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Morning, All! (well, still morning for me anyway...)
Welcome, mi li! And like Alice, I thank you for your kindness in your first posting. Curious: Are you reading Liberation Day in English?
I'm also hoping the stormy weather hasn't caused lost comms with our other newer posters! Still hanging on with us, Bleo, Scouse, cpm?
May I offer some lighter (and hopefully neutral) fare for friendly chuckles today ....
Top Ten Warning Signs for you to have your helmet on;
your flack-jacket zipped and the collar turned up,
and you have checked your ammo pouches;
tightened your safety harness;
and loosened the flap on your holster.
10. When a Sergeant says, "Trust me, sir."
9. When a Lieutenant says, "Based on my experience."
8. When a Captain says, " I was just thinking."
7. When a Major says, "The general wants,"
6. When a Colonel says, "I am just thinking of the troops."
5. When a General says, "Damn near anything in combat."
4. When the President says, "Its a limited deployment and the forces will be home by Christmas. Trust me."
3. When an Artillery guy says, "It's a precision munition."
2. When a civilian says, "The soldiers just don't understand."
1. When a pilot says, "Watch this."
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 9 May 2003 14:29)
Hello
i noticed on the first page,you speaking about a program called B20 a question of betrayal,does anyone know if it's on again soon?
>>By cold wet and hungry (Friday, 9 May 2003 17:34)
hi CWAH.
welcome
Im not sure when it's back on the idiot box,but there is a transcript somewere,i think A-I-B knows.i wouldn't mind watching it myself,as i missed it to.it sounds very juicy,and there was interviews with mike coburn (stan) and mal (mark)..i think.
while were waiting for DW,you gotta read CQB by Mike curtis (a big welsh taff).i found it on par with B20,especially the falklands bit,when he is in 2 para.
>>By scouse (Friday, 9 May 2003 17:41)
030509 1615 GMT
Wow! You never know what's underneath all those rocks on the Internet. Very intriguing posts over the last week or so. I'm going to have to re-read them all again.
Does anybody when Liberation Day comes out in paperback?
>>By Echo 5 (Friday, 9 May 2003 18:09)
F, May 9 (12:25pm) US
Welcome, Cold Wet and Hungry --
Now why does your name sounds so familiar? Oh yeah, Mr. & Mrs. Death's three little boys, now I remember! (big grin, wink)
Wow, Scouse, you've done some homework! There's a link to the transcript of the BBC Panorama program at:
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/audiovideo/programmes/panorama/1802091.stm
And fanx for recommending CQB -- very Twilight Zone -- I had actually just asked someone their opinion of that book but they haven't gotten back to me yet... cool coincidence!
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 9 May 2003 18:26)
I wouldn't say homework A-I-B,i just read from your message on page 1(im that lazy)
Anyhow.CQB is fanatastic,a right riveting read.one thing was bugging me,as i was reading his gulf war chapters,i noticed how much better A and D squadron's were prepared,including comm's,equipment,and force.it seem's the alleged statement from the CO in hereford, on B squadrons return,i can't remember the exact wording,but it was along the lines of,I was willing to sacrafice a patrol,for the other sqaudrons,and that they were in effect,expendable,seemed to be so.
scouse 65th sas
>>By scouse (Friday, 9 May 2003 19:44)
you probably know this already,but there is a long interview with AM and CR on the history channel page,if you search in the tv listings for Bravo two zero,hey presto.the interview is on the documentary that was shown a few weeks before.the questions are from members of the public,some very good ones and some bone ones.i wish i would have known,because i had a few questions for AM myself.he also says nick stone is based upon himself and various other members of sass,well the good parts anyway.
>>By scouse (Friday, 9 May 2003 20:49)
F, May 9 (3:55pm) US
Hello, Echo 5,
Per Amazon.uk, the paperback of Liberation Day is due out November 3, 2003 (Price: £6.99).
Hello, Scouse,
Homework short-cuts for you: pg 5, 1st post; pg 7 mid-way down...
http://www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/_mainsite_flash/index.php?
subpage=chatlive&action=LoadContent
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 9 May 2003 21:59)
Ahem. We offer sincere apologies to all on this message board for bad manners bad language bad behaviour.
We take our punishment in good heart painful though it will be.
For now the latest on Coburn's Soldier 5
Coburn will publish and be damned.
Mike (Kiwi) Coburn's book Soldier 5 will be published in a jurisdiction where the British can not get their hands on the profits.
From Australia, Coburn said: One of the few comparable cases involved another New Zealander, former MI6 agent Richard Tomlinson. His memoirs were published in Russia, Germany, France, Italy, Australia and Britain.
It is understood that the British pursued and received profits from the Australian and British sales of Tomlinson's book only.
Coburn's book refers to alleged high-level incompetence that possibly contributed to the deaths of three soldiers in the patrol.
Coburn was a member of the Bravo Two Zero (B20) patrol, dropped by helicopter into northeastern Iraq in January 1991 during the Gulf War.
Coburn was shot, captured, interrogated and tortured by Iraqi forces during 48 days in captivity. He claimed McNab had exagerated his own experience of interrogation in his book.
In 1993 and 1995 two members of the patrol, McNab and Ryan, wrote accounts of the mission in their books Bravo Two Zero and The One That Got Away, which the ministry approved. It is understood the authors were advised (pressured) to alter passages to obtain that approval. It is also understood they were offered substantial incentives.
Coburn and other SAS members were deeply upset at the false portrayal in Bravo Two Zero and The One That Got Away. They wanted the ministry to condemn the books and the films.
Because of the controversy created by the film the ministry decided in 1996 to introduce a confidentiality contract for special forces personnel. Those who refused to sign would be removed from 22 SAS.
Coburn said he signed the contract under pressure. He left the SAS in March 1997, partly, he said, because of the compulsion involved in the contract.
He later discovered that regimental command had received the patrol's radio calls for help and to be pulled out but took no immediate action to help. During that time three members of the team were killed and the rest, except one, captured.
At the High Court hearing a colleague on the patrol told Justice Salmon that Soldier Five was the first true account of the expedition.
>>By Chamonixboarders (Friday, 9 May 2003 22:10)
F, May 9 (4:20pm) US
Thank you very much, Chamonixboarders. New page, new start, new friends, okay?
And thank you for the most excellent news that Mike will be able to circumvent the courts! But, for now, though, we just continue to wait and watch, right?
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 9 May 2003 22:27)
we know all this, cham buddy..
>>By scouse (Friday, 9 May 2003 23:00)
You begging Pacemaker?? Don’t get on your knees on my behalf.
If I make a joke.. and only the others will laugh, what’s the point??
Jolly, Jolly
Have a lolly
If you can’t buy, please don’t whine
I will gladly offer you mine
Scouse, about expendable – I was very lucky to have that question through in the chat with Andy, I asked him if hearing ‘to be expendable’ isn’t a slap in the face. Andy answered: “No. I volunteered and it's very simple in the SAS... if you disagree with what you are doing .. get out.... I never did disagree”
Some way of looking at it right?
Hey chamo’s… on your best behaviour – combed your hair? You look great!
Lynn
>>By Lynn (Friday, 9 May 2003 23:36)
But seriously Pacemaker,
I should not have spoken for ‘anyone’, I apologise.
I beg you to accept ;-)
The reason I (!) don’t think his post is offensive is not based on its content but on the tone of the post.
He’s giving his opinion – and especially the last few days when lots of people have been giving their opinions – I think we agreed not to have to agree.
As long as we give our opinions in a civil way – without abusive language.
Lynn
>>By Lynn (Friday, 9 May 2003 23:53)
You spoke to the great man..i'm impressed.but i can picture his face when the CO said expendable,and i'm sure he was wishing he had'nt volunteered then.
So picture the guys, just returned from nearly getting a few chutney ferrets roared up em,when your boss tell's you your not that important after all,,jeezus,no wonder a stream of books came out.
>>By scouse (Friday, 9 May 2003 23:57)
Yes, well saying one thing, meaning another is not uncommon!
Welcome Mi Li. What does Mi Li mean in English?
Lynn
>>By Lynn (Saturday, 10 May 2003 00:04)
Germany, 10.05.03 03:30
What a crowd here !
Scouse talked about contradictory versions of B 2.0, it reminded me of a little treasure I have in my archives ; a review entitled "SAS writing - Andy McNab vs Chris Ryan" by Chris Wood (1998).
At the time it was on :
www.purefiction.com/newrev/reviewsp/sas.htm
If you can't get it there, what is probable, someone copied the whole text on :
www.computercontractor.net/forum/thread.php?t_id=6749&fid=1
I don't think this review has ever been mentioned on board... Pleeeease tell me you don't know it ! I took so much time to find this 'computer' page !
...But don't expect a military analysis or a deep literary study, it's only the view of a guy who says about himself that "3 hours away from food and armchairs constitutes the wild as far as [he's] concerned"... Merciless, and funny. Hope you'll all enjoy it.
>>By Alice (Saturday, 10 May 2003 03:21)
And... Ahem... I think I'm glad to see you again...
>>By Alice (Saturday, 10 May 2003 03:27)
Sa, May 10 (12:15am) US
Oh brother! Thank you, Alice, I had completely forgotten about that article! You're exactly right -- merciless and funny -- the PS had me falling out laughing!
And regarding expendable, Scouse, wait until you read through the BBC Panorama "B20: A Question of Betrayal" program -- that'll set your teeth gnashing for sure! Ratcliffe's comments especially! Or as Lynn calls him RATcliffe...
>>By am-i-binned (Saturday, 10 May 2003 06:45)
mi li mean beautiful blossom in taiwan it beautiful plum in china hong kong. thank you for ask lynn.
i hav cris wood write hav lot andy mcnab talk.
>>By mi li (Saturday, 10 May 2003 08:42)
mi li: check www.gnooks.com/discussion/message+archive.html
>>By mg (Saturday, 10 May 2003 15:44)
just spent last few weeks reading all your reports found very good reading got up off backside to get liberation day our man smith wh sold out hunt it down tomorrow have read most of web site dont these guys know nick stone is fiction you dont bump into this guy in the street andy mcnab is real in the eyes if the work carried out by someone who looks just like him of a differant name in the regiment hell it could even be sean bean no that was major richard sharp everybody get alife and enjoy what you are reading some of it might be real some not
>>By jaffa gib5rgj (Saturday, 10 May 2003 18:44)
hi jaffa...can you translate that for us? :-)
>>By scouse (Saturday, 10 May 2003 19:12)
just enjoy the reading they might be true but parts of them might be fact only one man could tell us and i think he wants us to use our own judgement however there has to be a piont at when we all judge each other and none of us will ever tell it like it is .as for andy mcnab he will spend a long time being the gray man and scouse blue or red
>>By jaffagib5rgj (Saturday, 10 May 2003 20:45)
ah.i see what you mean now..
re blue or red..i'm a red through and through.
>>By scouse (Saturday, 10 May 2003 21:10)
keep up the good work i was stuck to the chair for the last few days reading last light. just when i think wheres it going ,heres comes the next twist some times far fetched would be understated but your work is gripping. when our friend smith ws gets liberation day in i will more than likley starve to death before the end .as from past reads i dont think i will be able to put it down .
all the detail its like being there seeing it feeling the heat and smelling the old butchers shop
>>By jaffagib5rgj (Saturday, 10 May 2003 22:05)
where are you from jaffa?
because your english is really good.
>>By scouse (Saturday, 10 May 2003 23:42)
10/05/03 UK
Good site this,the best i have found so far on Andy Mcnab (real name..Andy mason)
i have skipped to page 18,but i am going back to read from page 1,so expect to hear from me again a few weeks.
keep up the good work.
>>By Billy three wigs (Saturday, 10 May 2003 23:52)
some great names on here..Billy three wigs,got to be a reference to johnny two combs?
>>By scouse (Saturday, 10 May 2003 23:53)
Germany, 11.05.03 01:00
Billy three wigs, what an introduction ! Real name Andy Mason, are you serious ? Where did you get this info ?
>>By Alice (Sunday, 11 May 2003 00:53)
hi Alice.
I like you was intrigued by mr mcnab,so i decided to do my own research,and its amazing what you can find in the military archives.if you remember mcnab was not always in the Sas,and was in the royal green jkt's for six year's,so all i had to do was look for soldiers's names who served in the green jkts from 1977 to 83.the only andy i could find was lance corporal Andy mason.a bit of a coincidence dont you think?
>>By Billy three wigs (Sunday, 11 May 2003 02:00)
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