy (Saturday, 12 Jul 2003 23:33)
Aaah.. I understand now. We do have a bookclub like that. (Whisper: I signed off last year and they called me, if I'd stay on for another year they'd offer me a cheque for about 30 GBP to be spend on books, and I knew they would call me because it happened to someone I know, so I only signed of for that reason VBW)
Panorama is usually on BBC 1 right?!? If so thank you Eagles Nest, I can receive BBC 1 & 2 here. I didn't even know there was a BBC 3 ??? Are you a 24 lover too?? Then join the club! We have several on this board.
>>By Lynn (Sunday, 13 Jul 2003 09:01)
Just a couple of cheapskates, then, and more in common than we thought, huh, Lynn ;-)
Actually, on the recruiting thing...LOL, I needed some trees felled (thinned) about five years ago, so I placed a carefully worded ad in Sunday Times for tough male slaves to work on a chain-gang, food, water, and dungeon as sleeping quarters (chained to walls), send photograph with CV...Wowee, flabergasted is the only term that comes to mind...Some of the guys were stunning lookers, (inclusive military personnel/chief execs/company directors/lawyers) bodies to die for, and the letters offering all manner of inducement for favoured selection....I dare not tell you more...
>>By buddy (Sunday, 13 Jul 2003 11:57)
About the bookclub:
At least we have the bookclub in common
About the slave add:
At least we have the bookclub in common
.... hahaha
(and very very cruel to start so promising and then pull the plug)
>>By Lynn (Sunday, 13 Jul 2003 12:04)
Oh, Eagles Nest I just thought: It might be a good idea for you to check out eBay from time to time. I just checked, there's only an audio book of Liberation Day for sale now, but I bought Lib.Day through eBay a couple of months ago, real cheap
(talking about cheapskates...). And since you are in the UK it's even cheaper for you because of the postage. If you type in
Andy Mcnab (see way down at this page) in the product locator you'll get to all his products for sale at the moment. If you haven't bought anything through eBay yet and you want to know more about it you know how to use the message feature on Flork...
>>By Lynn (Sunday, 13 Jul 2003 12:20)
panorama is on bbc1. like i said though i don't know whether andy mcnab interview will be on- let me know tomorrow. 24 fan i am. jack bauer is nick stone(or he could be some of the scrapes he gets himself into). the bbc3 i mentioned used to be bbc choice. a channel which showed kids shows through the day then repeats in the evening. but recently bbc has introduced a seperate kids channel and a bbc4. so bbc choice changed to bbc3. its only useful for sunday night, 24 is shown a week ahead of terrestrial tv and i hate surprises. last weekend we took the kids to visit relatives who hadn't met the baby yet. and i couldn't watch the next episode. so tonight i get 2 hours worth, a bottle of red wine may have my name on also. i can't wait. roll on 10pm.bye for now.
>>By eagles nest (Sunday, 13 Jul 2003 13:02)
hi lynn, thanks for the tip about ebay. i haven't ever used it before so when i go on i will be in touch. i was at a car boot sale yesterday and i bought tom clancy's power play politika. i haven't read any tom clancy books but you all sing his praises so i bought it. haven't had much time yet though to read. and the paper has now arrived. speak later, take care bye.
>>By eagles nest (Sunday, 13 Jul 2003 13:10)
Who Dares Wins, Lynn, and writers/authors often resort to extreme measures in the name of research, ha, ha, take the disgraced peer Jeffrey Archer and his curb-crawling research...
The inner sanctum of the male psyche is a wondrous cavern of untapped treasures: to behold, to digest over a good bottle of wine!!!
Eagles nest, Tom Clancy is a powerful writer. You'll feel the energy from within, but no AM one-liners to cause the odd giggle, snigger, or uncontrolled moment of ROFL.
>>By buddy (Sunday, 13 Jul 2003 14:29)
Oooh, more 24'ers! And, mmmm, yes, Jack/Nick, absolutely! (vbg! vbw!) Here's a neat interactive link, local to me (US), which you might like: http://www.fox.com/24/
Hi-ho, hi-ho, it's off to work I go... :o(
but truth is, it'd be much nicer spending the day with y'all... :o)
'til sooner...
>>By am-i-binned (Sunday, 13 Jul 2003 16:07)
So you can also do this kind of research before your first book...??? I mean, that's excellent opportunity.... ;-)
So the book was never written... nah... but I had a lot of fun!!
Does anyone know the address of newspaper adverts.....
I may be gone for a while now. If you're looking for me, check out the dungeon... :o)
>>By Lynn (Sunday, 13 Jul 2003 22:31)
10 minutes till 24. i can't wait. the bottle of wine has already gone down a treat!
>>By eagles nest (Sunday, 13 Jul 2003 22:51)
So raid the wine rack...
IRA man just picked up in Israel, doing the tourist bit toward the Palestian sector - member of the Real IRA...
A job for Nick Stone, and excellent knowledge of Palestinian/Israeli history for refs to who was who in the terrorist stakes on both sides available!!! Ah well, not that he (AM) would want that kind of information from a mere woman...
Hey Lynn, watch out for the spiders webs...
>>By buddy (Sunday, 13 Jul 2003 23:17)
Thanks, am-i-binned, for the tip on Dean Francis.
I'll check him out.
By the way, as soon as I read about Panorama I raced downstairs to the tv. Alas, no Andy, maybe because I was 15 minutes late.
Was there anything about him?
But I did see the part about corruption in horse racing, and that reminded me of Dick Francis.
No spy stories here, every one of his stories take place in the world of horse racing, but very nice stories about corruption(indeed) , smuggling, doping, murder, and other interesting crimes.
So, if you're out of McNabs at the moment, you might give them a try.
Hi Lynn,
Dean Francis huh?
Ok, I'll check him out ;)
Did you find out what exactly was missing in the Dutch version of B20?
You know, I read in English because I can, and I love the language.
Besides, so much gets lost in the translation.
Apart from translations into Dutch being plain bad and sometimes wrong, you loose the feel of the language, the words, the rythm.
Think about it, it's the man's own language.
This is what he speaks and thinks.
Well, anyway, if he were French I probably would read it in Dutch.
My French isn't so good.
And if he were Russian I would have no choice ;)
Hey readers who can't afford to buy the books, isn't there a library in your town?
I live in a small village (bij Nijmegen) with a small library, they don't have a lot but they can order the books for me from other libraries.
Hope I didn't forget anything, be back next week-end.
Prettige vakantie Lynn (gok ik maar even).
>>By Lethe (Monday, 14 Jul 2003 01:44)
Hello, to you all.
I'm an avid reader of all things Mcnab. Immediate Action is my favourite. But why do you think in IA, he only wrote about his experiences up untill the Gulf War?. He served another two years after that, untill 1993, but chose to leave out that chapter in his life. I would have loved to have known what missions he was involved in, and how he coped pyscologically after his nightmare in Iraq.
>>By David (Monday, 14 Jul 2003 05:19)
David:
I'd say he probably did a stint or two in the Balkans before throwing in the towel. If so, I'd suspect those ops being too sensitive to the MoD's liking and therefore couldn't be included in IA.
Speaking of which: a great book accounting for SAS-ops in Bosnia, is Cameron Spence's All Necessary Measures. If you like McNab's non-fictional books, you'll most likely enjoy Spence just as much. His disclosures of the countless wind-ups and piss-takings in both of his books (his first book Sabre Squadron accounts for the one half of A squadron's mission in Iraq '91) are hilarious, and as buddy admits: some stories almost makes you roll over the floor laughing in uncontrollable spasms.
I also highly recommend CQB by Mike Curtis. It's similar to AM's Immediate Action, and it's a great read. Everybody log into amazon and order your copy now!
>>By ortlieb (Monday, 14 Jul 2003 08:39)
Lethe, for some people, to own a book is a bit like knowing the delicious sensation of having a chocolate bar always on the shelf...
Personally, I don't feel at home without walls of books (hardbacks) - public libraries useful for research purposes. However, that doesn't stop me seeking out bargain purchases so that I can own twice as many books and put up twice as many book shelves...There's nothing more pleasurable than watching guests browsing one's books, and musing their selections for quick peeks - a glimpse into their own reading tastes or intended reading matter. Then there are those guests who try to analyse the host from books seen, that's why I don't go in for glossy coffee-table books: plebish...
Have any of you ponder the possibility as to how AM could reinvent himself, and come out of the darkness, on the basis that RC (I belive) is a public confession on participation in the Gibralta party, and I guess one other book might be inciminating evidence? Yet to read both.
Irish people have long memories (!?!) as for Balkan bandits, well, say no more, they all have swish pads in London don't they living off the proceeds of white slavery (illegal immigrant prostitutes) throughout the UK, plus gun-running drug-pedalling - one of any of those actibvities could well trap a few ex SAS men!!!
David, the psychological aspect of AM's captivity will never go away, any more than it did for Nichol or the civilan captives in Beirut etc., the nightmares may become less regular in visitations but no less vivid...
>>By buddy (Monday, 14 Jul 2003 10:01)
Gee, talk about bad grammar = fingers too fleet on keyboard:
>>>Have any of you ponder the possibility<<< should have read:
How many of you ponder thhe possibility....
>>By buddy (Monday, 14 Jul 2003 10:05)
I give up thhhhh
>>By buddy (Monday, 14 Jul 2003 10:07)
And now, a short story by ortlieb:
As this years summer has been a very good one with exceptionally warm weather up here in the otherwise freezing Arctic, the quality of my sleep has had to pay the prize. Tossing and turning about in bed, then suddenly coming round to a waking state with a violent jerk, for then to pass out into an unconscious fog has now become the order of the day (or should I say night) for me. As a consequence of this, my subconsciouness has managed to produce dreams so strange and outlandish that even David Lynch would be in awe if he could see them.
My girlfriend, who also has trouble sleeping these days (in which, unfortunately, I'm partly responsible), usually spends her late evenings reading books hoping to become dead tired.
By now, she's become used to the familiar situation of me throwing various incoherent remarks related to my acid-trip dreams her way. This event often takes place when I experience the abrupt awakenings. In curious anticipation she now awaits my verbal avalanche of moronic babble, devilishly planning to take the total piss out of me during the session.
Last night, true to form, I abruptly awoke in a foggy haze with a thousand yard stare in my eyes...
Me: Eight! They were eight!!
My GF: What!?
Me: I'm telling you. They were EIGHT. I've told you hundreds of times before...
My GF: No you haven't! What the hell are you on about anyway?!
Me: *Mumbling something, fading out...*
My GF: *Laughing, amused being a witness to this bizarre event*
Me: You're wrong. It was the Falklands war.
My GF: Oh, really...
Me: You're wrong. Curtis was a Para in the Falklands war. He wasn't in the gulf...
My GF: *Laughing, shaking her head* Go to sleep, you wanker!
And with that I succumbed to Mr. Sandman, dragging me into whatever world I had arrived from.
The morale:
This is what happens when you spend too much time with your nose into an SAS-book and on Andy McNab message-boards. It could very well lead to situations where you're acting like a total nitwit and hence risking being taken the piss out of by people you thought were friends of yours....
*lol* No offence guys. :)
>>By ortlieb (Monday, 14 Jul 2003 13:34)
Haaaaaaaaa, back again,
Just finished reading B20 and TOTGA.
Liked both of them.
Agree with Lethe, that B20 gets rather technical and had to look back at what the abreviations ment. At one time I thought the minime was the minimi from the Spy who Shaged me...(lol) Liked the foto's and sketches. You can read that there isn't much simpathy between AM and CR though. CR doesn't understand why AM at the end avoided him that way, not returning his phonecalls not a handshake, nothing, after all they've been through.
CR has a big introduction and explains why
Vince's family was so upset with him. He does explain and admitts that he should have tied him on to himself.What Cr says about AM made me laugh : AM a Cockney Jack the lad with such a gift of the gab that he would talk his way out of any situation and tie you in a knot. Dark- haired with a moustache he'd done a lot of work in the regiment and was a good demolitionist-but words came out of him so fast that you never quite knew where you were.
I admired much Bob, he must have been a great guy and a great soldier too.
What happened afterwards to Stan and Dinger? Does anyone know? What do they do now?
I think the most has been said about the books allready on this forum, so I won't add anything. Huge mistakes had been made, but mostly from the intelligence and the guy who gave out the wrong frequencies, well I hope he had a good boxing of the ears.
I just bought Clancy's Special Forces, can't find any AM's or CR's books here, and buying them on the net gets quite expensive. So hey you guys (meaning AM and CR) get yourselves some more publicity here in Italy.
Maybe in the near future I'll buy Curtis and Cameron's book, that is if finances goes better here, this week I have to pay my taxbill, yek.
>>By borisette (Monday, 14 Jul 2003 14:02)
There you go Ortlieb, the subconscious (dreamlike state) skipped the locker-room and thus you rambled without your orange hat as a trusted guiding mentor. Just as well, 'cos there's a wet patch to catch the unwary. Piss-taker anon at work, but not unexpected in F Troops locker-room...
Tut tut, W****r, Sad, Obsessed, etc., are dirty words around here. You say them at your peril!! But. it is an honest soul who admits to affliction of addiction whether they have a life beyond this board or not!!!
Hark!!!! Was that a whoopy cushion or was it AM?
>>By buddy (Monday, 14 Jul 2003 14:08)
http://britains-smallwars.com/main/opspage1.htm
>>By atti (Monday, 14 Jul 2003 19:10)
Welcome, Atti...
Thank you for the site. Looking around, found SitRep and a film trailer for a series "Forgotten Wars". Extremely moving! I'm really hoping it will be available here in US.
Welcome, David...
Good point! Guess I just figured IA was a prequel and stopped where B20 began. Hmmm.... maybe AM could be persuaded to do a Bio III.
Oh, Ortlieb!
The solution is so simple! Just let your girlfriend read your books!
My gosh! Borisette?!?...
Is that what happens when you read B20 and TOTGA immediately back to back? (shock passing now) Okay, so versions and discrepancies aside, do you have a preference in writing style between AM and CR?
Oooooh, come on, Paul R!
Part 3, "Interview with Nick Stone" -- pleeeeeeez! Or I'll just have to keep whining, whinging, whatever at you!
By the way, Lethe and Borisette....
Regarding Clancy, I always recommend his Jack Ryan series, although I have yet to read Red Rabbit. But if you found B20's beginning technical, you'll find Clancy extremely so! But once past his technical foundation, his stories really move. Lethe, did you like the way he wrote Hunt for Red October?
Hi there, Buddy...
You're absolutely glowing in your swish orange hat! Looks nice! :o)
Curious, Eagles Nest...
What hour are you in right now? Suffering serious post-season 24 withdrawal symptoms over here...
Hey, Christina...
So how's Lion's Game coming? Do you like Corey? I'm definitely in agreement with Buddy about this DeMille book.
Hi, Paul B...
Thanks for the info on Gerald Seymour. I'll add him to my "look-for" authors list...
Hi again, DTO...
Careful there, fella! 1st editions and wanting them signed? Sounds like you've been converted...
Uhm, Lynn...
You been in the tulip patch again?
All…
Found this article (while looking for stuff on AM) on top ten best selling books in Britain right now. Mentions AM in connection with CR; CR’s Greed being number one on the list. Also mentions Kathy Reich, the author you recommended, Lethe, also now on my “look-for” list.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/review/story/
0,6903,996923,00.html
(remove hard return where hyperlink wraps)
>>By am-i-binned (Monday, 14 Jul 2003 20:17)
am-i-binned, on bbc3 were up to 5am, only another 3 weeks to go and thats another 6 months of my life away. that programme makes me feel old. president palmers cabinet has took a vote to remove him from command and the microchip has been damaged. i always thought the series ran at the same time as in america but what you wrote suggests you are ahead of us. do let me know whether to get jelous or not!!
>>By eagles nest (Monday, 14 Jul 2003 22:36)
Am-I-Binned, yeah, I'm not sure whether to sit on the orange hat or wear the thing, it reminds me of a traffic cone!
Kathy Reichs is OK, sort of Patricia Cornwell, sort of your average Forensic Science genre, or should I say saturated genre (blood red) Have read Deadly Decisions but wouldn't go out of my way to pick up another KR book...All the new Crime Genre books seem to be nothing more than revamped 21st Century versions of Agatha Christie airing toward the morgue as opposed to the funeral and inevitable hypothesis of who dunnit...
Spotted this on Amazon.com today (++++++) and thought it slightly amusing:
Perfect Partner
Buy Dark Winter with Greed today!
Total List Price: £34.98
Buy Together Today: £21.08
You Save: £13.90
"Greed" as you said, a Chris Ryan novel...
Purrfect Partners (?) Think not! Ha, ha.
>>By buddy (Monday, 14 Jul 2003 23:29)
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