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Gladly, Scouse!
Three times thru, eh? Then you recog'd the village idiot, didn't you?
Excerpts from World Book Day online chat with AM on March 6, 2003
(http://www.worldbookdayfestival.com/):
Q: How many more books will you write?
A: There are certainly another three planned ... one every year!
Q: When is nick stone coming back?
A: This October - called Dark Winter
Q: Can you tell us what Dark Winter is about
A: It's about a planned attack in London, New York and Berlin, all at the same time with a biological agent... Nick stumbles into the plot... and start to discover what is going on.
Then, keeping in mind how AM incorporates reality into his fiction (Operation Flavius, Sunburn Missiles, Moonlight Maze, Echelon), a little bit of homework came up with this:
The Dark Winter exercise portrayed a FICTIONAL scenario depicting a covert smallpox attack on US citizens. The scenario is set in three successive National Security Council (NSC) meetings (Segments 1,2 and 3) which take place over a period of 14 days. Former senior government officials played the roles of NSC members responding to the evolving epidemic; representatives from the media were among the observers of these mock NSC meetings and played journalists during the scenario's press conferences (see Participant List). The exercise itself was held at Andrews Air Force Base, Washington, D.C. on June 22-23, 2001.
http://www.hopkins-biodefense.org/darkwinter.html
http://www.homelandsecurity.org/darkwinter/index.cfm
And fanx for recog of my name....vbg....
>>By am-i-binned (Wednesday, 7 May 2003 19:09)
Holland, May 7th – can’t seem to leave today
Hello Scouse, welcome and enjoy our show.
Am-I-Binned: reading Firewall 3 times to recognise the village idiot?? Won’t take that much!
Scouse, If you like Andy’s books.. we have now 17 pages of discussion – you will find it interesting to go through our pages sometimes. Bet you find some answers, like the info on Dark Winter but also more info that will explain Am-I-Binned being far too sociable to walk around playing boss.
Chamo’x, what happened to the British soldier after showing his bravery?
Lynn
>>By Lynn (Wednesday, 7 May 2003 21:16)
W, May 7 (3:15pm) US
Hello again, Scouse.
Ooops! Poof! You've come at a time when we've got some strange dynamics going on in the postings here, Scouse; it's not usually like this at all! If you read back, you'll see what I mean. I do have your post copied into my own files, so if you'd like to edit and repost, let me know offboard (email4gnod@aol.com) and I'll send it back to you.
Please persevere and stay with us. As the disruptive forces are quelled, the likelihood of deletion will diminish proportionately.
>>By am-i-binned (Wednesday, 7 May 2003 21:30)
hey mg, am- i binned just called me a poof :-)
sorry guys,i have just got in from work, and i'm frazzled,so will read the above pages in great detail tommorow.
>>By scouse (Wednesday, 7 May 2003 21:43)
Well, true, but I guess I also called you an Ooops, so does that offset a Poof? But are you now telling us your name is Frazzled? Okay, come clean, who are you really! Not a K, are you? (vbg, vbw)
>>By am-i-binned (Wednesday, 7 May 2003 21:55)
England 7th May 20.34
Wow, looks like i have stumbled across a great site at the best time!!!
Sorry i think this may be a long one...
This is my first posting, not sure of the guidelines, i wont swear or abuse anyone else's postings....just wanted to say i have a increasing fasination with the SAS and all that goes with it.
Through reading all your previous posts it seems that (im presuming of course) some of you are/have experienced/know people in and around the SAS....just want to say if thats true, im impressed, in awe and have true admiration for you all....no im not a girl (although that doesnt matter, we are in the year 2003!!!) i just see the extreme efforts you put on yourselves, the limts you go to, the pressure and responsibility you bear. Im also proud, proud of my country and proud we, through you, have the copyright on you guys!!! And if people blame AM for bringing this attention to you, then fair enough, but as much as he may have 'sold' trade secrets (which, im again presuming, he hasnt done to such an extent that in unduely increases the risk, more than the risk you guys face daily...especially in that killing house!!!) he's given fans like us satisfaction.
I know its an AM board but if anyone can help with this question please do. Is Soldier 5 going to be / has been published. I stumbled across this site looking for a copy of it or info on it. Please help.
Also ive been intrigued by chamonixboarders (i think thats right, apologies if it isnt) postings. As ive said, yes AM and CR can be 'blamed' for selling secrets / bringing undue attention but what about everyone else. It seems every new book i read on the arena of the SAS gives more and more away....AM, CR, Barry Davies, Peter Ratcliffe, Ken Conner, Gaz Hunter, Duncan Faulconer (SBS), Lofty Wiseman (he gave the survival handbook for G**'s sake!) Michael Asher, even non SAS people - Steve Collins (SO19), TV programmes - the 'god' like Eddie Stone in 'SAS Are you Tough Enough...the list is endless....where's the critiscm for these people?
People like me who read these books know some of it is 'artistic licence' but most of it is based on true 'experiences'. Maybe they jumped on the wagon AM started? Maybe that is enough for the criticsm? I dont know.... Of course those who have lived this life will have different points of view, please dont chastise us for waht boils down to pure admiration with a bit of fasination thrown in!
Thanks for reading, thought i would join in....hope i havnt said anything too outrageous and hopefully this will get posted.
Happy to read replies....
cpm
>>By cpm (Wednesday, 7 May 2003 21:57)
Well, we hardly know each other Scouse, but already we got something in common: we both got poofed. Harry Potter could not keep up if he wanted too.
You have the humour we like Scouse. Come back soon, we hope you like the former pages.
Lynn
(boy, are we giving you a tough job today MG, my apologies)
>>By Lynn (Wednesday, 7 May 2003 21:58)
Hi Bleo (really late, really sorry), Scouse and Cpm. If you're looking for infos about McNab - and SAS - you're in the right place. Here are some experts... (not me, I'm afraid).
Am-i-binned, thanks for your list of *quotations*, I had a really good time with it !
>>By Alice (Wednesday, 7 May 2003 22:40)
W, May 7 (4:50pm) US
Welcome, cpm!
Very glad you found us! Already you've demonstrated one of the most common qualities exhibited here -- a long, long posting! Here, gobby is good!
So, now, three new excellent additions to our little gang! Bleo, Scouse, and now cpm! Temporary detractors aside (quelled already?, too easy!), F Troop must be doing something right...
cpm, regarding Soldier 5, we're pretty much all in the same place -- waiting and watching, still no sign; but we have an ISBN, and that's a start!
>>By am-i-binned (Wednesday, 7 May 2003 22:56)
hi.couldn't resist a peek,before i get my head down.i have decided to start last light again.it is not my obvious fave,but it'll have to do,i can't read IM again,cause i'll have no choice but to get my bergen on and get up to brecon,gut hanging over my jeans and all.
ps.Am-i-B see you in lynns office,no coffee(is it still lynn,icant,remember)
>>By scouse (Wednesday, 7 May 2003 23:13)
Back again.
forgot to mention,i have also started sabre squadron,by cameron spence,and from what i have read so far,it sounds a bit tasty.there's a few references to AM,says he's a wiry cockney sparrer,but a good mate.
>>By scouse (Wednesday, 7 May 2003 23:17)
Hi ladies, I am ex reg. A lying cheating killing machine.
On selection a recruit SNCO would often say "Who 'cheats' wins". He told us of many accounts of this, even the corners cut by him. Having said that, he also said "nobody fails battle camp"!
In many lectures, the two lads either side of me would have been asleep if I hadn't nudged them to keep them awake. They were both 'badged' at the end of the course!
I should have appeared to look like a team player in front of the DS, but inside I had a 'Jack' attitude and failed selection first time.
It makes me laugh, when I think of all the lazy gits the DS actually let in. Don't get me wrong, there were some good lads, but all of the dickheads I got to know well were 'badged'.
On my second run the SNCO was a jock bastard who pushed you to drop dead zero. I simply could not move at one point even after cheating like f**k and thought that's it platform 4 face down. He said you'll do. I was in because I had cheated same as the bastards who had cheated on the first run while I worked it straight down the line.
I can tell you I am personally flattered by your enthusiasm for all things Andy Mcnab and SAS, but give Chamonixboarders some slack. They will never be in a position to sell personal memoirs or to write novels loosely linked to the regiment. To be in the SAS they had no option but to agree to sign the officials secrets act. Treat the lads kindly we owe them much.
For your reference Reed publishers have dropped Soldier 5, but it may well find a publisher in the Soviet bloc.
take care tread lightly
>>By pacemaker (Thursday, 8 May 2003 01:11)
Th, May 8 (12:10am) US
Uh-oh, Scouse -- Being called into Lynn's office with no coffee! Who's in the s**t? You or me? I could understand no biscuits for bad jokes, but geez, whadwedo?
Hey, wait, which Lynn? Baldilocks retired around February 2000 after that Moonlight Maze stuff, think he's raising jumped-on mushrooms somewhere. He got replaced by that pain-in-the-a**s Yes Man, Frampton. So, you must mean Lynn, our rep in Holland. I can't believe we couldn't wangle at least a few nibbles and brew. In fact, if we play our cards right, there might even be a bbq. Besides Lynn's already told you you've got the right sense of humour! Good sign, very good sign. VBG!
>>By am-i-binned (Thursday, 8 May 2003 06:17)
For sale: parachute. Only used once, never opened, small stain. Namer tag.......
We got a gut stink this board is persona non grata for the regiment?
Excuse us ma'am |Am-i-binned| you said ~But maybe you could also explain how there is the glory and honor in verbally abusing "girls" (as you call us) simply because we admire someone, someone who has actually given us a greater appreciation of you....~
We didn't get telling you nowt about what you was thinking about Mcnab nor us. It were you who told us what you was thinking. We agree we dropped into this LITTLE pool of wisdom and said don't believe every thing Mcnab writes down. You had a problem with that. And all of a sudden you women leaped on us with right unfriendly hints and accusations. Now you figure questions got to be answered to prove to you who we are. We know who we are. We don't know any of you. And you ought to know if you read Mcnab we won't oblige you. Messrs Chamonixboarders decline Am-i-binned's invitation to private chat.
After all is said and done we weren't expecting female camp followers of Mcnab's to pelt us with hostile venom. Can we get to Mcnab's ass wipes now and clean up all this crap you've laid on us?
You want humour come on over to Credhill we'll give you humour. Two cows standing next to each other in a field, Daisy said to Dolly 'I was artificially inseminated this morning.'
'I don't believe you,' said Dolly
'It's true, straight up, no Mcnab bull!' (Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:54)
Germany, 08.05.03 10:00
Hi Pacemaker, glad to see you here.
I'd love to say more about our animal's friend but I'm afraid of the punishment hat.
>>By Alice (Thursday, 8 May 2003 10:02)
Alice the Unwritten Rules of SAS Men is go for it.
1. Any Man who brings a camera to a stag night may be legally killed and buried by his fellow partygoers.
2. Under no circumstances may two men share an umbrella.
3. It is ok for a man to cry under the following circumstances:
a. When aheroic dog dies to save it's master
b. The moment Angelina Jolie starts unbuttoning her blouse
c. After wrecking your boss' car.
d. One hour, 12 minutes, 37 seconds into "The Crying Game". e. When your Date is using herteeth
4. Unless he murdered someone in your family, you must bail a friend out of jail within 12 hours.
5. If you've known a guy for more than 24 hours, his sister is off limits forever, unless you actually marry her.
6. The minimum amount of time you have to wait for a guy who's running late is 5 minutes. Maximum waiting time: 6 minutes. For a girl, you have to wait 10 minutes for every point of hotness she scores on the classic 1-10 scale.
7. Bitching about the brand of free beer in a Mate's fridge is forbidden. Gripe at will if the temperature is unsuitable.
8. No man shall ever be required to buy a birthday present for another man (in fact, even remembering your Mate's birthday is strictly optional).
9. On a road trip, the strongest bladder determines pit stops, not the weakest.
10. When stumbling upon other guys watching a sporting event, you may always ask the score of the game in progress, but you may never ask who's playing.
11. You may flatulate in front of a woman only after you have brought her to climax. If you trap her head under the covers for the purpose of flatulent entertainment, she's officially your girlfriend.
12. It is permissible to quaff a fruity chick drink only when you're sunning on a tropical beach... and it's delivered by a topless supermodel... and it's free.
nice talking but must get on with penning dark number.
>>By pacemaker (Thursday, 8 May 2003 10:18)
Th, May 8 (4:20am) US
Good grins and chuckles, Pacemaker! Welcome back; it's been quite a while since you were last here. Why did you leave, where have you been, and what's brought you back? Must say, I'm surprised to realize how many regular joes seem to emulate the unwritten rules of SAS men! Must just come naturally! VBG!
>>By am-i-binned (Thursday, 8 May 2003 10:36)
Holland, May 8
Hello cpm (how much cpm ?)
Re: I wont swear or abuse anyone else's postings.
Neither do we………. usually. You did get here at a weird time. And started so polite, you’ve nothing to fear from us. And indeed, please gobby away – we’ll like it.
Re: Scouse - Whether it’s still Lynn I don’t know, depends indeed on who you’re talking to. But I do serve coffee if you like. With orange cake if required.
Re: Pacemaker – are you the same Pacemaker from the first page? About the The fine RED, WHITE and BLUE ? And/or a lying cheating killing machine ???? Do we have to fear you?
Why do have to go to Credhill for your humour – poster without name – can’t you give it to us here?
Am-I-Binned: the unwritten ‘go for it’ Tom Riddles diary ???
Pacemaker:
1. What if there’s no film in the camera?
2. Who remains dry, the strongest?
3. using her teeth .. never diner on a date then ?
4. what if the family member is yourself?
5. What about his brother? Would you have to marry him too?
6. So you’d really wait 10 minutes for a girl who only got a 1?
7. Damn fridges, never work right, right?
8. Never thought you’d let go of a chance to have a party
9. Explains why men always have empty bottles lying around in their car
10. You said they were watching so who would be playing
11. Not anymore she won’t
12. Why you want to drink when a free topless supermodel delivers you a tropical beach.
What’s penning dark number?
A confused Lynn
>>By Lynn (Thursday, 8 May 2003 12:18)
Th, May 8 (6:55am) US
And we're off! (in more ways than one....)
Really big chuckles now, Lynn! In fine form today, I must say! ;o)
Low profile for me today (unless via library's public access), much rippin' & runnin' to be done to make up for yesterday's festivities...
>>By am-i-binned (Thursday, 8 May 2003 12:57)
What a nice good manners' guide, Pacemaker ! Could'nt say more than Lynn.
By the way, Lynn, I think we should talk about what you exactly put into these orange cakes...
Am-i-binned, when do you sleep ? Just for today I'd like to borrow from you this gentle english expression :
Take care
>>By Alice (Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:08)
re: Buddy
Regards to your post WAY on page eleven about Robert Nirac. This is what I know:
He apparantly was NOT SAS, but a member of the FRU (Force Research Unit) The FRU gained a rather nefarious reputation when they tried to carry-out a bogus laundry service known as Four Squares; their purpose was to gather forensic evidence from clothing. Pretty smart, huh? Anyway, that FRU unit was ambushed in the Juniper Park area of Twinbrook, in Belfast in 1974. It has been widely believed that this was an operation carried out by Bobby Sand's unit. But that is mere speculation.
Niarac was born a Catholic in Northern Ireland and after joining the Army and getting into the FRU, he went deep undercover to break up IRA cells. For awhile, his plan was working. Then apparantly after having a bit much to drink with some Republicans, either someone got a bad vibe from him or he said the wrong thing. A fight broke out outside the pub. There was one IRA man present who had a pistol. I am told he later joined the INLA (I also heard that this was Dominic McGlinchey, but who knows?) Niarac was beated pretty badly by a gang of Republicans, mostly teenagers and he was then bundled into a car to be taken for interrogation.
The IRA attempted for several hours to interrogate him, promising medical help if he complied. Niarac never said a word. In fact, one of the Provos present admitted "He was a damned fine soilder; he told us nothing. He was a very brave man." Niarac later died from internal injuries due to the excessive beating he recieved outside the pub.
His body was then given to a group of three or four men not in the IRA. The injuries he sustained were in fact so horrendous, the group were too afraid to leave his body at a hospital and he was instead taken across the border to Dundalk where one of the men had an uncle who operated a sausage factory. Niarac's body was then ground up in a sausage grinder and fed to pigs.
How true this is, I don't know. I have been told this same story by several reliable people and this seems to be the "offical" word on his fate. Personally, I find whole deal pretty disgusting.
I hope this clears up your question, though.
>>By Fenian Bastard (Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:22)
I hope that didn't gross-out or offend anyone
>>By Fenian Bastard (Thursday, 8 May 2003 17:25)
I have a feeling there are large advertising-pillars out there saying
COME VISIT GNOD.ANDY MCNAB
Boy, do we have company these days.....
Fenian B, a few pages pack you would read Buddy is taking a break – maybe you can find her elsewhere on the Net.
You weren't McNab's greatest fan as I recall right.
Y ou didn't gross-out or offend anyone with your post about Nairac, so... did you come in peace?
Lynn
>>By Lynn (Thursday, 8 May 2003 21:01)
Oooh, the orange cakes Alice.....
why do think I keep mentioning them
But - if I tell you - I have to kill you.
Now that would be a shame for the board. Wouldn't want
to lose you now - at least I can pass that punishment on to
you every once in a while ;-)
Lynn
>>By Lynn (Thursday, 8 May 2003 21:11)
Why do YOU think
punishment HAT - Alice
a few pages Back - Fenian
pffff I should take a break to but I don't have any glue
>>By Lynn (Thursday, 8 May 2003 21:15)
Anyone wish to leave the trash behind can ask, am-I-binned, she knows the way!!!
>>By DTO (Friday, 9 May 2003 00:01)
Facts Fenian Bastard facts!
Capt R. Nairac "disappeared" c1977 not as you said in 1974.
Guards officer seconded SAS further to intelligence.
You jolly along here in tones of SAS humour Lynn and laugh and say you love everything Andy Mcnab. Like he's the best ever and all that crap, then you say Fenian Bastard's post does not offend.
I beg to differ.
Why not tell us a sick joke about Nairac. See if you can make the others laugh.
>>By pacemaker (Friday, 9 May 2003 09:38)
hello,
i am student taiwan. come england soon.
i hope my letter help pacemaker some way in ease your pain. my english not good too. I learn internet. study english history. lot of interest in mr mcnab.
want lot of friend
mi li
Death of a Hero by John Parker: Captain Robert Nairac GC (posthumous)
The tragic story of Captain Robert Nairac's abduction and murder by the IRA in 1977 has until now been shrouded in mystery. At last John Parker's compelling biography uncovers the truth of Nairac's secret war and heroic death.
Drawing on unprecedented first hand accounts from senior army colleagues and I RA sources, John Parker reveals answers to the questions that have haunted the imagination for so long
mi li again. this people say for me.
Peter
Just finished reading this book. I would thoroughly recomend this book for anyone wanting an insight into British military intelligence in Northern Ireland in the early to mid 1970s. Robert Nairac was a brave soldier who pushed himself to the limits. The IRA kidnapped and tortured him but he gave away nothing. The paperback version is a revised edition and has further interviews with people who knew Nairac. The book destroys some myths that he was involved in murdering of innocents. I guess when someone is dead they can hardly defend themselves. Robert Nairac had an affinity with the Irish people, he really believed he could make a difference, in some ways he was similar to TE Lawerence. It saddens me he never received a proper burial as his body was never returned.
Andy Buchanan
As an ex Grenadier, I found this book to be very revealing about a man who is part of my Regiments folklore. It is well written and presents sensible augument from both sides of the coin about Nairac, and his activities in South Armargh . I would, and have recommended this book to many people.
I have this for you
http://www.irlnet.com/aprn/archive/1999/April01/01iras.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/338183.stm
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/front/1999/0528/fro1.htm
>>By mi li (Friday, 9 May 2003 10:48)
i am read liberation day
have bavo two zero
>>By mi li (Friday, 9 May 2003 10:51)
Germany, 09.05.03 14:10
Hello Mi li and welcome back FB. Thanks for your kindness on this stormy day.
>>By Alice (Friday, 9 May 2003 14:03)
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