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Cover of Ramsey's sort of reminds me of another -- one you know quite well. What put you onto Ramsay's book?
>>By amibinned (Tuesday, 4 Feb 2003 05:27)
Hey guys, just a quick note to say congrats on having such great reading taste! McNab is a fantastic author whose insight into the life of a SpecOps operator & a K sets him apart. (speaking from specop background myself). As for the differences between Andy & Chris and their stories......all I can say is 2 different people put under the same intensely powerful situation always have 2 very different views on the events that took place. These two men were in a situation that no-one (no matter what they may say in public) wants to be in & the pressure that was on both Chris as Point-man & Andy as the Ptln Sgt would be incomprehensible as they both have stated. They both deserve our deepest regards & respect.
And yes amibinned, Andy does mention a lot of things I'm more than surprised the MoD allow. Everything he mentions seems to ring a bell.
Anyway, take care guys and I'll speak to you again soon.
Paul
>>By Paul (Tuesday, 4 Feb 2003 06:25)
In reply to amibinned:
Ramsey!
Ah, therein lies another story...
Following Paul's ref to differing latent viewpoint by two men in difficult (awkward post-battle tension) there's a known psychological fact. The human brain stores vast amounts of info, but human fraility such as it is (subconscious always challenging conscious when awake, let alone when most active during sleep) can over time distort with embellishments or enforce restraint upon certain past events...
Hence, one person's story will differ from that of another, more noticeable, perhaps, if one studies witness accounts read out in the law courts...As those witnesses to recount the same incident ten years later and they'll deliver a much more embellished version with details never mentioned before...Why is that? Their brain has since absorbed other details of the case!!!
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 4 Feb 2003 12:19)
Hello
Trying to join in... Little short in time but try to keep up.
English is not my language so forgive typos or questions if I don't understand. I am 'familiar' with Am-I-Binned and Buddy (whom I met on Allreaders) yet, I say hello to the rest of you.
Have read all Andy McNab's (I heard it's a good idea to give the full name instead of using AM) except Liberation Day, it was not yet published in my language and I'd like to wait for that one because I don't want to miss a single word and reading in English would mean with the dictionary on the other knee.
BUT I must say, the longer I have to wait (and it's looong) the more I'm tempted to read English version (and other version afterwards). Also all Chris Ryan's books including TOTGA.
Favorite is Andy though, that's why I'm on 'his' board.
To MG, yes please, a timestamp would be great.
Buddy, what happens with documentation after debriefing??
What truth will those documents have to offer?
Lynn
>>By Lynn (Wednesday, 5 Feb 2003 11:48)
Hi guys!
Lynn, if English isn't your first Language you're doing damn well!!
Here's a question for everyone:
What's the all time best McNab book?
Take care guys, speak soon.
Paul R
>>By Paul R (Thursday, 6 Feb 2003 00:55)
Well, for me:
Non-fiction - Bravo Two Zero
Fiction - Crisis Four
>>By am-i-binned (Thursday, 6 Feb 2003 02:52)
Oh, this is a difficult question...
I think non-fiction Immediate Action because it gives more info on McNab's carrier and live (and more pics ;-) and fiction...
I haven't read Lib.Day yet so only 4 left.... I rembember of
Remote Control thinking this is like watching a movie, it has a lot of info, speed, action, humor. I liked the (starting) relationship between Kelly and Nick. I really love them all, but if I have to pick one.... Remote Control for me (It's called Total Control in my country by the way - beats me why they changed title). Thanks for the language compliment Paul, I do my best.
And... if you say 'guys' I guess you mean all of us right?? ;-)
>>By Lynn (Thursday, 6 Feb 2003 14:17)
Hi, Lynn, Paul R, and et al --
I do agree with you, Lynn, on your reasons for choosing Immediate Action and also for Remote Control. When I named favorites it was with the bias toward -- if I could only recommend one book (nonfiction) or one book (fiction) to someone who's never read Andy McNab (see, full name!) before, what would I recommend to get them hooked on his writings? Expanding his readership, as you well know, is my personal mission! (big grin, wink!)
Of course, my first preference would always be that Andy McNab's (that's twice) books should be read in publication order:
Bravo Two Zero
Immediate Action
Remote Control
Crisis Four
Firewall
Last Light
Liberation Day (only available in UK, but due out in US @ April 2003)
E-chatter again soon....
>>By am-i-binned (Thursday, 6 Feb 2003 14:35)
Hi everybody...All 4 of you...
With only one (((((Andy McNab))))) book read to date, I'll have to pass on the favouritism angle until I've read'em all.
Gotta say, though, some great pics in Jack Ramsay's book...
I do love the boyant enthusiasm shown toward anything AM, still waiting for my T-shirt, though...
>>By buddy (Thursday, 6 Feb 2003 18:05)
Hi guys, (yes Lynn, that includes everyone. haha! Just used to saying it from my army days)
What is your first language by the way Lynn?
When I asked what everybody's favourite Andy McNab ( see we're all using his full name) book was I didn't realise how hard a question that was to answer.
Non Fiction: I'd have to say Immediate Action - nice look at who the man is
Fiction: Last Light -again a great insight to Andy McNab
Really enjoying Liberation Day at the moment too. Thank God it's available here in Australia.
Take care guys,
Paul R
>>By Paul R (Friday, 7 Feb 2003 00:09)
Hallo, All.
Just a quick explanation of the "full name" thing -- Since last summer, I've been on a quest to find other Andy McNab readers; I did loads of searches and research for newsgroups. One item I found was someone asking (about 2 years ago) how to set up a newsgroup for Andy McNab. That inquiry got the following response:
"The biggest objection you will get, I think, is that Andy McNab has only been mentioned twice in newsgroups in the last three months, according to a deja.com search, which indicates there is little or no interest in the author. Just consider if you will find enough interested readers to discuss the author and his works. Finding those readers will be up to you."
If others are searching as I was/still am, they will not be looking for "AM" -- hence, the full name. And, who knows, maybe somewhere down the road, we'll form a newsgroup. In the meantime, I'm delighted that we've all come together and now have two message boards actively discussing Andy McNab and related topics. Are we little firestarters or what!
That said, I found GNOD last August, and I think I may have even been the first post (although it's gone now). Lynn, Buddy and I met each other on the other board. Paul, Swedish Reader, Scott, RTUd, and anyone else who may be here -- care to tell how you found this message board and/or if you know of any others?
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 7 Feb 2003 06:12)
I just saw the mention of the first post that "is gone now". Just in case somebody wonders, it was:
"1st time visiting this site -- are there any ongoing discussions? amibinned"
>>By mg (Friday, 7 Feb 2003 11:52)
Hi, mg!
Thanks for finding the post (although it wasn't important at all). A few other questions, if you don't mind -- Was there any other activity here before that post? Do postings drop off after a certain amount of time or activity? I see we're up to two pages now; is there a capacity limit for these message boards? And, one other question: Do you read Andy McNab too? (big grin, wink!)
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 7 Feb 2003 13:55)
Hi Am-I-Binned,
> Was there any other activity here before that post?
No.
> Do postings drop off after a certain amount of time or activity?
No.
> I see we're up to two pages now; is there a capacity limit for these message boards?
No.
> Do you read Andy McNab too?
No :o) Before I saw this forum I never heard about him.
By the way, what does 'binned' mean ?
Best Regards.
>>By mg (Friday, 7 Feb 2003 15:15)
Boy, mg, you're quick!!! Thanks for the answers; these are for you ---
Short answer: "to throw away, discard"
Longer answer: From Immediate Action (Chapter 12):
At some stage, when I was back on my knees, my blindfold was removed and I found myself looking up at the training sergeant-major.
"Am I binned?" I said pitifully, remembering how I'd cocked up in the jungle with him.
"No, you nugget. Get back on the helicopter and don't **** up.
I'd caught him in a good mood....
>> Do you read Andy McNab too?
> No :o) Before I saw this forum I never heard about him.
Ah, the mission continues! ;o)
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 7 Feb 2003 15:34)
Intruiging new slant on the "Crisis Four" Film - the anti-hero not Ozzie (?) What's the point of the film if it no longer follows original plot from the book "Crisis Four"
Has the film company merely purchased the "title" and Andy McNab's ex SAS kudos?
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Miramax Films, a Walt Disney company, which last July bought the rights to "Crisis Four," a novel by British author Andy McNab chronicling bin Laden's plans to blow up the White House, will tinker with the script to eliminate all references to the Saudi-born militant.
"We are reviewing the material in light of the recent tragedy and ongoing world events and right now the plotline of Osama bin Laden blowing up the White House will not be included in the film," Miramax spokesman Matthew Hiltzik said in a statement.
Upcoming Hollywood blockbusters will no doubt feature "individual megalomaniacs ... not necessarily connected to any particular ethnic group," Braudy said, noting the longtime entertainment industry strategy to avoid offending any potential ticket buyers.
"It would not surprised a bit that you would start to see heroes, with good Muslim sidekicks at their side... (who) believe in democratic ideas, that are not radical or terrorist," Braudy mused.
And "there will certainly be a kind of paranoia about familiar spaces, like work spaces, any normal places as potentially becoming violent and deadly," he noted.
A transformation in how the "good guys" are portrayed is also likely, Braudy said.
"The hero is going to be a more normal person, an ordinary citizen sort of pulled into a situation rather than somebody with a lot of big muscles and incredible armament," he says.
>>By buddy (Friday, 7 Feb 2003 16:40)
No real surprise considering what Hollyweird did to "Sum of All Fears"....
The real shame is that Andy sold all the rights; had he retained creative license .... oh, well, spilt milk...
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 7 Feb 2003 19:41)
So, am-i-binned, are you saying (agreeing) Andy McNab aka **** ****** sold himself short on this deal?
Bearing in mind ex sergeant SAS now has no control over "future" depiction of Nick Stone and, the fact that any script-writer employed by the studio can turn NS from "hero" into Brit "clown" as seen to have happened with most literary Brit characters.
Do you think his agent f****d up on the deal over copyright of Nick Stone character? Or do you think the man himself went out on a limb to sell himself Stateside? It would seem to me, that Nick will very soon end up as sidekick to "Josh" if the American film industry follows through on the theme of American Leading Lights in key roles...
Any English actor in American films, these days, ends up being portrayed as a corrupt baddy, utter wimp, or a ruddy psychopath...
How does anyone picture the outcome of this film compared to the book "Crisis Four"?
>>By buddy (Friday, 7 Feb 2003 20:58)
Hi, Buddy --
In short:
Yes, sold short (not only current but future NS sold)!
Yes, character will become caricature.
Yes, contributory negligence on Andy's part along with agent(s). Disagree with Josh sidekick theory.
Have to consider English in American films, don't necessarily agree. Outcome will be typical Hollyweird ending -- and a total disappointment!
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 7 Feb 2003 22:29)
Shame on last pointer....
Ah well, Andy will have to dream up a new character.
This time though, hanging on to him all the way - no falling foul of smart-ass, slick-talking, Hollywood dudes!!!
>>By buddy (Saturday, 8 Feb 2003 00:32)
As Allreaders seems to have died an abrupt death on anything Andy McNab (exciting connotations worthy of deliberation) I'll post "Killing Nick Stone" here and see if it draws forth any lurkers...
Rather than let Hollywood destroy the Nick Stone we all love, by creating a character that we won't even recognise a few films hence,(presupposing he becomes a Hollywood great in Crisis four) maybe AM should do the necessary and take him out in a last Nick Stone novel?
You know, one of those classic never-to-be-forgotten heroic tear-jerking deaths = like the end in "Harry's Game"
>>By buddy (Saturday, 8 Feb 2003 18:27)
Well, I posted this (about Nick's death) on Allreaders too, you never know:
Oh please Buddy, no death for Nick!
Retirement, really really really last assignment, whatever..
But nothing final.
I haven’t tried (like Sarah) as you suggested.
Something’s holding me back… so strange.
There is a lot of humour in Crisis Four a re-noticed.
And us talking about similarities between Nick and Andy….
Here’s a huge difference, or at least this was Andy’s way of proofing to the Iraqi’s he wasn’t Jewish.
So guess what Nick had to go through in case he had to proof he WAS in Crisis Four
As to: Andy sold all the rights; had he retained creative license
Are you absolutely sure about this Am-I-Binned?? I did read he sold rights but I’ve not read that he would not be involved.
And one other thing:
"The hero is going to be a more normal person, an ordinary citizen sort of pulled into a situation rather than somebody with a lot of big muscles and incredible armament," he says.
Isn’t this exactly what we expect of the character Nick Stone???
He should be made a ‘normal person’ and no (absolutely not) Schwarzenegger !!
As for the story itself I sadly have to agree. There’s nothing left of the story with all changes they have to make to avoid any indignation.
Also I had hoped (against better judgement – right Am-I-binned?) to get some info from Transworld, I mailed them to see if there was any news on filming Crisis Four. Guess what…. No answer (yet).
Paul, I am most comfortable in Dutch but have to do with English – just kidding. If you haven’t read on Allreaders: the Dutch publishers do absolutely weird things with titles:
Bravo Two Zero = Bravo Two Zero (no change there)
Immediate Action = SAS Commando (not really strange)
Remote Control = Total Control (??? Why change, if not change into Dutch)
Crisis Four = Crisis Four (not translated)
Firewall = De Huurling (which means The Mercenary - while we use the word Firewall too)
Last Light = De Sluipschutter (which means The Sniper)
Something else Paul, you’re in Australia. Am-I-Binned told me about different versions of Remote Control, US version has 4 more pages compared to UK version. My version misses those 4 pages too, which pissed me off!
How ‘bout yours??
Long version starts with:
(Gibraltar, Sunday March 6, 1988)
We didn’t know which of the three was going to detonate the bomb. (…4 pages)
It always made me feel secure to have guys like him around me.
(Continues with: / Short version starts with: )
I hit Main Street and spotted Bravo One right away.
Till soon,
>>By Lynn (Saturday, 8 Feb 2003 22:36)
Guys,
I'm so dissapointed about what's happening with the film "Crisis Four". Who do you think will be chosen to play Nick Stone?
I wonder how Andy McNab feels about it all now in hindsight? Oh well, hindsight is a prick anyway.
But interesting point about Nick being Josh's sidekick. It doesn't sound too far fetched if it's overhauled by a yankee company. It doesn't appear that the Hollywood geniuses (in all their infinite wisdom) have even read the books with their comment about Nick becoming a more normal guy.
So Lynn, why do the Dutch publishers change the titles? Are they released at the same time as everywhere else? And Lynn, I'm really sorry to say this but yep, us Aussies got the extra 4 pages in Remote Control. When you say "extra" pages, who else missed out on the long version? That bites that they take pages out of the story, it wasn't published by a Hollywood movie company was it? (sarcasm plus)
Now, Buddy, you have brought up an intersting topic about the Death of Nick Stone!!! What does everyone else think?
I agree with Lynn that maybe he should retire, or go into hiding. That way, maybe McNab can blow us all away in about 10 years when he releases the comeback of Nick Stone? Not that he would, but we can live in hope.
Yet there is a certain dignity in the character dying. So what's the general opinion guys?
Take care, speak soon
Paul R
>>By Paul R (Sunday, 9 Feb 2003 00:13)
Feb 8, 2003 - 8pm US EST
I definitely second Lynn's request to spare Nick from a death sentence. But I actually doubt that Andy would or will do such a thing to this particular character (for various reasons that I'll save for another post). Instead, I believe Andy will do as he has indicated in interviews -- Nick will eventually retire, either voluntarily or involuntarily, but his untimely (no matter when!) demise doesn't seem to be in the cards.
I believe that Andy may be able to influence the Nick Stone movie(s) in his role as executive producer, but all decisions in the end will be $$$-driven and compromises and changes will be made to avoid any potential losses. So what if it becomes pablum!; audiences will be expected to swallow anyway, and for those who've not read Andy's books, the films may be very satisfying indeed. It will be his readership who will be disappointed, not necessarily moviegoers.
Which brings up a major sore-point -- his publishers! Here in the US, Andy gets virtually no promotion from Random House. Their only website promotion is for Remote Control, and how long ago was that! And, while he's well recognized in the UK, forget about Transworld -- they couldn't care less about making any efforts on behalf of his readers! In fact, I'd found a Transworld promotion (for copies of Liberation Day) limited to only UK & NI residents. When I asked whether they would include US readers, the reply I received from the Senior VP of Marketing was:
"We are not promoting Andy McNab in the US as we do not publish Andy McNab in the US - any Andy McNab competitions open to US residents would be organised by his US publishers who I believe are called Pocket Books. Despite the fact that this particular competition is not open to US residents, our market is nonetheless rather large so we are not limiting our market by excluding the US.”
Absolutely incredible! And, this is the Senior Marketing Executive -- marketing what! She didn't even know his US publisher! Clueless twit!
(Lynn's aware of an even bigger issue I have with them, but it's not relevant to this discussion.)
Buddy, I still think the direction you proposed a while ago would be an excellent course of action for a Nick Stone storyline...if only you could figure a way to co-author, collaborate, or even ghostwrite!
As a last comment, I'm thinking maybe we're gravitating toward GNOD (http://www.gnooks.com/discussion/andy+mcnab -- for any interested lurkers) because it's much easier to see and read through the postings. (We just need to get timestamps, or do them ourselves for the time being.) Much more like reading through threads in newsgroups....
For the time being tho' I'll just cross-post at both -- all in dedicated commitment to my ongoing mission! (big grin, wink)
_______
Pablum:
noun: (trademark) a soft form of cereal for infants
noun: worthless or oversimplified ideas
>>By am-i-binned (Sunday, 9 Feb 2003 02:01)
I just implemented timestamps...
Read and talk about it here: www.gnoosic.com/discussion/gnod+community.html
Any kind of feedback is welcome.
Best Regards
>>By mg (Sunday, 9 Feb 2003 14:53)
Feb 9, 2003 - 14.20 GMT ST
I never thought Andy would kill Nick Stone off, merely because the character reflects his inner thoughts and reflections, but at least the message board is buzzing again. To kill a leading character can be a very traumatic experience for a writer, and deep loss and genuine grief will be suffered for that loss. Yet, those very ingredients of the author's emotional overload can spill on to the page (or big screen) and have such an impact that one never forgets the character... That's why I mentioned "Harry's Game" and look at the death of "Inspector Morse" all the more poignant because the actor, John Thaw, was suffering cancer and died too...
Andy McNab's writing embodies personal grief and suffering, hence his books stand out amidst a plethora of SAS related books: one can feel his emotion. Did you not feel the dread of finale (Crisis Four) when Nick killed someone he'd been intimate with and his belief that affection he thought had existed between them might have been a one-sided affair. That's why a sequel or series of books based around a lead character provides a reassurance factor. The writer knows the character as well as they know themselves, and elements of their own life that remain unresolved or pose a question mark can be explored through the character. Meantime, other characters come and go...Not all writers write from the heart, and it shows.
I can't speak for all authors on the next point, but when I create a family of characters I dread the day when the characters tell me: "We're sorry about this, but there's been an accident or so and so has committed suicide, or we just can't go on living together, or this has to be the end because we've all had enough..." etc. When writing a book about a family of characters, you can - as the author - be torn apart by their secrets, their lies, and by others' innocence... Right now, I've almost finished rereading/rewriting a romantic psychological suspense - tear-jerker in itself, but the sequel is playing on my mind and causing all manner of unexpected emotions. I know one of two male characters will be killed at the very end of the upcoming sequel, and the problem that I have is the mist hasn't cleared yet and I don't know which one is lying in the mud, and won't until the very end...When I finally finish the sequel, I know I'm going to be an emotional mess for days, possibly weeks = I will grieve the loss, because I know it's going to be one of the most traumatic stories I've ever written: next to the sample of story line I posted on the message board as a Nick Stone story line...
Am-I-Binned: you mentioned co-writing, ghost writing, or collaboration with Andy McNab = about as likely as winning ten quid on the lottery. But, if the chance arose someone would have to pick me up from the floor (first). On the subject of Pablum! I prefer Pabalum: food, especially for the mind! After all, Andy McNab plays mind games with his readers, (what is real what is fiction?) and that's the buzz factor...The film "Crisis Four" whatever the eventual outcome, hopefully will create a greater American readership of AM books on the basis that one hell of a lot movie-goers will want to know more about Nick!!! (the elements of his life they have yet to be party to)
Why the hell do publishers (differing countries) delete pages?
Am-I-Binned's comment on "clueless twit" (Senior Marketing Director at publishing house), reflects the too frequent instance of junior secretaries (clueless but cute) becoming editors within weeks of a dinner-shag date with a managing director. If good at giving Hugh Grant flavoured favours a sec' can make it to personal assistant overnight, and if ever so obliging can make it to own office suite plus brass plaque on desk: "Senior Marketing Director" and in several blinks of an eye!! I have a step-niece with a masters in English literature, pretty girl with a bubbly personality but a little on the chubby side. She tried for jobs with major publishing houses, even did a stint of "work experience" with Harper Collins, but she's ended up working for a small academic press in Oxford. She puts her unsuccessful attempt to enter the junior ranks of a major fiction house as down to her being too well-educated and too fat. The people who interviewed her, she assessed, from the letters received and questions posed at interview, were not too terribly bright but their nail-varnish impeccable!!!
I once sent sample chapters (MacMillan publishers) written in first person viewpoint. It got all the way to a senior editor: her reply enthusiastic but, (bloody big BUT) could I rewrite it in third person viewpoint. Yes, and when I resent the chaps the senior editor that was, was no more, and the new senior editor didn't think it suitable for their present publishing list: ...."excellent story line and I enjoyed reading the sample chapters"...Effectively, nice way of saying: piss off!!
I'd better quit now before I get whipped for posting "yawn yawn" material. Oh, must just say: I never thought I would ever agree with Frederick Forsyth on any subject matter, but I'll back him all the way on what he said on Radio 4s The Moral Maze!!!
>>By buddy (Sunday, 9 Feb 2003 15:24)
Hi, Buddy --
Quick follow-up question for now:
re: FF/Moral Maze -- are you referring to his position on handgun legislation? Or another topic? Please elaborate.
Will try to address other points in your posting a little later today if possible....
>>By am-i-binned (Sunday, 9 Feb 2003 19:39)
Hello !
Re: I never thought Andy would kill Nick Stone off, merely because the character reflects his inner thoughts and reflections
Thanks Buddy, this was what I was thinking when you mentioned ‘come up with another character’. How could he?? It would just be Nick Stone (Andy) with another name.
Re: deep loss and genuine grief will be suffered.
For a writer?? No doubt, but don’t count US out!!
Re: Not all writers write from the heart, and it shows.
Exactly why I said once Andy ‘spoiled’ (for me anyway) the pleasure of reading other authors (of similar – well, similar ;-) – books)
Re: When I finally finish the sequel, I know I'm going to be an emotional mess for days
Reading this something occurred to me. There’s a great bunch of power underneath.
It’s like playing God… You make all the decisions here. You decide who lives or dies..
So are writers just story tellers.. or ‘in control’ while creating a story.
Re: But, if the chance arose someone would have to pick me up from the floor.
I’ll be the first, if you grant me an autograph from both of you!
Re: will create a greater American readership of AM books
At least this time the book won’t let them down…. For we know (fear) the book will be much better.
Re: Am-I-Binned's comment on "clueless twit"
Maybe if I signed my e-mail with, let’s say George Clooney (attractive to both sides) I’d stand a chance on getting an answer from Transworld ????
Well, I did throw away my chance signed as Lynn when posting this ;-)
Re: but I'll back him (Forsyth) all the way on what he said on Radio 4s The Moral Maze!!!
So, what did he say??
Re: Who do you think will be chosen to play Nick Stone?
Hey, we had the same question a while ago (Allreaders) and we still haven’t found the perfect Nick. Am-I-Binned has some ideas, she might want to share with you herself. I said if it’s going to be Brad Pitt I’m not even going to bother seeing the movie (nothing against Brad – but he is absolutely no Nick Stone) but who is?? I (and others) identify Nick too much with Andy I guess, to see another person playing Nick. Even that can’t be anything but a disappointment.
Oh, this is great!! I told you, when I read Remote Control I was thinking ‘this should be a movie’ but now it’s getting real it gets (feels) worse and worse.
Re: Nick being Josh's sidekick
And I thought it couldn’t be any worse….
Re: So Lynn, why do the Dutch publishers change the titles? Are they released at the same time as everywhere else? And Lynn, I'm really sorry to say this but yep, us Aussies got the extra 4 pages in Remote Control.
I hate you! Only joking Paul. Why do they change titles?? Beats me, maybe I should ask sometime. And release is one year after UK release, and only one book a year. Last Light came out last September I believe. So I’ll have to wait quit some time for Liberation Day.
Re: Nick Stone movie(s) in his role as executive producer, but all decisions in the end will be $$$-driven
I’m afraid to ask, but would he (Andy) care? I mean we are all ‘upset’ by mutilation of his books but isn’t Andy going for the $$$ thinking, I carried of the prize, make movie anyway you like.
Or would it hurt, like Buddy says about being a writer of characters??
Take care,
>>By Lynn (Sunday, 9 Feb 2003 20:03)
Re: But, if the chance arose someone would have to pick me up from the floor.
Lynn:I'll be the first, if you grant me an autograph from both of you!
Buddy: If it happened I'd deliver it in person!
Re: Am-I-Binned's comment on "clueless twit"
Lynn: Maybe if I signed my e-mail with, let's say George Clooney (attractive to both sides) I'd stand a chance on getting an answer from Transworld ???? Well, I did throw away my chance signed as Lynn when posting this ;-)
buddy: when approaching pretentious gits (double-barrelled names) I think a typical tabloid journalist persona is best = lie through your teeth and pretend to be one!!! (journo)
Re: but I'll back him (Forsyth) all the way on what he said on Radio 4s The Moral Maze!!!
Lynn: So, what did he say??
buddy: The discussion was about asylum seekers (thousands of young men) who pose as refugees from countries and regions that are no longer or never were zones of political or military unrest. Like Morocco, some Eastern block states, etc. He voiced the frightening way in which these asylum seekers become violent when refused asylum, and the way gun-toting gangs from Eastern Block countries are running drug cartels and pimping prostitutes in major cities. The Yardi problem is really quite small in comparison despite a recent shooting in the Midlands. Need I say more...
Lynn's comment on $$$:
Andy should take the money and run and keep running back to near where he did a lot of his SAS training - a new film complex is being built there with the backing of many famous film producers including Sir Richard Attenborough...
There's Hollywood, Bollywood, and soon to be a Wallyhood, though I think it's going to have a more suitable title than that and is certainly going to be BIG on acreage!!
>>By buddy (Sunday, 9 Feb 2003 23:40)
Dab nab it - last post, last paragraph - Hollywood, Bollywood, and should have read: WallyWood.
Hollywood (American) Bollywood (Indian) Wallywood (Welsh)
Lynn, what sort of story line do you see for Nick Stone in Amsterdam. Diamond related or drug related alongside, what, a kidnap situation?
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 11 Feb 2003 14:00)
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