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Brianwriter... I mean Briauthor.... I mean... oh, you know what I mean. Welcome (back).
MANONFIRE- you're Nemesis, aren't you?
>>By Majorette (Sunday, 3 Oct 2004 22:41)
oops... that's what happens when we cross-post! hahaha
Still, I was right!
>>By Majorette (Sunday, 3 Oct 2004 22:42)
i mentioned that earlier pay attention
>>By MANONFIRE (Sunday, 3 Oct 2004 22:43)
MANONFIRE- STOP POSTING! I can't keep up with ya!
and no, I'm not gonna change my picture back. Just Jon was VERY adament that I never put that one up again.
>>By Majorette (Sunday, 3 Oct 2004 22:43)
well i can't really expect a women to pay attention can i.
>>By MANONFIRE (Sunday, 3 Oct 2004 22:44)
Not any more than you can expect a man to spell correctly.
>>By Majorette (Sunday, 3 Oct 2004 22:45)
hold your fire, i'm taking cover and as usual i'm sitting here laughing you really can't shoot can you, lol
>>By MANONFIRE (Sunday, 3 Oct 2004 22:45)
And you really have no concept of punctuation, do you?
ok, truce.
Welcome back, Nemo. I almost missed ya.
>>By Majorette (Sunday, 3 Oct 2004 22:47)
lol, wave the white flag then
>>By MANONFIRE (Sunday, 3 Oct 2004 22:47)
Nem/Man- are you drunk again? tsk. YOU wave the white flag. I don't own one.
>>By Majorette (Sunday, 3 Oct 2004 22:51)
i watched the film about the sniper killings in dc today, what was it like as americans if you don't mind me asking?
>>By MANONFIRE (Sunday, 3 Oct 2004 22:57)
i thought that it was possibly one of the scariest situations people can be in due to the fact it was so random and there was no specific target.
>>By MANONFIRE (Sunday, 3 Oct 2004 23:02)
Yes, it was very scary. Although Sept 11 stunned me, it didn't really change the way I lived my day to day life (eg, I flew on a commercial jet a few weeks later). The DC sniper shootings, however, made me change my daily life completely. We were afraid to go shopping, go out to eat, even stop for gas. There was no rhyme or reason to how targets were selected. Everyone was a potential target, even kids.
Gas stations put up tarps to prevent their customers from being "spotted" while pumping gas. If you had to pick something up at the grocery store, you had a friend pull up to the curb, drop you off, and wait for you while you ran in. Kids weren't allowed to go out for recess.
All in all, very scary.
>>By Majorette (Monday, 4 Oct 2004 00:47)
Another interesting thing about our DC sniper situation was that the profilers had it completely and utterly wrong. "White male, 40's, acting alone...etc." I often wonder why terrorists and like-minded folks don't turn to sniping more often--as M pointed out, it creates a special kind of fear, even when employed against military personel in war-time. I suppose it's the training and practice involved, also the logistical problem of finding a place to safely train with something chambered for .300 magnum or the like. A single sniper can wreak more havoc than a single bomber, though, I think-- in one day, you could drive around and wreck a hell of a lot of cellular emitters, police/military vehicles and comms, electrical...Uh, I think I'll stop now.
So, Nem, do I send hate mail to Manonfire now?
>>By Just Jon (Monday, 4 Oct 2004 03:16)
This is completely AM Off-Topic guys, I know but I thought you all should know this.
Norway is allowing and organising holiday trips and tours to kill baby-seals.
I thought Norway was a Nature and Animal loving country but I guess that's not so. The fact that there are too many seals is untrue, the fact that the fishing industry is suffering because of the seals is untrue.
I was totally disgusted with the news and the scenes I saw.
So I invite you all to write to the Norwegian Government or Embassy to protest against this useless killing.
You can flork me for the UK-embassy adress.
Thanks for reading this.
>>By borisette (Wednesday, 6 Oct 2004 13:32)
Hide Ortie hide ...
>>By Ninjawoman (Wednesday, 6 Oct 2004 13:59)
On the bright side though they do have some lovely fjords.
Just finished reading dark winter I can't believe andy is that evil, poor Nick.
>>By Mickalos (Wednesday, 6 Oct 2004 15:04)
Mr McNab turned up on the Jeremy Vine show on BBC Radio 2 at about 12:15 today. He was commenting on the demoralised state of the troops in Iraq as more details emerge of the lack of evidence supporting the invasion. He pointed out that soldiers are not fools and are politically aware. The upside for him he says, is that as a director of a private military company, he is gaining plenty of new recruits who realise that, in addition to earning far more money, they don't have to take orders from stupid politicians any more. He also mentioned that he has recently returned from Baghdad where he went out on patrol with army units four times! Still thinks he's immortal then.
go to BBC.co.uk/radio2 for the replay option
>>By camban (Wednesday, 6 Oct 2004 15:36)
I've been following the discussions here for quite a while and Andy McNab sounds like the kind of author I would like to read, but I have a question. Do his books need to be read in a certain order or do the stories stand alone? If I were to start with one of the more recent ones like Liberation Day, would I be able to follow the plot if I haven't read any of the earlier novels?
Are McNab's books similar to Tom Clancy's? That's the impression I have right now.
>>By Mikey_Canuck (Wednesday, 6 Oct 2004 15:42)
Dear Mikey,
No Tom Clancy and Andy Mcnab are totally different in style and in creation of character building..
Example, Andy writes in the first person, some people like this biography style as it makes for easier reading where as Tom is more character driven ..
Though they are both great techno thriller writers, Mcnab's comes from his expierence in the field, where as Tom's comes from his knowledge of technology and millitary history and also poltics...
they are both great authors and are both well worth reading... But i find Andy Mcnab books more engaging because its like reading a memoir it grips you, from the first page. where as with a Tom Clancy i can spend hours just trying to follow the hitchcock style plots, and still have no idea how the book will end...
This is just my point view...
>>By Xander Cage (Wednesday, 6 Oct 2004 16:03)
As an Author, i can only say that it takes years to even write a book sometimes the book you write doesn't even make it to the shelf or even off your PC, or in my case my ibook...There are times when you think you have a great idea for a book only to walk into a store three months later and find someone has beaten you too it...
It doesnt matter what the book is or who the author is, just enjoy it for what it is, a thoroughly good read.
>>By Xander Cage (Wednesday, 6 Oct 2004 16:09)
Hi Mikey, the general consensus around here is that the fiction books should be read in order because there are a number of continuing threads in the story lines. So, start with Remote Control and enjoy, you lucky man!
>>By camban (Wednesday, 6 Oct 2004 16:18)
Yea mikey, you probobly could start further down and have maybe a decent grasp of whats going on but if I were you I'd start from the beggining, you'll get a better picture of whats happening in the later books and his first two are his best until you get to dark winter in my opinion.
>>By Mickalos (Wednesday, 6 Oct 2004 16:23)
Ohman, Camban!
Thanks! I've just listened to the replay. Amazing! He was an unscheduled call-in to the program. But I can't believe they let him off the phone so quickly -- what on earth were they thinking?!? :oD
As to the rest of the program, however... hmmm... maybe I better just keep my Yank mouth tightly shut!!! :o#
Welcome for real, Mikey!
Agreeing with Camban and Mickalos, publication order is the best way to go -- particularly if you start with his bios since bits of AM's own military experiences are woven into the fiction as well.
Bravo Two Zero (bio)
Immediate Action (bio)
Remote Control (fic)
Crisis Four (fic)
Firewall (fic)
Last Light (fic)
Liberation Day (fic)
Dark Winter (fic)
Deep Black (fic) -- release date Nov 4, 2004
Welcome, Xander...
An AM reader and a fellow Clancy-ite, too! I've been a fan of TC and many techno-thriller/military authors for years but since reading B20 all my preferences shifted, AM taking favourite... (well, d'uh! what a surprise!) May I ask what genre you write and if you'd care to share the name of your ibook? :o)
There, there, Mickalos.... (*gentle comfort hug*)
I know, I know... (*softly patting back*)
It's close to a year now, and I'm still in Dark Winter denial... (*sniff, sniff*) ... :*(
>>By am-i-binned (Wednesday, 6 Oct 2004 17:30)
Think I might need a to take a trip to doctor Hughes, but enough about my spirraling decent into madness through the pain of grieving and back to andy mcnab.
You should definately read immediate action at some point, because then you can see how Nick Stone is based on Andy and then when a similarity between their two lives occurs in a book you can give yourself a pat on the back for noticing, say, "Oh yea, that happened to Andy when he was 8 as well," and look smug for a few seconds.
Yep, deffinately need to see a psychiatrist.
*puts underpants on head and walks to the nearest clinic*
>>By Mickalos (Wednesday, 6 Oct 2004 19:24)
I appreciate all the comments. I'm going to read a couple of McNab's books. I'll let you know what I think.
>>By Mikey_Canuck (Wednesday, 6 Oct 2004 20:55)
Although I am not an advocate for the hunting of whales/seals or other marine mammals, I can't help but to think that the cuteness of an animal dictates the degree of sympathy it gets from activists (or members of the public "who care").
If tarantulas or anaconda snakes were threaten by extinction, -or- if Norwegian tourist attraction agencies arranged for "killing safari's" (hmm... unlikely country to stage such a thing for either of those animals, but I digress), I seriously doubt that there would be a public outcry.
Them ugly, creepy, yucky spiders and snakes? "Couldn't care less."
Those cutie baby seals though? "Awwww...... "
By the way -- this stuff has been a part of Norwegian recent news as well, and it has been stated that it is in fact illegal to kill baby seals. And I do mean by the letter of the law, and not the boldly Paul Watson-claimed "international" don't-whack-them-snuggly-cuddly-animals "law".
>>By ortlieb (Thursday, 7 Oct 2004 01:04)
iv just come across this site, im a massive mcnab fan, got all the books, and had bravo two zero video till it got nabbed, and am waiting to find deep black, saw something about miramax getting the rights to crisis four and nick stone, any idea when this will materialise?
i think his writting is ace, and have tried other writters of similar material, but none come close, cris ryan isn't too bad but not on the same level.
just thought id show my appreciation
kay
>>By deniable-kay (Thursday, 7 Oct 2004 22:14)
yea heard about that a long time ago probobly turn out to be an americanised peice of turd but you never know
>>By Mickalos (Thursday, 7 Oct 2004 23:17)
So let's see now, deniable-kay...
Says here on your resume, I mean, your CV... err... profile: "McNab fan, into drag racing and modified cars" {Note to file: Excellent prioritizing skills} And you say you've read all of AM's books? {Comprehensive background and knowledge} Waiting for Deep Black? {Demonstrates commitment and enthusiasm}
Well, I'd say all things considered, deniable-kay: Welcome to F Troop! :o)
Errr... a quick follow-up question if you don't mind, Dk? Just how the heck did someone manage to nab your B20 video?!? ;o)
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 8 Oct 2004 00:35)
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