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i wish I'd had paper - but the voice they gave him was funny as!
>>By Pomplemous (Wednesday, 29 Oct 2003 14:31)
I read that and he was saying that a car accident is too unpredictable and how he would do it. The only bit I remember well was that Uno comment, so funny. Remind me never to piss that man off.....
>>By Bethan (Wednesday, 29 Oct 2003 14:40)
Uhm, just to clarify a bit regarding the rampant rumors about Elvis and Di...
http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/
story_page/0,5936,7662069%255E912,00.html
"As The Times observed: 'We want to draw an arrow from A to K, to believe exceptional lives end exceptionally.... Elvis? He's not even dead.'
But look closer, say the Dianafiles, there are too many 'coincidences' to dismiss the death as a mere accident.
Andy McNab, a former SAS commando trained in assassination techniques, says several factors rule out a conspiracy. Firstly, 'If death by car accident was a plan it was a spectacularly bad one,' he told the London Sun. 'I'd have sacked anyone suggesting it.'
Secondly, far too many people would need to have been involved. Thirdly, plotters would have had to have their own phoney medical team standing by and finally, 'If you want to force an armour-plated Mercedes off the road and into a pillar you are not going to do it with a Fiat Uno!'
And, in this one, the reporter is getting input from famous crime authors on Diana's doing in:
http://www.megastar.co.uk/meganews/news/
2003/10/22/sMEG01MTA2NjgxMzgzMjQ.html:
"... But we're distracted from our audience with [Patricia] Cornwell by a man in a flak jacket and beret, scampering along the Alma tunnel in Paris.
We have no idea what former SAS solider-turned-writer Andy McNab looks like, but we bet that’s him.
Trained in 'assassination techniques' by his country, McNab has done a recce of the crash scene and now reveals his opinions to the Sun.
'There were easier ways to kill Diana and make it look like an accident,' he says."
>>By am-i-binned (Wednesday, 29 Oct 2003 15:41)
"Firstly, 'If death by car accident was a plan it was a spectacularly bad one,' he told the London Sun. 'I'd have sacked anyone suggesting it."
Ahem,
I do know that not all operations were succesfull...so to say it couldn't have been a conspiracy AND a mayor screw up...
;o)
>>By Lynn (Wednesday, 29 Oct 2003 15:55)
and I shouldn't be talking if I can''t even spell it right. Meant - of course - to say "major screw up" Buuuuuuut maybe it's not even such bad spelling hehe ;o)
>>By Lynn (Wednesday, 29 Oct 2003 16:03)
Oh no! The Mayor was involved too?
Smack! Ouch!
Sorry, Lynn... :o$
>>By am-i-binned (Wednesday, 29 Oct 2003 16:10)
eeer, eh, well.. you know.. something you better don't.... eeer..
..let's just... eeeerr.... well...I suppose you could... or maybe..
(if I keep talking like this I might just as well run for governor of....)
>>By Lynn (Wednesday, 29 Oct 2003 16:21)
giggle
>>By Pomplemous (Wednesday, 29 Oct 2003 17:09)
re:diana
the butler did it!
re:pics
oops, forgot to add reserve into the original posting... I'm in the reserve atm, so those pictures are not that flammable. All the equipment shown on the pictures are well known to everyone, you can even buy field manuals of them from ebay i think. No military installations were shown, so i guess national security was not breached.
All persons on the pictures, with the exception of our instructors are also in the reserve. In fact the pictures were
taken by one of our instructors, and they have undergone scrutiny by the defence force.
oh... btw, we're back up and running...
-trident
>>By trident (Wednesday, 29 Oct 2003 17:23)
Uh-oh... uhm, Trident, are you sure about being back up and running?
>>By am-i-binned (Wednesday, 29 Oct 2003 18:33)
works here...
>>By trident (Wednesday, 29 Oct 2003 19:14)
Ooops! Sorry, Trident, I was using the wrong link. Awesome pictures and some really good laughs at the caption titles (especially the B-U-S series)!
>>By am-i-binned (Wednesday, 29 Oct 2003 19:37)
Dear Ortlieb,
Tell me more about that stress position. Sounds very interesting;)
Dear Pomplemous,
Sorry. I didn't mean to be grouchy. From now on I won't say a word against CR anymore :)
>>By Lethe (Wednesday, 29 Oct 2003 23:45)
Trident
Loved the pictures, they weren't real casualties were they? It's early I'm allowed to be thick in the morning.
>>By Bethan (Thursday, 30 Oct 2003 09:34)
Hmmm... Well, Lethe, then I most definitely owe apologies too cuz you certainly captured my own thoughts within yours...
Re: Spooks (aka MI5, for us politically correct Yanks)...
Am I losing something in the editing? I have seen through episode 9 now, and I still have no bonding whatsoever with any of these folks -- I'm merely a voyeur as they go through the motions (and rather forced motions at that, from where I sit). I know the US version is missing about 15 minutes due to evil commercial breaks, but how insidiously clever of A&E to manage to edit out only those scenes which might make me sorta give a damn.... {Gasp} Ooops, maybe I am grouchier than I thought -- better hold off on mentioning implausibility... :o$
>>By am-i-binned (Thursday, 30 Oct 2003 11:02)
AIB
You've missed the whole point of Spooks (a.k.a MI5!) it's not the story, it's the delicious Tom ha ha. Are you on the 1st or 2nd series? The 2nd series wasn't as good as the first by a big margin, but if it's the 1st then stop watching now, you'll hate the 2nd even more. I have to say when I've been to the US of A the ads drive me up the wall, answer me something, why do they show then opening credits and then go to a break? Aaaaggggghhhh. It's like the clicking it never stops ha ha.
>>By Bethan (Thursday, 30 Oct 2003 12:01)
Well trident, I'm fed up. I tried everything. I must have a prehistoric computer. That wave sign just doesn't come up. I only have the ctrl and the ^ and ì sign no waves anywhere. I'm a real wanker.
I'm gone....
>>By borisette (Thursday, 30 Oct 2003 13:28)
i get the ~ by 'alt-gt and the "^ ¨ ~" button, located to the left of the enter key
on american keyboards, it's found on the left of the "1" key...
shift + that should do the trick, otherwise you can copypaste it from here ~ ~ ~
>>By trident (Thursday, 30 Oct 2003 14:08)
hi everyone
just been reading above about diana and wot puzzles me is:-
the media were in hot pursuit they even had footage at the beginning of the chase but no footage of the crash in fact how long woz it till they arrived at crash scene!
And surely people as rich and as important as diana an dido would be employing ex special forces to chauffer(is that how you spell it)drive them! yet are man has a drug problem n two bottles of wine inside him ! hmmmm!
And wot about getaway driving techniques ?
have you ever seen a uno! a uno i ask ya might as well gone the whole hog and used a mini ! cos this little motor caused a great bombproof bulletproof mercedes to crash fatally and all done underground away from prying eyes or satellites even!
As MrMcNab said(and i aint knocking AM hes abetter man than i'll ever be) "if death by car accident woz a plan it woz a spectacularly bad one" maybe but effective in fact the success rate woz phenominal.
And as for "there would have been too many people involved" i say to you three letters JFK
Maybe it had to be spectacular to be plausible
Or is that just crazy talk
i reckon the man on the grassy knoll did it!!!!
>>By roomservice (Thursday, 30 Oct 2003 15:02)
No Lethe!! Mate - I dont mean YOU and I couldnt give a Castlemaine XXXX for Chris Ryan - never read or watched the bloke, but there was a definite dangerous tone floating around a few pages back.
and trident's pictures earlier - I think IO missed something there
2 DAYS TO GO TIL BIRTHDAY GIRL!!!!!!!!!!! YEYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>By Pomplemous (Thursday, 30 Oct 2003 16:57)
Hi, Bethan...
It's not that I "hate" the series (Ep 9, Season 2 per website), it's just that the writers seem so preoccupied with maximum spyspeaktechnobabble that everyone ends up cardboardy, even eye-candy Tom. Delivering complex "insider lingo" lines along with the accompanying translation for the non-spyspeak audience seems to leave very little room for character development or true acting. Most of the time, the scowls, growls, sighs, tears, anxious, fearful, and furtive looks are too formulaic... I care more about the plot twists than I do about the characters. Although, I'm not totally heartless -- in Ep 2, S1, I did cringe for the french fried girl. Smack! (Self-slap!--sheesh, at this rate, maybe I'd best forget about discussing implausibility!) :o)
Happy almost-Birthday, Pomplemous!
And since you didn’t mean Lethe, does that mean I can take back my apology, too? Whaddayamean I have an attitude about Spooks?!? Oh yeah, you’re right, okay, nevermind…
Hey, Roomservice...
What would happen if Oliver Stone got involved? Maybe his movie could be "Di, the True JFK Story" (just effin' killed?), with maybe Kevin Costner as the investigative would-be lawyer bodyguard Trevor Rees-Jones, aka the other one who got away...? ;oP
>>By am-i-binned (Thursday, 30 Oct 2003 17:47)
Oh come on now guys!!!!!
Diana had an accident and Oswald killed JFK.
You bunch of DISBELIEVERS !!! Have some faith on your government !!
;o)
>>By Lynn (Thursday, 30 Oct 2003 22:37)
Hi all.
Sorry if I'll go off tracks from the latest discussion -Lady Diana- but I'd like to ask something, although there are mix feelings involved. At the beginning of this Iraqi war, the CNN has filmed an unique sequence (they've shown not more than 10 seconds of it), that I personally didn't consider as important because I've not met Mr Andy in that period (His books, to be precise!); that brief sequence rewinded and played so many times in my head I'm surprised my MCR (Mental reCordeR) didn't flip... yet!
I've tried seeking it in the web too, in case someone has decided to make it available, but no luck so far. Or isn't it better this way?
The brief sequence is about a gun fight between an SAS and the Talibans; he was shooting with a Minimi (or SAW) from a roof. I'm sure all -well, most- of you have seen it, I did: my MCR's smoking right now. But after a day or two the video was not aired anymore, and was wondering if for security reasons or simply because it's "old news", I dunno.
I'd be glad to see it again, even if it's for just, say, ten seconds, but in the same time... I feel sad about it because his face is TOTALLY exposed, and you can see how concentrated he is (damn it, he's fighting like hell, poor soul, while I'm here just watching!).
My question is: does anyone know any link to that film?
I hate this bitter-sweet feelings!... "To ask, or not to ask? To ask, or not to ask? And if there is any link, how would you feel to see him again?" I'll feel honoured! Malinchonic! Surprised! Bitter. Happy! Malinchonic again.
Darn...
>>By Deusrexmachina (Friday, 31 Oct 2003 01:11)
Deus
I think I know what you mean, over here Channel 4 showed a programme The Real SAS Story and that featured the shoot-out between Taliban and the SAS. It may be the same one. SAS guys so busy fighting they never noticed the cameraman filming. Very eye opening.
Pomplemous
Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, i saw a big fat monkey and i thought it was you ha ha. 21 again eh?
AIB
Most of the time, the scowls, growls, sighs, tears, anxious, fearful, and furtive looks are too formulaic. I do understand that, I just wish that Zoe and Danny(? can't remember if that is his name) would just get on with and jump into bed!! That bugs the life out of me all those little glances. See I'm grumpy too.
>>By Bethan (Friday, 31 Oct 2003 10:01)
Hi all. :)
For Borisette: Trident reminded me of an e-mail I've done for myself and saved in the desktop. No, I didn't go nuts in writing to myself, it's just a "pro-memoria" for all the symbols the keyboard has but aren't visible. Since I've recently formatted half hard-disk... that letter's gone. Here are the symbols anyway:
Ç ü é â ä à å ç ê ë è ï î ì Ä Å É æ Æ ô ö ò û ù ÿ Ö Ü ø £ Ø × ƒ á í ó ú ñ Ñ ª º ¿ ® ¬ ½ ¼ ¡ « » _ ¦ Á Â À © ¢ ¥ ã Ã ¤ ð Ð Ê Ë È i Í Î Ï Ì Ó ß Ô Ò õ Õ µ þ Þ Û Ù ý Ý ¯ ´ ± _ ¾ ¶ § ÷ ¸ ÿ ¨ · ¹ ³ ²
It's easy: all you need is 1) patience and 2) trying not to go nuts for ten minutes while you press the "Alt Tab" button with all the right keyboard buttons that give almost all three hundred combinations. 'Almost' since some combinations bring the same results.
To be less cryptic, here's an example.
Press the "Alt Tab" button and 126, release, and voilà = ~
Alt Tab + 251 = ¹
Alt Tab + 253 = ²
... and so on!
Well, the symbols are ready; all you've to do is copy it and then paste & save it in the desktop in an e-mail, or even a blocknote.
Hope it'll be usefull for someone. :)
For Bethan: I'll try seek out Channel 4 from Google; hope there's something...
Hey, happy birthday to Pomplemous! How many dynamites-disguised-as-candels must you huff & puff to BLOW OUT from your cake before it goes boooom? VBS
A question to all.
Has anyone ever had the sensation to have met an SAS patrol?
Some years ago I've tried doing the night university in Padua -engineering- while working full time, but miserably flipped out from it after too much agony. I live around 60 kms from there and traveled with the train; there is no direct trip to Padua unless you use the Eurostar (paying much more, of course!), and I normally have to stop in Mestre's station to than change train. One evening, I can't recall if I've lost the usual train or there was a delay, I was in Mestre for a longer period, and after a while one of the many wagons opened up for the embarking passengers. Well, a particularly big group was barking out loud once they've step foot of the wagon; it was the first time I've had encountered Scottish football fans... for a while I thought they were hooligans, hearing them yelling from one railtrack to another. The group was decorated with flapping flags wide as my bedspread, although they didn't have my same Sesame Street figures printed (and sure didn't want to remark this to them!). Actually I found it quite amusing 'cause I've never heard this type of accent: sounded Scottish I think, but I may be wrong. Yelling: "Hey mate, whatcha doing there?". Yelling back: "Havin' ay pint of beer!", or something like that.
The smallest of them was half head taller than me, while the others were walking closets. Istinctively I've help them with the rail & hour board since there's no English translation here -what's new?- and it was nice experience too! Well, we didn't exchange addresses nor e-mails (I didn't have the PC then.), but they were polite; rumbling, but polite. At the end they finally got the train they needed to head for the football match. Which one? I dunno: I don't like soccer!
This flashbacked in my head a few days ago when I've remembered what Mr Andy wrote in "Immediate Action": a whole SAS patrol could be disguised as a university group florking around, and no one would guess that. Yes, I don't think they would expose themselves AT ALL like these Scottish Dream Men, but was just wondering... I mean, who knows?! Or is it me exaggerating as always? :(
And for you, any "I wonder" stories to tell?
:)
>>By Deusrexmachina (Saturday, 1 Nov 2003 02:10)
good morning all
a couple of months ago i got roped into doing a freefall parachute jump for a local kiddies hospital . don't ask must have had a rush to head that day but think of the little ones !
anyways there woz a cock up an instead of jumping from a local airfield we had to go nearly 200 miles south we woz there for 8 am we had been told we'd be away for 9.30am. well anyway it turns out the red arrows who we were jumping with had no say over this airfield and the people who's field it were said we could jump from there but we had to fit round them fair enough .
well anyway about 12 noon this plane comes over nothing to do with this airfield an i'm talking miles high in the sky well we're looking and suddenly we see dots and these dots are linking up into dots of threes anyway chutes open and how the others were landing softly on their feet these lads were hurtling towards the ground as though they were gunna go through it and at last minute they are landing like they're on a sunday stroll all dressed in black except one in white.
anyway its 1pm now and theres only me and my mate left to jump we're fed up hungry basically pissed off.
instructor gives me a shout to get geared up , so i'm in hangar and theres about 8 lads sat on these tables talking to my instructor taking the piss out of him n me an we're generally having crack! as we're walking out i sez they seem a good bunch of lads and thats when he tells me they were sas lads , swear down you'd have passed them in street and thought nowt of it , just normal looking young lads but if you looked close odd uns had that vacant look if you know wot i mean.
well we boarded on plane and them lads got on as well and jumped .
might have been starving hungry bored out my brains but wot a rush doing a parachute jump with the sas thats one for grandkids!
oh yeh and the one in white woz norwegian spec forces
>>By roomservice (Saturday, 1 Nov 2003 09:12)
HEY BABIES!! Thank you so much for your sweetnesses!! I was (and still am) 27 now! It was a quiet day - just with uncle and sat with a few j's, beers, card games, food, cake, chatter. it was nice then home with a chinese takeaway which i fed to the cat - mostlly and then bed. was going to go out with my bestie but she had had an argument with her bloke so I fdidnt want to be in the middle of that kind of tension so went home. but was recovering fmor the other night anyway - any SAS coverticity (is that a word? it is now!) was blown by my getting ratted, dancing on the bar, singing with the live band, getting the whole bar ro suck in helium and sing Baby Jane with the band - aw man!!! falling down some stairs APPARENTLY but I refuse to believe that as I have no pains nor bruises nor memory of that. oh dear oh dear!!!
>>By Pomplemous (Sunday, 2 Nov 2003 16:27)
Glad you had a nice birthday, 27 getting old hehe! The helium trick is always a winner, one of my childish personal favourites.
Just a quickie, have any of you read First Into Action? SBS book, nice read, although he's a little dull at times but this line really made me laugh. Those SBS guys can't stand their SAS friends.
He's talking about the Gulf (one that is).
"The SAS were acting like a bunch of soccer hooligans leaping all over the desert looking for someone to bash and getting lost in the process"
Classic. One other little bit of info - the patrol leader that refused to leave the C130, was actually SBS, not SAS. Interesting. That's all.
>>By Bethan (Sunday, 2 Nov 2003 20:21)
www.booksattransworld.co.uk/catalog/
extract.htmcommand=search&db=
twmain.txt&eqisbndata=0593050258
For an extract of Dark Winter. I have given myself a huge pat on the back, well done me, a good morning's work. Now I just need the Post Office to get back to work and I can read the rest of it.
>>By Bethan (Monday, 3 Nov 2003 09:33)
Thanks Bethan ! While still waiting for DW to arrive (deeeep sigh) I was pleased to read 'just' the extract.
So your cover name is Suzy? ;o)
>>By Lynn (Monday, 3 Nov 2003 10:43)
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