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Oh my god, I haven't laughed so much in a long while...The translation is absolutely hilarious. By the man a drink, do, he could use that as a training tape for how not to be interviewed by foreigners...
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 00:56)
Since time zones preclude imposing on your translation skills tonight, Lynn and Borisette, I took a shot with an internet translation program. Sheesh! No wonder you're laughing, Buddy.
This is what happened to the paragraph mentioning us:
"It not will for McNab probably also turn out better than expected new friends to make. A lot of men – with name soldier - see him as a living legend. Not really a healthy point of departure. McNab sees that otherwise. The man that opposite me stretch, comes very sober over and is averse to all states round be person. I tell him that I during the preliminary investigation for these interview an internet forum am tegengekomen, true readers from jumble land with each other talk over its books, the translations with each other compare and it also over himself have – for instance, who he already then not murdered would have, and when. Andy reacts enormous amazed: “Really?” calls he out. “ …That is been frightened. …That people nothing have better to do?” "
www.crimezone.nl/magazine/november/p1.html
Oddly, the link to gnooks goes directly to pg. 98, which happens to fall right in the middle of our proposed questions for Tom Pun's INK interview. Okay, Tom, 'fess up, were you working under cover for Esther Verhoef the whole time? Or (gasp!) was she just using you to get to us? vbg! vbw!
And for your listening... err, uhm... pleasure (?), sample the music that's been added to this link: www.randomhouse.co.nz/features/McNAB/main.html -- good grief -- AM anime muzak!
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 04:13)
Oh man! This is what happens when I don't get a chance to keep up on the board for a couple of days! You guys go all gonzo on me and type PAGES of stuff!
B.A.B.E.S-- You guys are hilarious! Looking forward to the next installment. :)
Re Feelings: Now I didn't say Nick or AM didn't have a soul or anything like that. Andy just doesn't have him spouting off all the time about them. That's ok by me, but I'm sorry Andy is putting Nick through the wringer. I was hoping Andy would allow Nick to mellow out a bit and still let him do his job. It isn't impossible and would make for great reading. Maybe let Nick realize he's worth more than the paltry sums of money he's paid for his job. Make decisions based on that and shoot the f***ers that are scr**ing around with him and his. What can I say? I'm a touchy-feely kind of person myself. ;)
Re Techy stuff: While I could care less what kind of gun Andy has Nick use and the intricacies of the different mechanisms employed to get the job done, it's part of the atmosphere. I wouldn't know if Andy's being accurate or blowing smoke, but the info certainly develops a certain feel for what's going on. At least for me. Probably for other readers too, or the books wouldn't sell so well. ;) It's kind of like Clancy telling us all far more than we needed to know about submarines in "Hunt for Red October". THAT man has a serious obsession with subs! :) If I get really bogged down on the hardware, I just skip ahead a couple of paragraphs to get the action rolling again. Then end up having to go back and read the skipped parts anyway but that's why I buy them, so I can read them as many times as I wish. Meaning LOTS!!!
Re Flashbacks: There are lots of ways to go about writing in flashbacks. He could have rewritten the scenes maintaining the basic elements with more info or emotional involvement, but since Nick doesn't really go over that stuff in his head by choice Andy may have felt it wouldn't ring true. He could have written as buddy suggested, by adding a few more details but keeping the prose essentially the same. Truthfully, I would have liked this because I enjoy anything new about Nick and how his mind works, but Andy chose to not do it this way. Possibly because readers would have been questioning why he changed things after the fact and maybe there was more going on than he told us, that it was sloppy storytelling he was trying to cover up now, that he got it wrong. Only Andy (and maybe his editors) know why he wrote it the way he did. It works though there will always be readers who want more or something a bit different. I guess that's the nature of enjoying art and the artist, in whatever forms it's given. :)
All in all, I loved DW, but then I've loved all of AM's books so far.
>>By Dare (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 05:19)
Hey chaps, chin up...
What he said (AM - have they nothing better to do) would have been accompanied with a wry smile...
As adoring fans you feel like you've been kicked in the stomach by your god. Well, now you know what it felt like for him post B20 and after, long after! Of course he has friends, but like I pointed out a few posts ago, it takes a very special person to become his friend (trusted friend). Admittedly, for some people it would be a two-way thing, more so when he joined the ranks of freelance journalism/article writing...
Twisted words and misinterpretation - often misinformation before factual evidence is outed - clearly journalists' forte...Having said that, some get it right at the start, yet investigative journalists have been known to hinder and even botch police/intel agency missions...
How you all doing on the chin front, now?
Damn it all, you've come down hard on me for posting stuff that you all felt defensive about. Kinda cute, in that you went on AM's defensive and your own sometimes, (thinking personal slight) but half the time your passionate adoration blinded you to what I was actually saying...
Yet, all it takes is a Dutch Crime Zone site to post an interview with a hint that a bunch of googly-eyed women spend their days assessing/discussing his undergarments, his women, his writing, etc., and you all feel gutted...
He knows how valuable his fan base is, and unless he tells you, personal like *to eff off* you're OK...
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 09:28)
He secretly likes strong women even if a tad in awe of 'em...
You're all telling us how NS is a reflection of AM, and if you take into account the type of women NS meets/works with, well need I say more...
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 09:36)
"How you all doing on the chin front, now?"
Well I walked into a door yesterday so mine's a little sore, but thank you for asking. But really do you expect anything else? I'd laugh if people wrote about me.
Bones? Garnishes? I'm not going to post the first thing that came to mind, it's 8.30 am and far too early for constructive thought.
On the flashback point. What did it have to do with the major storyline? Don't read those repeats and what do you lose? Not a whole lot. It read like filler. As though the publisher said "Mr McNab you're only at 300 pages and we need 310 come on pad a bit out sonny" (decide for yourselves what accent the publisher has). So, if someone picks up DW as their first AM book and then thinks hey that was good I'll read the rest they're going to go straight to Remote Control and read the same thing again. Hardly going to impress a new reader is it.
>>By Bethan (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 09:44)
Refresh your memories now, the next installment is coming soon to a theatre near you (no yankee spelling here ha ha). Round it goes, where will it stop??
>>By B.A.B.E.S (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 09:55)
"How you all doing on the chin front, now?"
Still pouting..
AM should think before speak, like I always do !!!
.......eeeerrrrrr........
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 10:02)
I'm really, really, truly sorry AM for laughing at this bit of the Dutch interview: Bear in mind folks it is a freebie electronic translation, but oh so Dickensian Dutch...
"We ate at home for days 'teddyberenpap' : bread with milk and sugar, that my mother warmed up on an on its sharp gelegde stove because the gas closed was. There was no view. There nothing was. That it also other roads be came not once in you on."
"teddyberenpap" sorry, sorry, AM, and the "no view", the "nothing was" and "other roads came not once in you on"
Where was he, down a hole in the road with a Royal Post Office Telecommunications tent around it. God, does anyone else remember those things, and men sat on wire coils drinking char?
AM's Peckham Dutch style don't sound like Peckham in the swinging sixties, with the highest rate of employment since the great depression in the 30s. Gee, social security at least bought the "poor" dripping sandwiches...
God, I can remember asking my nanny could I have a dripping a sandwich to see what it tasted like, after reading Just William or some other book a cousin of mine had on his shelf...I got hooked on the things...
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 10:35)
Uhm... Buddy?
Re: "Chin up" and being "kicked in the stomach"...
Maybe if you re-read our posts more closely, you'll realize that what we said would have been accompanied with a wry smile. Our sarcasm must have escaped you...
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 12:47)
*Our* being?
Bit presumptuous to speak for *all* with notable preclusion!
Your sarcasm rarely escapes notice it must be said, but in this case I guess feeling of "kicked in the stomach" is a lot more personal for some, more than others...
Tom Pun?
I know it's panto season over here - oh sorry, Americans are not up on the slapping of thighs, and shouts of "He's behind you" - but really, we Brits (some of us) can laugh at ourselves even when covered in slap-stick s**t, and what's a kick in the stomach to a bullet in the head...
Why might someone come here and tell us to get a life, or alternatvely make a joke about the board elsewhere? Same way posters joke about CR and other writers...
Make yourself high-profile status and that puts you fair and square of the limelight for Ridiculedom starring, Pathos, Ethos, Egotisus as Aladdin in "Who Lit up the Wrong Bleeding Lamp, also starring Punintended as Widow twanky....
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 14:04)
Hey we've all (Brits that is) tasted SouthWold "Bread and Buppy Pudding", North Country "Spotted Dick & Custard", but most of us avoid "Yorkshire Puddy" topped off with Jam!!
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 14:10)
What all this 'Brits' of late Buddy?
Tour of England?
Wish I could understand more of what you're saying :o)
Something else about the interview: Interviewer asked why he'd join the army. Answer was that the army raised him, give him (sort of) everything and that if it wasn't for the army he would have been in some jail now " just like my younger brother is now"
Did I miss that somewhere?
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 14:52)
Oooh, pretty fireworks!!!
Re: "Make yourself high-profile status and that puts you fair and square of the limelight...."
Just who'z we bez a-talkin' 'bout now, Buddy, huh? Couldn't be me ol' pal, Mr. Contradiction Orwatt*, could it?
* as in missed her contradiction or what :o)
Hmmm... whaddaya think? Just a tad too presumptuous for this sarcastic Yank? Or too sarcastic for this presumptuous Yank? ;oD
Seriously now, please lighten up on me a bit, will ya? All your pokin' and proddin' tryin' to find hot buttons has worn me down... obviously... :o)
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 15:10)
Yes, Lynn, I thought the comment about his younger brother was interesting, too. Only time I recall him mentioning his younger brother was in IA:
"My mum and dad moved down to Herne Bay when I was little. It didn't work out and they had to try and get back on the council. My mother got pregnant and had a baby boy, and I had to live with my Aunty Nell for a year."
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 15:25)
Andy McNab Interview gratis "INK Magazine"
January issue out on 11th December.
Straight from the horse' mouth editorial department INK, so to speak...
<< sprinkles magic dust >>
Fairy Godmother.
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 16:15)
BTW, no link between "INK Magazine" UK & "CrimeZone" Magazine Netherlands, not even tentative touch zone.
Shine that spotlight if you will...
Point anyone at a red shiny button and say don't press it and it will get pressed...
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 16:19)
The editor or INK has a horses' mouth?! Oops Buddy, do you think you can say that in public? :o)
Re: Point anyone at a red shiny button and say don't press it and it will get pressed...
Hahaha! I think there's a cure for that, it's called adultness.. :o)
Ooooh, wouldn't we all like to remain kids..
What???? We are?? Who said that???
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 16:25)
Who mentioned Yanks?
Just thought, as England won the Rugby World Cup, we'd fly the Union Jack for a change, which holds true as the red white and blue for our Scottish, Welsh, and NI clans as well... What's wrong with a bit of sporting patriotism?
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 16:29)
Maybe we should make a quilt - ours is red-white-blue too.
But we can get some other colours added... flags enough around here.
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 16:33)
Hey Lynn, red buttons and juvenile behaviour...
Honest, a rally driver I know, once looked up and said, under his breath in response to the appearance of a well-endowed woman wearing a real tight T-shirt. "J***s, tits like organ stops, that one."
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 16:36)
No guessing what he wanted to press!!
>>By buddy (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 16:38)
How did you know I as there Buddy???
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 16:42)
Ohmigosh, Buddy, I hadn't realized it's all a matter of "spin"! So, if I understand you, you're saying it's simply a matter of pointing someone at the button and they respond accordingly, eh?
Ooops! Then who is pushing whose buttons? LOL!!! ;oD
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 17:07)
I've just got to say leave poor Buttons alone, he works hard enough at Christmas as it is.
I feel sorry for the guy, all the prodding he'll be sore.
>>By B.A.B.E.S (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 19:34)
Does anyone know if LAHO exists in parachuting terms.
It's been all day that the lads are dropping down from these Hercules plains, they fly over my "Manor" but they sort off fly low, open their chutes immediatly and in 3 sec. they're down.
Or maybe we're having some invasion and I don't know anything about it, will look at the news immediately.
>>By borisette (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 19:52)
An Buddy as for your rally driver : more then pressing the Buttons he'd ave wanted to play with them.
That reminds me .... I once knew this horse-jockey and he wanted to..... but that's another story and other buttons
>>By borisette (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 19:55)
... (talking about buttons.) just like Mr Andy, when he first enrolled in the Army, who dreamed to fly helicopters and land on the beach, to then let the girls play with his joystick!
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
http://deusrexmachina.supereva.it/PersonalPics/
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>>By Deusrexmachina (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 21:50)
borisette:
Were they freefalling before they opened their parachutes?
From the sound of it, they're jumping by the "static" method: their parachutes being hooked up on a wire in the plane, so when they jump out of the plane their chutes are getting pulled open automatically. (Just like in the beginning of episode 2 in Band of Brothers....)
>>By ortlieb (Tuesday, 25 Nov 2003 23:05)
Must have been an interesting interview. Has most of it been posted here by now? :) Can't get some of the pages to come up that are contributed by kind posters so I'm a little bummed. :( Ah well.
Andy's got a pretty good, wry sense of humor. That's one of the major reasons most of us are fans so I wasn't worried about his statement. :)
>>By Dare (Wednesday, 26 Nov 2003 01:18)
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