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Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 ... 297 (Australia- 2339hrs, 27/02/03) The four Corners documentary was quite good. Mal (Stan in the book) was interviewed about the mission details. The official story from MoD was that they never recieved any transmissions from the squad, however the journos were granted permission to see the Regiment log book & there were several messages recieved. Andy McNab had got through with his TACBE and the messages recieved were: "B20 -possible compromise, request extraction", then later on "B20 compromised, request immediate extraction!" . A rescue Chinook was on standby but it didn't fly out for another 4 days I think it was. Mal was saying he remembered seeing Andy on the TACBE, and explained how they were waiting for the chopper that never arrived. Apparently there was near mutiny on the base when no rescue attempt was launched.
He spoke about how the team was split purely by accident/mistake. Then he goes on to talk about how he & Chris left Vince to die in the snow storm. Anyway, he continues to say about what happened when he was caught & tortured and what happened when they were released at the end of the war.
Mal was totally dumbstruck when the head of the Regiment opened a bottle of grog to welcome them home, then told them not to worry as he wouldn't court-martial them. He then told the squad they were expendible and he'd happily expend a squad for a scud.
The men were shocked & disgusted. The show interviewed Mike Coburn (Mark the Kiwi) who totally backed Mal's story about what happened on their arrival. Of course the Reg Sgt Major(at the time) & the MoD totally disagree & say that it was all lies. They say that nothing like that was said & that they never recieved any messages. Then they changed their tune to "we did recieve messages but they weren't clear", then it was "well we couldn't risk the lives of the men on the chopper". Over all the men felt totally abandoned by the Regiment.
The show goes on to talk about how the official secrects act was set up.
It was an interesting watch so if any of you can get your hands on it I'd recommend it. Obviously it goes into more detail than this posting. You can actually see the Reg Sgt Major lying through his teeth.
Take care, speak soon
>>By Paul R (Thursday, 27 Feb 2003 15:02)
I didn´t mean videogame I meant computer-game.
Thanks Paul.
>>By ´Swedish reader (Thursday, 27 Feb 2003 15:20)
Thurs still: 14.30 UK
Paul: which network churned out the "Four Corners Doc"?
The RSM bit has been well spat around offboard, like we put the RSM through a coffee grinder grain by grain!!
I can't repeat onboard what one of the chinook pilots said: off the record over breakfast...
As you know (or should by now) I haven't gotten past CF, yet, but I did hike over to Amazon.com (fingers held aloft as cross, hate the place, not enough info on the books) and please, please, tell me that Liberation Day is worth reading!!!
These comments on "Ammo's reviews of Libertion Day" didn't make for good marketing: --------------------- What's happening to Kelly? This book has wandered too far from the style of his previous books. I had become to feel a lot for Stone, but the Stone in this book just doesn't seem as deep (and shallow!) as he has been.
Is it time for McNab to write one more Stone book before he gets too bored of his character? Then he will be free to invent new characters to explore
-- In a break from his previous books, McNab has set this book into a real time frame with a real scenario with a background that lies in the war against terror after 9/11. Perhaps this will mean the end of Nick Stone who is a character who takes himself far too seriously and who is constantly trying to relive the good old days. One feels that this book will be the last in this series, and it’s probably about time. By tying himself to world events McNab is going to find it difficult to take this any further. So, Andy McNab, give Nick Stone his American Passport and let him retire into a world of celebrity bodyguards and give us a new fresh character and throw him into more fantastic, compelling adventures that are like this unputdownable page turner.
--- The copious padding in the writing is in my view unnecessary. And there is too much repetition. For example, 'I checked my Browning and bum bag' and 'Click. Click.' (constant references to radio communication). String the use of these two phrases together and I would guess the result would stretch three times round the globe. So, a page-turner in a different sense - you can't wait to get to something riveting. It does eventually come, but with long gaps in-between. If you want a well-written good old-fashioned Boys Own, SAS-style story, Chris Ryan is the man who at the moment fits the bill consistently. Perhaps with a change of formula, McNab will score once more. -----------------------
Well, there you go Am-I-Binned, maybe we should send his publisher that first page of thriller plot I posted...About time NS looked at "White Gold" and "Uncut" for new angle on thriller drillers...
>>By buddy (Thursday, 27 Feb 2003 15:52)
(Down Under -0225hrs, 28/02/03) Buddy, I saw it on the ABC or SBS out here, I can't remember which. I'll check it out & get back to you. I'd love to hear anything you have to say about the (then) RSM off board Buddy please.
I've got a few things to say about Liberation Day, but I'll wait to see what the rest of F Troop say.
take care, speak soon
>>By Paul R (Thursday, 27 Feb 2003 17:27)
So it's not Hukka, it's Haka!! Must be all that stamping of feet and fisting gestures: just blows the mind...Something about that war dance, though, causes a real tingle factor...
There's a Maori player in the new Welsh side, and he's taught the rest of the team how to do a Haka. Looks good!!
Had a quickie pan back through list but couldn't locate WinterWolf@.........
Must be going blind from too much hanging out with SAS bods.
On the F Troop front: A really funny story came my way a few years back - it was called TWAT Force, (I think) I'll have to look it out. It'll have everyone here ROFL several times over. It's classic female military stuff...
take care all, and have you noticed no one has stood in the corner for a while?
>>By buddy (Thursday, 27 Feb 2003 20:51)
So the Welsh team are doing the Haka now? That would look bizarre, then again not many of the All Blacks have been Maori lately anyway. It's great to watch a real bunch of Maori boys do the Haka, it's primitive but it still works.
Buddy, you've got my address now yes?
take care, speak soon
>>By Paul R (Friday, 28 Feb 2003 14:30)
(Holland 28th Febr.’03)
Re: Buddy: I hate had had, and loathe have have, If I hadn’t had language troubles already I had had them now!!
Re: Buddy!! BRILLIANT!! Thanks Buddy, my brain was working non-paid overtime, glad it’s solved Are there’s fly-screens at your backdoors all year through Am-I-Binned? We only use them in summertime.
Re: Irish jokes ? / dag nabbit how did "will" fall in to line where "with" should be... ‘fraid you lost me here.
Re: Aussies handle the haka, we just give them the 1000 yard stare before we go on to thrash them off the park!
Re: Swedish Reader: Can some of the differences in the versions have something to do with the number of pages or something like that? Not this one. Long version really has 4 pages more story lines.
Re: I think the UK-version is Mcnab himself. Do you mean you think extra lines are written by someone else? I don’t believe that, just others deciding what to publish.
Re: Paul: The four Corners documentary Thanks for this extensive report Paul. I really wish I could see it sometimes. We’ve talked about this before on Allreaders but it’s still shocking to read: “(Apparently there was near mutiny on the base) when no rescue attempt was launched.” “(..) told them not to worry as he wouldn't court-martial them. He then told the squad they were expendable and he'd happily expend a squad for a scud.”
“The men were shocked & disgusted” “Over all the men felt totally abandoned by the Regiment.”
Andy hardly shows his (real) feelings in his (non-)fictional books which is remarkable and completely understandable if he would have. But he remains gentleman I think and keeps showing his loyalty and ‘affection’ for the Regiment. Just telling (an extract) of facts, no judgement. He does show his aversion for those in charge on the top through Nick. Whether therapy or sticking out his tongue (use that expression too??), we enjoy his books.
Re: Swedish R.: I didn´t mean video game I meant computer-game. I did understand. I don’t know them. I know they’re on the market but that’s it. Hardly have time for games being on this board ;-)
Re: Buddy: I can't repeat onboard what one of the chinook pilots said: off the record over breakfast... I would be interested too Buddy, if you’d be so kind.. you know where to find me.
Re: Buddy: please, tell me that Liberation Day is worth reading!!! Good news (for me): English version arrived today!! Decided it couldn’t wait ‘till Dutch translator finishes his work. Really looking forward to reading it!! Re: Buddy: “Ammo's reviews of Liberation Day" Can’t tell if he is right.. But I have enormous faith I’ll like the book. And ‘a new character’ would just not be the same, I’d miss Nick. But hey, even your children fly out one day even though you can’t let go.
Re: So it's not Hukka, it's Haka!! There was this great commercial on TV, I think it was for William Lawson’s whiskey (or something like that) Does anyone (well ‘anyone’ will – beat you to it!) know this commercial? If not: 2 teams, I think one was Maori does some very aggressive Haka, other is Scottish. After Maori’s finish it’s Scottish turn. They just lift their skirts….
If you have trouble finding Pauls address Buddy, you could email me or Am-I-Binned since you know ours. We could give you Paul's since I know he wants you to have it.
Bye,
>>By Lynn (Friday, 28 Feb 2003 18:40)
Hi Swedish reader: I think the general consensus around here is that Andy McNab writes his own books, and if he doesn't, well, every fan of his would forgive him almost anything!!
Interestingly though, Tom Carew's ghost writer has said he is embarrassed by the revelations about the fact that Carew was never a member of 22 SAS, but stressed that the book was principally a true story about Afghanistan. Carew's ghost writer apparently further added: he was confident other books he has written on behalf of SAS troopers are all kosher. (he hopes) buddy says:
Intriguingly, no one has pointed out that although Carew failed the SAS selection course, he was nevertheless selected (more than once) as the "enemy" on SAS exercises. That is no mean task either, in that not all SAS groups on exercise defeat the "enemy". In fact SAS men have been known to be captured by mock enemy teams, and very often during interrogation (blindfolded) they haven't had a clue who the interrogators were!! Anyone whose read my novel (not to everyones taste admittedly) knows that Jamie (officer) was subjected to a severe beating, and as I'm not SAS personnel I can write what ever I like about military brutality, etc... V fingers to the MoD --- Another interesting snipit from the BBC site: The Ministry of Defence has described as an error a website dedicated to attracting recruits to the Territorial Army branch of the super-secret SAS. The site has been removed permanently "for security reasons", the MoD said. It was set up to look for volunteers for the 21 Special Air Service Regiment (Reserves), based in London, which is part of the crack SAS force.
A Ministry of Defence "spokeswoman" said: "It is our policy not to discuss the SAS at all and this is not in line with that. It has been removed permanently. It was a mistake."
buddy says: If Ms Anon is considered an eloquent spokeswoman for the MoD, why am I kicking my heels in Wales? The above is somewhat double-dutch (no offence Lynn) like she got caught with her pants down and no loo roll readily to hand. --------- Did anyone know who was doing what for which gaming ompany: bear in mind I didn't write the following text...
REAL SAS heroes are being drafted in to beef up military video games.
Designers are asking the ex-soldiers for advice on rifle models, tactics and operations to make sure the details are spot-on. Jamie Leece of Gotham Games said: "The games are better by getting the details authentic."
Veteran military advisor Capt Dale Dye, consultant on Steven Spielberg's war film Saving Private Ryan and the game Medal of Honour, said: "Games players can see the real deal from the battlefield on TV."
Ex-SAS man Chris Ryan, was consultant for IGI2: Covert Strike, added: "After September 11 the games have become increasingly popular with people who want to see the bad guy dropped."
Another consultant was ex-SAS fighter Cameron Spence, who wrote a bestseller about the six weeks he spent behind enemy lines during the Gulf War.
He is co-author of the guide for In Conflict: Desert Storm - a game that lets players take on the role of an SAS soldier on missions in Kuwait and Iraq.
buddy says: there was no mention of Andy and XBox ------ Found this: Just a little reminder in light of non-commissioned SAS personnel turned writer/s who see fit to tarnish commissioned officers (Ruperts) with mickey-taking comments!!
Brigadier Bill Dodd SAS officer who led from the front and charmed subordinates and top brass alike with his ready grin. IN NATURAL pose Bill Dodd's face relaxed into a smile which, one would imagine, could reach his ears without undue effort. For the photograph reproduced here he was persuaded to "look serious", as otherwise it might have seemed that it was taken after — rather than before — the high-level parachute descent he was about to make in the United States. (sorry pic not included here) His grin won him many friends but it got him into difficulties at Sandhurst, where the drill instructors thought he was laughing at them. He was commissioned into the Essex Regiment in 1955 and volunteered for the Special Air Service at the earliest opportunity. He was on operations with the Regiment in various theatres, including North Borneo during Indonesia's confrontation with Malaysia, and later in the Middle East. Both these campaigns demanded not only exceptional fitness because of the terrain, but also a cool nerve while operating in very close proximity to the enemy. His talent in the latter respect in particular led to command of "D" Squadron 22 SAS and later to his becoming second-in-command of the Regiment.
buddy says: At this juncture I wish to point out that many battle hardened commissioned offficers - from captains to majors - regularly led SAS/SBS troopers into battle and on covert OPs right up to the late sixties and early seventies. Those of more intellectual and liguistic ability were and will continue to be assigned to specialist operations in which local dialect is a must for relative freedom of mobility. By the mid seventies, however, senior officers were less noticeable within frontline battle situations. But even so, on occasion we are reminded that officers do still commit themselves to heroic feats (inevitable death) to save their men, as in the Falklands War... ------- buddy says: As you're all fans of Andy McNab (SAS - related) you might like to browse the following web site.
http://webking22@silentops.com/operations/malaya/malaya_index.htm
When you've selected item of interest, be sure to check out individual buttons/keys just below the header-banner.
Lynn: great whiskey triumph!!!
>>By buddy (Saturday, 1 Mar 2003 00:45)
Sa, 1/3/03 (11:55pm EST US)
My goodness, Buddy -- you've really been hard at it! Good stuff, and some I've read but hadn't saved, so Thanks! Could you check website address tho' -- I get redirected to Silent Ops under construction page.
Hello again, Swedish reader. Glad your with us again. Found "Silent Heros" on Amazon.uk but couldn't find info on author -- could you provide? Is there a particular reason you selected this book?
Team SAS -- don't play games but have looked at the promotional screens for Team SAS (scheduled to release late this year). You triggered me to revisit (its been a while). Surprised by following (dated 15/1/03):
According to BBC News, Rage Software has reportedly closed its doors with an additional round of employees let go. While the company had a number of games in development, such as Lamborghini, Andy McNab Team SAS, and a new game based on the Rocky franchise, these properties will be sold off to other companies, and the remaining team members will be broken up.
Much frustration on my part on all the things we miss out on by being in the US... jeez, we get all excited when the player does a "happy dance" after making a touchdown! Obviously, Lin, our half-time commercials are missing something over here (grin, wink) ... Wait, what's that sound? Oh yeah, I know, it's the network censors sighing with relief....
>>By am-i-binned (Sunday, 2 Mar 2003 06:22)
just a quicky....
Logical step to malaya_malaya is to punch in:
http://webking22@silent-ops.com/
I may have signed up for the other page!
>>By buddy (Sunday, 2 Mar 2003 09:51)
Su, 2/3/03 (8:52am EST US)
Thanks, Buddy! I thought I recognized SilentOps org but the site I remember wasn't anywhere close to this set -up (will have to dig back in my files later to see if it is same) but I swear recognize the topic/subject breakdowns....
>>By am-i-binned (Sunday, 2 Mar 2003 14:59)
Hi everyone,
I have read all of Mcnabs except Liberation day.
What happened to the russion property he was given in Firewall ?? Did I miss something because there was no mention in Last light.
Also I would recommend - Soldier Against the Odds by Lofty Large & No Mean Soldier by Peter McAleese.
I have also read all the Chris Ryan books which I enjoyed, but in my humble opinion are not a patch on McNab.
By Wellington
>>By Wellington (Tuesday, 4 Mar 2003 00:39)
M, 3/3/03 (12:50am EST US)
Hello, Wellington -- welcome!
May I ask -- have you been lurking or did you just find us today? You might have seen we're taking our own informal survey of the havoc wrought by various editors/publishers in different countries. Where are you posting from?
I've wondered the same exact thing about Valentin's offer! All things considered, I would have advised Nick to throw his hand in with Valentin for the short-run to cash in on the properties. Better the devil you know.... Plus I'd really like to know Valentin's explanation of "this whole sorry affair", what Ignati's role was, and who the heck were Valentin's nephews. I'd also like to know what happened while Nick was working with the Wasp/Democrat from US NSA.... Maybe in the next book?
The only Chris Ryan I've read so far is TOTGA but even from that I'd agree with your humble opinion! Will note your suggested books on my ever-growing list. I recognize No Mean Soldier as one I'd considered a while back but didn't pursue.
Answer to US houses:
Lynn, you were very, very close! "division of the house ... when front door is opened one steps right into the living room ... “Our” houses have hallways and stairs first, then another door to the living room and/or kitchen.
Most typical/average US homes, particularly newer ones, have a more open floor plan. Even if they do have foyers or center halls, they have doorways but not doors into most of their main floor rooms (living/dining/kitchen areas).
Remote Control (Kev's house) "To my left was the door to the living room, open about a foot or so. .... while I cleared the door that led back to the hallway. ... As I moved through [the living room doorway], I closed the door behind me. I approached the one to the kitchen. The handle was on the right-hand side...."
Crisis Four: (Josh's house) "The holiday cases were still in the hallway. ... as we walked past them. ... He closed the door [to the living room] and said.... The door opened and Sarah came in."
Another bit of (useless) trivia:
From Crisis Four: What is the actual movie that MIB, Too Thin to Win and Young One are watching? (big grin) Paul, you better know this!
And on that note, I'm toddlin' off to bed... see ya' all soon....
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 4 Mar 2003 06:53)
Sweden 4/3/03 08.10 hrs
Good morning
Wolcome Wellington.
I think Liberation Day is absolutely worth reading. It´s more like his non-fiction-books. Nick is working with professionals this time.
I still think that the missing chapter in the Swedish version of Immediat Action and the other missing passages can have something to do with a limitation af the number of pages decides by the publisher.
No I don´t believe that the extra lines are written by someone else. I meant that the UK-language gives a personification of Mcnab himself. So I suggest, Lynn, read the english version of Liberation Day.
I´ve heard that Chris Ryan used a ghost-writer when writiong The One That Got Away.
In February every year there is a traditional book-sale in Sweden. This year i found Silent Heros at the sale. It´s about the history of SAS, selection, equipment and describes some events that SAS has been involved in. It´s written by an ex-SAS-man. Graeme Stewart is not his real name. That´s all I know about him.
I knew that Rage has problems but i didn´t know taht the propertis will be sold. Then we can still look forward to exciting? computer-games.
>>By Swedish reader (Tuesday, 4 Mar 2003 08:25)
Holland, March 4th ’03
Re: half-time commercials are missing something over here Well, I doubt your censors would be shocked by this commercial. To my great disappointment we only see Scottish backs (not behinds and definitely no fronts). Please forgive me, I couldn’t let this one rest :-) Re; Buddy: http://webking22@silent-ops.com/ Great site, very nice lay-out too! Anyone with interest in the SAS should take a look.
Re: Swedish R.: Lynn, read the English version of Liberation Day. I am!!! Book arrived this week and I’m reading.
I’ve got a ‘thing’ with Scotland, was amused to read (silent-ops site) that (over) 70% of SAS is Scottish !
Take care,
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 4 Mar 2003 21:45)
Just found this shocking news:
Mark Lucas, McNab’s agent, said: “Nick Stone will be the anti-James Bond. Andy will co-produce the films but we are not insisting on a British actor. Brad Pitt has got the perfect combination of brains and brawn and he is ideal for the role.”
News is from July 2001 - so it's not really up to date. But if Mark Lucas is lurking I want to say just three words to him: NO NO NO !
>>By Lynn (Wednesday, 5 Mar 2003 18:54)
Come on, Lynn, stop beating around the bush -- how do you really feel about this? (great big grin & wink)
>>By am-i-binned (Wednesday, 5 Mar 2003 20:28)
Hi all, and welcome to the house, Wellington...
Didn't you notice, Lynn was shaking the b****y bush in frustrated rage!! Gee, between us we've knocked off all the nuts...
Did mark Lucas really say: "....Brad Pitt has got the perfect combination of brains and brawn and he is ideal for the role." (?)
What planet does Mark Lucas live on? He's AM's agent, huh? Fancy that, and the b*****d turned down my novel...
I read an old article in which Sean Penn's name was broached as a likely candidate for NS - could just about live with him, but wouldn't vote for either SP or BP, the latter like oil in water...
-------- The following refers to an incendiary device having blown up in a man's face...
<< He was trying to cry with needles stuck in his f****** eyes and there was so much blood you couldn't see the tears. He just kept saying that he didn't want to die and he kept calling for his mum. That's the curious thing, you know, when guys get shot, when they're dying, they don't call out for their wives or girlfriends; they call for their mums. And do you know, while I knelt there talking to him, staring at him, the only thing I could think of? Thank Christ it was 'him' and not me.>>
I've heard that same statement of "mother love" by military men, time and time again...
If one stops to think, truly think about the above statement, one wonders who Andy McNab would, or maybe did silently call out to when he thought himself about to die in horrendous circumstances within the interrogation cell of an Iraqi prison: bearing in mind he was tortured and worse, plus the foundling aspect.
>>By buddy (Thursday, 6 Mar 2003 00:51)
This came fluttering into my personal mailbox! I guess it's old-hat news, but if true, whose up for chasing Andy McNab round the bushes?
<<<An anonymous poster left this interesting little tip: "Ex-SAS author Andy McNab is in negotiations to turn one of his books into a Hollywood film - Sean Penn and Brad Pitt are the authors favourites to appear and the producers have approached them">>>
The fact that Brad Pitt comes up like three lemons on a slot-machine, I would imagine he must be # 1 on AM's list...Shame, shame, I asked my daughters what they thought about the above two candidates...The elder voted for Sean Penn, the younger laughed and agreed, and further added that Brad Pitt is no longer a pin-up for Brit women because the GAY male community has adopted him as an Icon of male beauty!!!
>>By buddy (Thursday, 6 Mar 2003 10:49)
Th, 6/3/03 (6:50am EST) US
Okay now, Buddy! Quite honestly, I won't care who the heck plays Nick Stone so long as you point me to the exact bush where I'll find Andy!!!!!!
As to BP being a gay icon of beauty -- doesn't really surprise me. Of my friends, they almost always have superior taste. Plus it actually makes for an even stronger argument for BP -- considering how Nicholas Davidson came into being! I won't have a prob with BP as Nick so long as he is "Fight Club" and not "The Mexican".
>>By am-i-binned (Thursday, 6 Mar 2003 13:04)
Thurs 6/3/03 (12. GMT) UK
"The Mexican" ?
Being that the SAS were at one time renowned for their Mexicano whiskers: BP might pass as all *man* if AM puts him in that guise...
On the subject of Lynn's post: NS as anti-James Bond hero, well, at least Pierce Brosnan has real man hair on his chest like good ole Sean Connery, plus he looks good in either jeans and leathers or a city slicker suit!!! Just a pity JB story lines/film scripts are so fantasmally c****y these days...You know something, when BP gets into his late forties he'll look more like Marlon Brando in the "Godfather" - flabby. He won't follow in the goodlooking footsteps of AM or Robert Redford...
If BP has got the role, which your posting suggests he has, then Hooray for Hollywood: yet another Brit hero turned Yankee doodle dandy and, I bet a Brit actor gets the bum role as anti hero!!!
Good job we have a offboard understanding (?) or this could turn into a "fur-fight".
You wanna locate AM bush ? Look for a trail of cling film!!
I don't know how recent it was, but AM did a drop-in book signing in Stafford...Guess the customers were hand-picked...
>>By buddy (Thursday, 6 Mar 2003 14:07)
Th 6/3/03 (11:17am EST) US
Still waiting to find out what you're eating for breakfast these days! Gotz to getz me some!
Odds & Ends
Funny you mention BP and Robert Redford -- always, always thought BP looked like he could play RR's son or sumfink... very, very similar faces. Doubt 40-ish BP very much as a Marlon Brando (no resemblance at all as far as I'm concerned), but for sure a present day Redford (well, maybe not quite as "weathered" I would hope).
Do you know the movie "The Mexican" -- or just making jump to mustache?
We've discussed the caricarturization of JB to death elsewhere, so to me doesn't matter if it's Connery, Bosnan, Moore, or Sly Stalone, won't ever do Ian Fleming's original any justice whatsoever.
I don't have any inside track on who's been picked yet, may not be set yet, just more stupid hype. Being a purist, I'd like it better if they stuck to a Brit, but they're not asking me for my opinion these days -- pity! (yeah, like they'd ever ask in the first place -- grin). More I hear tho', the more I doubt I'll go to see it anyway -- just wait for it to come to cable so I won't be out the cost of a movie ticket if I decide to change the channel.
Pointing me to a cling-film trail is just not good enough -- I want specific directions to a specific shrub! I'm tired of all the false sign he leaves! Speaking of which -- Stafford? Stafford where? We have Staffords here too. Any details, specifics, how'd you find out about this, when, who, etc.?
'nuf fur fur now?
>>By am-i-binned (Thursday, 6 Mar 2003 17:39)
Swedish Reader
Only just found you, thanks for all your replys, I think McNab's left the Russion issues for another book (hopefully) - Of his fiction Remote Control was my favourite then Remote Control.
I bought a revised edition of the one that got away - and the introduction goes a little way to explaining the inaccuracies in the original.
Also the best book I have ever read is The forgotten Soldier - By Guy Sajaer (I think thats how you spell his surname) - It's about a German Soldier (GS) on the eastern front (Non fiction).
Happy reading and just to let you know Liberation Day is about to be devoured.
>>By Wellington (Thursday, 6 Mar 2003 20:01)
Sorry going mad ... meant to say remote control then firewall.
I think Sean Bean would make a good NS - I thought he did a good job on B 2 0 and played the Sharpe role well. Plus he's british.
Does anyone watch SAS are you tough enough on BBC2 - just thought I'd add the SM's comments (whose Scottish for people who dont watch it) to the scottish issue and the fact 70% of the SAS are scottish - his comments were cause were all hard bast**ds.
Take it easy.
>>By Wellington (Thursday, 6 Mar 2003 20:17)
Oh Wellinton, don't start on Sean Bean as "Sharpe"
(((((((((she swoons in blissful memories of all those buttons on SB's tunic!!!)))))))))
I read (years ago) Lord of the Rings and reread LOTR before the first film of three hit the big screen, then I waited for the DVD, just to be able to drool over Sean Bean in private...
When I reread the book, long before the casting of stars were promotionally sneaked out of the bag, I'd visualised SB as "Strider/Aragorn". He's so good at looking malevolent and sexy at one and the same time, much as I visualised Nick Stone in Crisis Four...
Yes Wellington, I did watch a couple of the "Are You Tough Enough" programmes and, didn't Eddie snarl beautifully for the cameras!?
Anyone want Andy McNab's number? There are ways of getting it, you know...Think like he does, and maybe you'll crack it....
Am-I-Binned you asked about Stafford: Stafford on the Cheshire route, I guess...Could be wrong, seeing as so many Brits settled Stateside and named places after their old home towns/villages... Mention of the femminist chappy has a chilling effect...
>>By buddy (Thursday, 6 Mar 2003 21:53)
Sweden 07/03/03 07.57 hrs
Great news
There will be at least tree more Nick Stone-novels. The next one (oct 03) is calld Dark Winter.
From an on-line chat with Andy yesterday.
>>By Swedis reader (Friday, 7 Mar 2003 07:59)
Poor old Andy, he'll have to rethink on that new title for Oct 03 book: "Dark Winter"
"Dark Winter by William Dietrich" already exists. It's abrilliant thriller...Twenty-six rugged adventurers unknowingly isolate themselves with a psychopath in the Antarctic wilderness. As the body count rises, the temperatures drop and the group must stop the killer before their chance of survival disappears into the arctic darkness. Geologist Jed Lewis has joined them at the Amundsen-Scott research base in the South Pole. Each winter, the base is totally shut off from the outside world: no one can enter or leave. As soon as Jed arrives, murders start occurring, and soon, 10 of the 26 staffers are dead. Everyone suspects Jed, but maybe he's innocent. He does have a secret, though--one that might have a sinister connection to the horrible events unfolding at the base.*
There was a film, too, very similar: if not based on the book...
Isn't there a law on title copyright same as content of any story?
>>By buddy (Friday, 7 Mar 2003 10:10)
F 7/3/03 (6:08am EST) US
Quick question, Swedish reader -- Is that online chat available to read online still? Please direct to site, if so!
In US there are at least two other "Firewall" books -- don't know the storylines, only that I stumbled across them in libraries...
Wait, will check -- okay, from Free Library of Philadelphia: Firewall by R. Pineiro Firewall: A Kurt Wallander Mystery by Henning Mankell, Ebba Segerberg
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 7 Mar 2003 12:24)
Holland, March 7th
Re: Lynn, stop beating around the bush/chasing Andy McNab round the bushes? What’s with bushes these days?? I could get into it but I’d get out of control.
Re: What planet does Mark Lucas live on Anyone seen Lilo & Stitch? (I’ve got kids). Mark must be ‘expiriment 626’
Re: Sean Penn's name was broached as a likely candidate for NS Mmmm, I do like Penn. Between him and BP he’s more likely to be a grey man.
Re: "mother love" Since she left him on a doorstep.. doubt he would call out her name..
Re: Sean Penn and Brad Pitt are the authors favourites/Brad Pitt comes up like three lemons on a slot-machine That’s just his vanity speaking. What man would not like to be portrayed by BP.. But that’s exactly why he should NOT play Nick Stone. Nothing grey about him.
Re: AM did a drop-in book signing in Stafford...Guess the customers were hand-picked... Deep and frustrated sigh…. I really have to get this off my chest. If… IF there is any book signing I think WE should be invited !!!!!!!!!!!!! After all… for months now.. we talk about HIM, we discus HIM, we think about HIM, We try to analyse HIM. We worry for HIM (Hollywood) WE HAVE A RIGHT TO BE INVITED. SPREAD THE NEWS.
Re: Wellington: revised edition of the one that got away Could you tell us more about the introduction, since I (and others I guess) don’t have that edition. (and welcome indeed, “cause were all hard bast**ds”...are you Scottish??)
Re: Sean Bean would make a good NS He was great on B20… but he already played Andy. Would be strange to play Nick as well.
Re: SAS are you tough enough I tried to. Taped first episode but due lack of time didn’t see the others.
Re: Anyone want Andy McNab’s number Hahaha. I wont even answer this one. Oh, I just did.
Re: maybe you'll crack it.... Only thing I will crack is my brain.
Re: From an on-line chat with Andy yesterday. Deep and frustrated sigh…. I really have to get this off my chest. If… IF there is an …….. Do I really have to go over this again!!!! I hate missing these things !!!
I go now and I’m not happy.
From a frustrated Lynn (CHEER ME UP!)
>>By Lynn (Friday, 7 Mar 2003 22:01)
F 7/3/03 (10:45pm) US
Okay, Lynn! You go, girl! Think you musta had an extra large serving of Buddy's breakfast cereal!
Since misery loves company -- Hail, fellow unhappy camper! Equally frustrated, especially again with Transworld and Random House. I can't figure out eactly where their heads are at, but I have a feeling they don't need sunscreen (since the sun don't shine there)! Even now if you check their "author events" schedule -- nothing is listed. The reviews and info go back to Remote Control and Crisis Four -- 'scuz me, think there might have been three more -- what no reviews were ever done on his newer books? Clueless wonders! Definitely gonna have to find some other access route to get this type of stuff in advance and also get our names on those invite lists! I think your arguments, Lynn, are absolutely air-tight! In fact, maybe all of us here should incorporate ourselves and suggest that we take over the business of promoting Mr. McNab internationally. And it will be a major success! -- because, no matter what we do, it will be still be an improvement; there's now way anyone could do a worse job even if they tried!
Re: "Mother Love" -- If circumstances were such, logical "mother" Andy would call would be his adopted mother. In IA and B20 he calls his adopted parents "my parents" and his adopted mother "my mother" so if the theory holds true...."Mother..."
Re: Sean Penn, Brad Pitt, etc. Of all the names bantered about, I think I'd still prefer Sean Bean as first choice (Buddy, I'm with you on major Sharpe palpitations!) And considering that some of us see Andy/Nick as interchangeable, I wouldn't have a problem with SB as both AM and NS. Just the same I can't tell where their brains are that they're not looking first for Brit actors? -- oooops, wait, maybe Miramax's folks are just like those at Transworld and Random House -- maybe their brain cells have been deprived of sunshine, too.
But, if they're so bound and determined to use an American, not a Brit, my choice would be Viggo Mortensen (Strider/Aragorn in LOTR). And then that sends me spinning off on another tangent, speaking of LOTR, I hate the fact that (Sean Bean again) Boromir dies. Now why couldn't that story have been rewritten -- oh yeah, I remember now, Peter Jackson is from New Zealand! He has principles!
Re: SAS - Are you tough enough As I am "internationally-impaired" by living in the US, I believe this is a reality-based series (sort of like our "Survivor"), am I correct? Could you tell me who produces it? 'Course it may not be available to me anyway if it's only in PAL format. Grrrrrrr!
Well, doubt this will really cheer you up, Lynn, but must say it felt really great getting a good rant going!
>>By am-i-binned (Saturday, 8 Mar 2003 06:14)
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