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>>By eagles nest (Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 10:42)
hello all!
eagles nest - its on uk history but i have no idea when (it tears me apart....!)
all - i stopped posting for a bit cos, quite frankly, i couldnt keep up! but you remembered me aib!!! so i am back and will try my best to keep up and sort myself out regarding the buffer/logging on thing. (dont get on the pc much you see!)
>>By hazel (Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 10:50)
The Brits love a loser - McNab failed (as did his superiors) yet he has made millions from it
Before you lot go off into one, I am one of McNabs biggest fans and love his writing - both Fiction and Non. But it doesn't cloud my judgment when considering the truth
History in Britain is littered with failures (sport usually) who are transformed into heros
McNab is a fantastic writer and I say good luck to him for building such a succesful career in writing, but the fact remains he messed up (not all his fault, granted) and he has become a success because of it
If I make a wrong decision and balls up my job today, do you think I'll get offered a big bucks publishing deal? I'm proud to be a brit, but the truth is brits love a loser
>>By still here (Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 12:05)
May I ask who are the moderators of this messageboard?
By the way, did the habit of timestamping postings fade away... ?
>>By ortlieb (Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 13:57)
To all long-time and new posters...
I apologize for any and all the things I have said here which caused hurt or offense. I truly do want this board to flourish, yet despite my best intentions and by my own doing, it seems I've managed to do significant damage. I can only say that I am truly sorry, and I promise to avoid anything which might cause any future confrontations.
>>By am-i-binned (Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 14:04)
To all:
Does there exist any interviews or similar where AM comments the authors of books that questions the credibility of certain elements in B20?
Got any tips as to where can I find interviews (both text and audio) of known SAS authors like AM, CR, Ratcliffe, Asher, Spence, Davies etc. ?
buddy:
Is it likely that you'll follow in the footsteps of Frances Nicholson and Jenny Simpson one of these days?
>>By ortlieb (Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 14:06)
Hi Ortlieb,
MG is our moderator. He owns this place and so he can do with it what he likes - so far I think he's doing a wonderful job. He also invents those neat little things like the Product Locator
and Flork. If you register, which is very easy and does not require you to give any personal information, you get a password. If you log in you can make your own personal profile, see the other profiles, send messages to others who are registered and you see the time stamps.
About the interviews: I usually use google to do a search, if you type Andy McNab interview you'll probably get directed to lots of them. Same for the other authors of course. One I can give you because I know it by heart is if you go to www.relaxwithabook.com and do a search for Andy. Good luck! Let us know what you find. If I have more time or anyone else who knows they can give you other links.
>>By Lynn (Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 14:15)
Following Lynn's advice, I'm now a Flork-member.
MG: My email-address won't be operational after July 18th. Does this matter, ie, will I be getting mails from Flork now and then?
I've also found an AM-interview which is interesting. It's totally standard stuff though, no bomb-shells or anything. I expect most of you have read it already, but the link is:
www.randomhouse.com/
BB/promos/remotecontrol/interview.html
I'll be prowling the web for more stuff, so I'll give a nudge if I stumble across something out of the ordinary.
>>By ortlieb (Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 14:43)
Hi as bored as I am in work (good job boss is nowhere near!) I emailed UK History they aren't going to show the question of betrayl documentary in the near future. Damn. Anyone got any good ideas?
>>By Beth (Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 14:48)
Beth: I think someone said in a previous posting that you can order the documentary in VHS-format directly from the production company. Obviously, it'll cost you a few £'s I guess....
>>By ortlieb (Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 15:01)
Just a quickie and then I've really got to do some work. I read this in an interview with CR and I think it's quite appropriate here and now.
"There were 8 members in that patrol, and each of us had an opinion, and in a common army expression we all have an a**ehole but we all think each other's stinks."
Could AM have put it better himself??
>>By Beth (Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 15:25)
Sorry, about the false info Re B20 - A.Q.O.B. I got it mixed up with 'The Real Bravo Two 0'.
Beth, you can get your own copy from Panorama for £35. If you do can i borrow it ? :-))
>>By Scouse (Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 15:58)
Of course you can, mind you £35 a bit steep! Hope you're not a toffee boy scouse. Are you from Liverpool? I lived there for 4 years, loved it. You're forgiven for getting it wrong, but just this once....
>>By Beth (Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 16:13)
Welcome, Eagles Nest...
The paperback of Liberation Day is due out in the UK on 3 Nov 2003.
Hey there, Scouse...
I'm sorry, I'm a little confused now... has the "The Real Bravo Two Zero" program aired yet? Although it's not like I can see it any better now than before (mutter, mutter, mumble, mumble)..... :o(
Hi again, Beth...
Even though the program Scouse was mentioning was TRB20, Ortlieb and Scouse are correct about the BBC tapes (PAL format) of "B20: A Question of Betrayal" for £35 (big ouch!). You can get the transcript, however, by going to:
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/audiovideo/programmes/
panorama/1802091.stm
(remove hard return where hyperlink wraps)
Oooh, Ortlieb, you look so good in orange!
Just a quick follow-up, you asked about the timestamps (which is now moot for you since you're registered/orange) but for other poster who might wonder -- when we first started here, timestamping was not available so we improvised and included our own stamps in our postings. I do have a laundry list of all kinds of links (from interviews to miscellaneous related subjects). Most have been posted throughout the various pages here, but if you'd like me to, I'll try to pull together a compilation for you.
I'm sorry, Chris, you're correct, that post is not on pg 23 any more, although it is/was on 23 in my files, so it must have been deleted (poof'd) sometime after I copied that page. My mistake, I'm sorry.
>>By am-i-binned (Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 16:21)
Ultimate Force (first series starring and co-written by CR) is now available on DVD or VHS
The 'Afterwards' chapter of The Eye of The Storm is very enlightening and interesting. I got the impression that PR was really telling the truth, although the initials of his psydeum could be a clue that he too is taking us for a ride...
Anyone have an update on Dark Winter?
>>By sasman (Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 21:25)
this brought a smile to my face:
goto Google (USA) and type in 'weapons of mass destruction'
DON'T Click on search or it won't work!! Click on 'I'm feeling Lucky' and read the error message carefully!!
>>By sasman (Thursday, 10 Jul 2003 23:19)
google uk also. thats so funny.
i love andy mcnabs books. i have read them all apart from liberation day. i really like kelly and tom. i have read the one that got away by chris ryan and michael ashers alternative version. i didn;t watch the first series of ultimate force as i had barely heard of the sas then, but now having been introduced to andy mcnabs books, i have watched this series. it's really good but no sign of chris ryan.
a list of interviews and miscellaneous related subjectsetc would be handy to have an i binned.
>>By eagles nest (Friday, 11 Jul 2003 00:15)
i forgit to write. i also really like kellys gran as a character. she really cares for kelly and she doesn't know or understand anything about nicks job. all she sees is him letting down her grand daughter.
see ya
>>By eagles nest (Friday, 11 Jul 2003 00:20)
Welcome, Sasman!
Ohmigosh! How on earth did you find out to do that with Google?!? That's an absolute riot!!! No real updates that I know of for Dark Winter other than the info Amazon.co.uk has: 6 Nov 2003 release and a brief synposis, previously posted here by Stirling (pg 52).
Hi again, Eagles Nest...
May take a day or so, but will do on the list. You got me laughing, too; one of my favourite lines about Kelly's gran: "Kev must have got his dark skin and eyes from his mother, who still looked attractive, even if she did believe people really thought her jet-black hair was natural." Made me wonder who AM actually based these two on -- how could he know my in-laws?! LOL!
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 11 Jul 2003 01:07)
To sasman:
Since Ratcliffe is stressing the point of his book being a truthful account (and in particular stressing out that the fact of him using his real name instead of a pseudonym), why do you suspect him of doing just the opposite? Apparantly you've found some logic to the PR acronym?
It's not that I blindly swallow anything Ratcliffe throws at me (no pun intended). And although he might not have been the greatest tactitician in the Regiment, I don't think he would be stupid enough to take the effort of making a big point of him using his real name, for then risking being caught contradicting himself.
This would tear his own and the book's crediblity to pieces, and I can't imagine he would be that much of an imbecil.
Howver, if Peter "Billy" Ratcliffe turns out to be just another pseudonym, then he truly deserves a top ranking in the "22 SAS Wankers Hall of Fame."
>>By ortlieb (Friday, 11 Jul 2003 11:27)
Andy McNab is a fine writer and a remarkable person.
How often do you come across a person who really has something(new) to say?
I admire him greatly for the courage to write it all down as he did.
>>By Lethe_03 (Friday, 11 Jul 2003 13:55)
Has McNab suddenly discovered new vocabulary Lethe_03? because he has a habit of repeating himself parrot fashion.
Tell us what is (new) about any thing McNab says. Nothing new is said here either. The board is going over old ground third time round and new comers are too lazy to read from page 1 it seems, which makes you wonder whether they read McNab or just talk about reading him.
>>By chris (Friday, 11 Jul 2003 14:11)
Hah better say I have read all McNab's works and why I say he repeats himself tediously as if he just re-uses paragraphs from previous books.
>>By chris (Friday, 11 Jul 2003 14:14)
Welcome, Lethe_03...
Don't worry too much about trying to go back and read through all our previous pages here. To do so would be the equivalent of reading through a 450+ pg document (each pg here = 8-9 pgs in Word). It's nice if you can, but to revisit previous conversations is no problem either. As to the newness of AM's writing, much may depend on how recently you began to read him. For me, in discovering AM only last year, it was the uniqueness (the newness) of his writing style which struck me immediately. Since then I have found several authors with very similar style but his still appeals to me most. Have you read all of his books--both non-fic and fiction?
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 11 Jul 2003 14:40)
Thanks for your welcome, am-i-binned :)
I read some of the pages of this discussion, but indeed not all, so I don't exactly know what everyone else said.
What I wrote is my opinion, and if it it's the same as some one else's, so what, Chris?
I discovered Andy McNab's books a few weeks ago, and read Last Light, Firewall and Remote Control, which I read last and liked best.
I just got back from the library with Bravo Two Zero(saw the film) and Immediate action, which, by the way, they had to get from the Royal Dutch Military Academy.
I read Dutch, German, (a little) French, and English.
Some time ago I calculated that I have read about seven thousand books so far (started at 8, 5 books a week, left out the doubles, and minus periods I did not read a lot), a great part of which were thrillers.
Also, I write stories.
So I think I qualify as a person who can give her opinion on Andy McNab's books.
And I must say, compared to his books, most other thrillers seem insipid, the characters unreal.
As to why he has something new to say, I have to think about how to formulate that.
Be back later .
Lethe :)
I
>>By Lethe_03 (Friday, 11 Jul 2003 16:17)
Lethe_03:
You've read 7000 books, and it took an ex SAS sgt to impress you? Wow.... Tom Clancy eat your heart out, huh?
By the way.... 10 to 1 you're wearing glasses. :) (No offence).
>>By ortlieb (Friday, 11 Jul 2003 16:28)
Wow, Lethe! Yes, I'd think you are more than qualified.
May I be so bold as to suggest: first, read B20, then IA, then resume with AM's fiction, and if you happen to repeat RC before moving on to Crisis Four, I wouldn't blame you! Most of us seem to believe AM is best appreciated in publication order.
Is it safe to assume since you list Dutch as the first language in which you read, that you're a neighbor of Lynn, our rep from Holland?
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 11 Jul 2003 16:32)
Oooh, Ortlieb! Do you do Clancy too?
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 11 Jul 2003 16:38)
Thanks for your tips.
I will.
And though I feel a hundred years old sometimes, I don't wear glasses yet.
>>By Lethe (Friday, 11 Jul 2003 16:56)
....and I'm Dutch.
>>By Lethe (Friday, 11 Jul 2003 16:58)
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