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We could sue them.

>>By borisette   (Thursday, 27 Nov 2003 12:48)



Joke :

"Kids don't worry when you see a man tucking you in at night. It's your dad...........

or Michael Jackson

(ok it's a joke of bad taste, and nothing to do with AM or whatever)

>>By borisette   (Thursday, 27 Nov 2003 12:53)



SCENE ONE - ACT TWO Dick Wittington .

It is daybreak outside Alderman Fitzwarren's front door. TAIL (ex SAS Corp) is standing at door, pockets seemingly bulging and a bush nearby twitches some. (a lot) In the background market stall holders are setting out their wares.

KNOCK KNOCK!

VOICE: Who's there?

TAIL: FART & Co!

VOICE: FART & Co?

TAIL: Fast Action Register'd Traders wiv Special Access Services.

DOOR OPENS:

PUSSKINS, (all *buttoned* up in smart velvet garb and shiny new thigh boots) Yeah, an' I just been hired as head of security for Pussy-Pocket Products!

TAIL: (scratches head) Pussy-Pocket Products?

CAT SIDLES CLOSER. Made an impression, see. CAT THEN INCLINES HEAD INDOORS. New Line in Heavy Breathing Action Novels.

TAIL: Yeah, so I see. Yer still got cream on yer whiskers, mate. TAIL MAKES TO PUSH PAST. Now then, Pussy-Pocket Galore Security Hofficer, you's wasting precious time I don't 'ave like.
TAIL GLANCES AT T (my little pony pic) WATCH. (still forty three seventeen). HE SHAKES HEAD DISBELIEVINGLY.

TAIL: (Jerk all you want mate, I'm e'er to see Alderman Fitzwarren.

PUSSKINS: Me a jerk!

SNIGGERS HEARD IN TWITCHING BUSH.

MEANTIME A MERCHANT OF VENICE STROLLS TO CENTRE MARKET PLACE Singing "Just one Cornetto, from Italeeee... "
(aka Borisette, looking very yum-yum in bright red low-cut tunic, bright shiny red thigh boots topped with golden tassles)

NEARBY BUSH TWITCHES EVEN MORE.

PUSSKINS: 'S'cuse me. STRIDES PAST TAIL.

TAIL STEPS INSIDE CLOSES AND BOLTS DOOR <<Another scene for later).
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ACT TWO SCENE TWO.

CAT COVERTLY FOLLOWS MERCHANT OF VENICE AROUND THE MARKET STALLS AS THE PUNK RATS EMERGE FROM TWITCHING BUSH.

PUNK RAT 1 (aka Beth) E're, Pussy-Pocket Productions eh?

PUNK RAT 2: (aka bikergirl) Yeah, so w'aaaat? EYES LIGHTS UP. 'Plan B then, innit?

THEY (in unison) DRAG DICK FROM BUSH.

DICK: I can't, no, no, please, not ever again.

THE PUNK RATS LOOK AT EACH OTHER THEN AT DICK.

PUNK RAT 2: (Grabs Dick, threateningly) You do what we say, right?

DICK (aka AIB): Ouch! (vbg)

PUNK RAT 1: Let's tie 'im up.

THEY SHOVE DICK BACK INTO BUSH.

IT RUSTLES SOME, THEN THE PUNK RATS EMERGE AND SCAMPER OFF AS PUSSKINS SAUNTERS TOWARD THEM.

PUSSKINS: (stands back to bush) I know you're in there. (hushed whisper)

DICK: Get me outa here I'm a celebrity.

AUDIENCE HEARD: DOH!!!!!

PUSSKINS: Not a chance.

DICK: why?

PUSSKINS: It ain't in the script.

DICK: Who wrote it, I'll kill him.

PUSSKINS: Her, actually, it's a her what wrote it.

DICK: Aw, com'n Puss, be nice, I like you, underneath it all (teeth heard grinding). I need to get out of here, right now. I didn't take any IMODIUM last night.

CUE MUSIC: strings of Move Closer strafe the theatre.

CAT BACKS CLOSER TO BUSH AND DISCREETLY PUSHES ELONGATED BOX WELL INTO DARK INTERIOR OF THE BUSH.

DICK: Oh what? (hands tied)

PUSSKINS: Tough! It's your favourite brand of cling wrap. OH, and BTW. I'm head of security for Pussy-Pocket Products now.
PUSSKIN IDLY PICKS AT CLAW AS BUSH SHAKES, VIOLENTLY SO.

DICK: Oh shit!

PUSSKINS MOVES RAPIDLY DOWN WIND OF BUSH.

<<CURTAIN FALLS>>

MERCHANT OF VENICE POPS HEAD AND SHOULDERS THROUGH CURTAIN tO ADDRESS AUDIENCE..

M of VEN: You like me?

AUDIENCE: YES!

M of VEN: How much you like?

AUDIENCE SHOUTS: Like you a lot!!!

M of VEN: Ah, so will you help me find Mr Andy McNab? I know he here somewhere, in disguise.

AUDIENCE SHOUTS: why?

M of VEN: Because I want make big money like godfather. Kidnap Ransom the real thing quicker than write book a'bout it.

AUDIENCE: Ahhhhhhhhh!

M of VEN: So you will help, and tell me when you think you have seen him?

AUDIENCE: YESSSSSSSSS!

M of VEN: That is so kind of you. (blows kiss to audience)

<<CURTAIN CLOSES>>


ACT TWO SCENE THREE: Will ALICE (aka Lynn) escape Tail's clutches, and release DICK before the PUNK RATS return for their captive?

>>By buddy   (Thursday, 27 Nov 2003 13:07)



PUNK RAT 2 (aka Bikergirl)...i'm likin' this...
PUNK RAT 2: (swivels foot back and forth on spiked heel)...that'd be right...promptly followed by falling off said heel...

accent is spot on too...blimey no-one'd guess oi've lived 'ere all me loif...*lol*
excellent work buddy...

>>By bikergirl   (Thursday, 27 Nov 2003 13:25)



Thanks Buddy :o)
(love those My little Pony watches - think I'll take one home after final curtain hehe)

>>By Lynn   (Thursday, 27 Nov 2003 13:31)



Ohmigosh!!!

It's a War of the Proses (BABES vs Buds). How to choose, how to choose?!?

Hahaha, Buddy, you bring the double-entendre to a whole different level -- makes me appreciate our dynamic duo even more than before!

>>By am-i-binned   (Thursday, 27 Nov 2003 15:14)



gee whiz buddy, I did not get a part. Very upsetting to the public at large. You must find a spot for us lurkers. Please, Please adem, or at least find room in some future acts. Maybe I could be the crazy Yank

>>By DTO   (Thursday, 27 Nov 2003 15:53)



Sorry, got side-tracked from my original intention for posting today...

Today is Thanksgiving Day for us (US), a day to reflect on what is important and what we appreciate. As I lay in bed this morning I was thinking how grateful I am to AM and to MG for all the wonderful friends they've brought me here in AM-land and florkworld. It's been a truly wonderful year, and God willing, we'll enjoy many, many, many more...

(Psst, MG... do you have enough webspace set aside for us?)

(Psssssst, Andy! Feel free to chime in any time now, okay?)

>>By am-i-binned   (Thursday, 27 Nov 2003 15:54)



Well Happy Thanksgiving all of you there... ! :o)

*** Little DW spoiler ***

I am almost 'over' Dark Winter, tissue-free at last.. So almost ready for discussion.... so there's my happy thought for the day..

Take care :o)

>>By Lynn   (Thursday, 27 Nov 2003 16:55)



LOL! Interesting stuff, buddy. You guys need to type slower though. I don't have nearly enough time to keep up with all of this mad punning and spoofing! Maybe I can go over it again in between basting times. Ummmm... turkey basting, that is.

Yes, hope everyone has a great day, no matter which side of the pond they are on. :)

>>By Dare   (Thursday, 27 Nov 2003 17:38)



Happy thanksgivingsday to all of ya!!!!!

Fanzx Buddy for putting me in.. pitty red isn't my colour.. and hope the audience in the end will help me find AM, (if he hasn't left yet) so I can truly ask for the randsom, but who shall I ask...??Maybe CR could help me .

>>By borisette   (Thursday, 27 Nov 2003 20:42)



i've been getting emails about Mr. McNab wondering if i've interviewed him. I haven't interviewed him but if he comes through Canada with his latest, there is a good chance that my little bookclub will have a half hour of air time with him if we are lucky. I will give plenty of notice. good reading to us all...

>>By Sexibeast   (Friday, 28 Nov 2003 04:53)



Welcome, Sexibeast...

(ohmi, and we only just met!)...

Thanks for the offer of advance notice if an interview with AM materializes! That would be excellent, especially since we usually find out about such things after the fact. From your comment, "good reading to us all...," may we assume you read AM? And if so, all or which of his books? Also wondering: Has Dark Winter been released yet in Canada?

>>By am-i-binned   (Friday, 28 Nov 2003 09:16)



I haven't cracked the plastic wrap on any of his work yet as i'm caught up in tomes of mostly Canadian authors. I've read the classics as a youth but mostly non-fiction as an adult until getting this gig.
To Answer your question, yes Dark Winter is out.

Regards,

>>By Sexibeast   (Friday, 28 Nov 2003 10:49)



Hi again, Sexibeast...

A follow-up question if you don't mind (since my assumption that you read AM was off the mark):

When you said, "i've been getting emails about Mr. McNab," were you talking about flork messages or regular emails from other than here in Gnod's flork-world?

>>By am-i-binned   (Friday, 28 Nov 2003 11:23)



Belated HAPPY THANKSGIVING to American cousins. Was oh so busy yesterday preparing dinner for friends.

Welcome Sexibeast: Rebel from Canada, huh? (nod & wink)

>>By buddy   (Friday, 28 Nov 2003 11:59)



ACT TWO SCENE THREE: Dick Wittington...

The Market place is bereft of bright coloured stalls, and it's getting dark as Alderman Fitzwarren fumbles with key-fob hooked awkwardly in his pantaloons.

FITZWARREN (aka local big wigged publisher): Dash it, darn it, why I am now't but all thumb these days.

NEARBY BUSH RUSTLES. (snigger heard)

FITZWARREN: What-what. Who goes there? HE LOOKS AROUND, SNIFFS THE EVENING AIR. TAKES A STEP CLOSER TO BUSH. Come out come out who ever you be. HE BOLDLY HOLDS HIS SNUFF-BOX TOPPED CANE ALOFT. By gad, verminous RATS for sure. HE TAKES OUT LACE HANDKERCHIEF to COVER NOSE. By gad, by gad, them varmints have blocked the sewers.

UP STRIDES SCOTSMAN IN KILT (aka guess who): Yee need'na worry, och no. Freeflo & Hangloose at your service.

FITZWARREN EYES THE SCOTSMAN (air of scepticism)

FITZWARREN: You are... Hangloose I shouldn't wonder?

SCOTSMAN: Och Aye! HE LOOKS AT FITZWARREN. I see you have a wee problem, too.
FITZWARREN: Wee problem?

SCOTSMAN: One toggle short of a full Sporran and late for dinner.

FITZWARREN GLANCES AT HOOKED KEY FOB. (Coughs - nearly chokes)

SCOTSMAN PROCEEDS TO PROD THE BUSH.

FITZWARREN: A little matter of too much brandy after lunch.

SCOTSMAN: Molly Muff at the Pheasant & Partridge, noo that's a bestseller.

FITZWARREN HURRIES TO HIS FRONT DOOR. WRENCHES KEY-FOB FROM PANTALOONS, BUT CANNOT UNLOCK DOOR.

DICK WHIT (in bush) Pssst! Psssst!

STARTLED, SCOTSMAN DROPS HIS POLE, TURNS, AND PICKS IT UP.

DICK: Now that face I dio recognise!

PUSSKINS STRIDES CENTRE STAGE.

PUSSKINS: Well, well, one fanning a bush and tother screwing a lock.

ENTER BAREFOOT WOMAN WEARING JUST A U.S. NAVY TUNIC (Tropical kit) SINGING - (cue music) "I'm gonna wash that man right out'a my hair..."

ALDERMAN FITZWARREN's CANE BANGS FLOOR, SCOTSMAN'S POLE STANDS TO ATTENTION, AND PUSSKINS TAIL TREMBLES.

U.S. NAVY TUNIC (aka Dare): West End, East End London... Heck, sure ain't Broadway. REMOVES REFLECTIVE SHADES. Couldn't see my name in lights, but saw the flash-strip on the poster out front.

PUSSKINS: Flash-strip?

U.S. NAVY TUNIC: It clearly says starring Who, Dare, & Win and somethin' about F-Troop. Guess the F-thingy is a tack-on to the show.

PUSSKINS TURNS TO AUDIENCE AND SNIGGERS AS FITZWARREN STRIDES TOWARD U.S. NAVY TUNIC.

FITZWARREN: Flash-strip, flash strip (consternation) we can't have no flash strip here. There's kiddywinks in the house.

PUSSKINS: Who Dares Wins, matey! (VVBG) LOOKS AT U.S.NAVY TUNIC'S SHORT HEMLINE. We're the knickers troop, first on, first in.

SCOTSMAN CHUCKLES.

SCOTSMAN: Och aye (VBW-VBG) a wee pop in the right direction from backstage fer yee m'lass, eh...er laddie. South Pacific bound, my way.

SCOTSMAN SHOVES U.S. NAVY TUNIC OFF STAGE. NEARBY BUSH SHUDDERS A LOT. CUE MUSIC: I did it My way.

ENTER CLIP-BOARD BOY WITH AMERICAN ACCENT (out of breath)

C-B.BOY (aka DTO): I think you have one of ours?

PUSSKINS: Not anymore chum. Went that-a-away with Whiskey Mac. POINTS OPPOSITE DIRECTION TO U.S. NAVY TUNIC'S ENFORCED EXIT.

C-B. BOY: Thanks, but before I go. CROSSES LEGS (exageratedly) Is there a jon, er, lav nearby.

PUSSKINS & FITZWARREN: (in unison) NO, but there's a bush over there.

SUDDENLY ALICE LEANS OUT BEDROOM WINDOW OF FITZWARREN'S HOUSE AND SHOUTS FOR HELP.

<<CURTAIN FALLS AS TWO PUNK RATS SNEAK CENTRE STAGE - BEHIND PUSSKINS AND ALDERMAN FITZWARREN>>

>>By buddy   (Friday, 28 Nov 2003 12:01)



Hello! Looks like there I am in half me glory! Never was into the pantomime thing, but I do look good in a Navy uniform. ;)

So Lynn, how much longer till we can discuss away on DW? :)

Hello Sexibeast! Sounds like you have a plum job. Lucky you! Welcome to the board.

>>By Dare   (Friday, 28 Nov 2003 14:14)



Hi Dare...
Since I'm just showing off, now is as good a time as any... :o)

Ok Dark Winter * WARNING* If you don't want to know - fingers in eyes !!!


I really enjoyed reading it. The cutting & pasting from Remote Control, ah well. RC is my favourite. I liked Nick working with Suzy, the story was good and pretty scary (because it's so real). I loved Kelly being back. And for the end: if a story is meant to bring out any emotions - the ending certainly did. But again I could imagine to live the story.. to be there.. because of the detailed description. Maybe not everyone likes that... but I do.
The story didn't bore me at any time. I was not disappointed after a long wait. Now I am disappointed - to have to wait again.
Only negative thing I have to say - after last page I said 'I hate you Andy McNab' But that was personal - didn't mean the story wasn't good - actually it meant that it WAS good :o)
Suzy was a nice character and I prefer the dancing around with Nick above actually having sex. Much more exiting.
Just some thoughts: one thing I was wondering about is what Suzy was doing with that gum - was she spitting (gobbed) that out ?? Maybe I didn't understand that right but if she did I'm sure that was a joke. Wiping your saliva but leaving your gum behind? Or maybe investigators are only smart enough to look inside, not right outside the door. Or maybe she gobbed real far. Then: Lipstick on glasses - NOT in Lipfinity century haha.
Nick was more (often) emotional, though I feel sorry for the guy it gives him an even higher ‘cuddle factor’ (can’t help it – it’s a girl reviewing). Dark Winter felt a bit like a ‘finale’ – an ending of where it all began (with Kelly and the Kev/Marsha house. So I’m really curious what he has planned for the next book. :o)


>>By Lynn   (Friday, 28 Nov 2003 17:09)



Lynn, it won't be "Cuddle Factor" - too dangerous for AM...Stay detached and cry alone his style...

Know only too well where he's coming from on that one...

RE adverse to pantomime: Yeah, Dare, it's takes guts to swallow self-deprecating humour with a smile on your face...

Now you're back to discussing books (DW) I'll quit posting Panto stuff. (did I hear great sighs of relief?)

>>By buddy   (Friday, 28 Nov 2003 17:37)



buddy: For it TO BE self-deprecating, I'd have to be the one producing it. Or the humour would have to be aimed at yourself since you are the writer. :) Hence, the "self" at the beginning of the word. ;)

Lynn: Yes, I agree with you about DW. SPOILER WARNING!!!

The story was very well constructed and told. Andy has a very entertaining style of writing, even when the subject matter isn't so ... pleasant or entertaining. I didn't think any portion of it was boring. The cut and paste thing is a matter of style and like any technique of that sort, it could be done differently. I would have preferred a little fleshing out, but Andy chose that method for a reason. It was good in RC and it's still good in DW. :)

I am really disappointed that he found it necessary to get rid of Suzy and Kelly. It doesn't bode well for Nick's future. I'd like to think that Andy will be kind to Nick and allow him to have a happy ending.... We'll see.

I liked his relationship with Suzy, but I don't think it was anything that would have lasted very long anyway. They were a good team. She was an interesting character and maybe if they had more time together, they would have had a chance. Nick does have a weakness for apple-scented shampoo, doesn't he though? ;)

As for the finale... There are some things that don't add up with how the bad guys found Kelly. It seemed to be too easy or coincidental. I'm wondering if perhaps Yes-man sold her up the creek so they would have leverage on Nick, send him for the rest of DW, and thereby put it into play where YM and Co. could pick it up easily. A simple manipulation for YM, and well-conceived since the Source's children were in jeopardy and turn-around would strike an emotional balance for him. If that's what happened. ;)

And to really throw the cat amongst the pigeons, I liked Carrie. :) She could be very good for Nick and I hope she comes to her senses, stops letting her dad manipulate her and tries to make a go of it with Nick. I hope Nick tells George to go f*** himself and if George gets too unpleasant about it, Nick should just put a bullet in his head. YM and Co. should get the treatment w/o giving them an option to play nice.

There are plenty of things a fellow like Nick could do to make a buck in this world. He should give himself the benefit of the doubt. He's a nice person that's done a nasty job and done it well. Time to do something for himself. Let's hope Andy will play nice and let Nick have a good future. I do like happy endings. :)


>>By Dare   (Friday, 28 Nov 2003 19:37)



**** DARK WINTER SPOILER WARNING ***

Nick does have a weakness for apple-scented shampoo - lol !
Must say I prefer peach myself - think he'll like that too?? haha probably too sweat.

How Kelly was found is not very clear no. We did talk about revenge here somewhere I think - and if Nick is any of what we think he is he won't leave Kelly and Suzy's faith without retaliation. At least I hope not. So maybe we'll know about it in the next book. In that way it certainly don't have to be a finale - plenty of story left. But it did feel that way a little because RC started with the house and Kelly and they both ended in DW.
I do like happy - never been very fond of endings though :o)

Buddy
"it won't be "Cuddle Factor" - too dangerous for AM"
Well, Nick has come a long way since RC.. who knows what might happen - two more to go :o)
There is one part in the book that I love absolutely the most (p.232):
Nick? What? I love you. The antibiotics attacked my stomach again.


>>By Lynn   (Friday, 28 Nov 2003 20:39)



hehehe

Yeah, that was good, Lynn. :) And the letter gets me all misty, too. "Cuddle Factor" is certainly on the rise with that guy! ;)

>>By Dare   (Friday, 28 Nov 2003 20:45)



Dare, Self-deprecating, oh absolutely, but not necessarily on a personal basis!!

Being able to laugh at one's self is only part of the fun, laughing at your country and leaders another aspect. Bill Bryson a prime example of American blood accepted into British society and therefore his humour (laughing at Brits) fine by us.

Pusskin was about to get minced good and proper by the Punk Rats...

Maybe your panto part was just too small, huh? Never mind, hon, you're star quality on blowing plots sky high...

No need for anyone to read Dark Winter, now, to know what happens...Nice work....

Spoiler Warning is as good as a NEON sign....

Take care now, AM don't much like smarmites...

>>By buddy   (Friday, 28 Nov 2003 20:59)



Lynn, shame on you for falling foul of tipping the DW bean can after Dare opened it...

What's to discuss, now? Go ever the same threads of how AM writes, his emotional side, theorise his next books, - it's just another title - of dear so long to the next?

Not much suspense left for those who haven't read it, is there?

Never mind, some people just gotta be first with the big news.

>>By buddy   (Friday, 28 Nov 2003 21:06)



Indeed, I am star quality, but as far as blowing plots, if someone wants to read after the spoiler warning that's their affair, not mine. That's what the SPOILER WARNING!!!

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I'd love to have a chat with Andy about "smarmites" or any other subject that might come up, if he likes. ;) And whether he would like me or not, makes absolutely NO difference to the fact that I like his books and the character he's created. :)

As far as laughing at oneself or one's country and leaders, got no problem with that, but those are different kinds of humour. One is self-deprecating and still follows the previously stated rules to be considered self-deprecating. The other is political satire. They may be similar in tone but aren't the same. ;)

>>By Dare   (Friday, 28 Nov 2003 21:14)



Spoiler warning - means: Spoiler warning.
If you can come up with a better way to discuss the books - feel free to spoil Buddy.

>>By Lynn   (Friday, 28 Nov 2003 22:13)



Regardless of Spoiler Warnings, and taking into account numerous reviews of DARK WINTER on the Internet, I think it a travesty that a postee on the Andy McNab board would actually reveal the ending, when the book has been out less than a few weeks!!!

When is it due to be released Stateside? You sure you don't work for an enemy camp, like making sure the book has no mystery and therefore don't bother to buy it!!!?


Two salient characteristics of the English, according to recent tradition, are their sense of humour and their self-deprecation, so self-deprecating humour is usually blessed with success. We enjoy sending ourselves up, as long as it's done kindly and with no real sting - mockery is in the style of Dad's Army and Fawlty Towers, and the early comedy of Beyond the Fringe, which was not so much satire (though it is always labelled as such) as a mockery of particular kinds of Englishness.

>>By buddy   (Friday, 28 Nov 2003 22:54)



One thing's for sure, and clear enough in AM's books, betrayal is his pet hate, and in a way Dare, you've just betrayed the writer you supposedly admire: muchly...

>>By buddy   (Friday, 28 Nov 2003 23:04)



If Dare spoiled anything she wasn't the first. I knew the end long before I read the book - after the book was out a couple of DAYS.
And that spoiler came without a warning !

Off board we have been talking if there is another way to discuss the book. So any suggestions are welcome...
And if there are posters who would prefer not to discuss the book the way we just did (with spoiler warning) - please tell.
So let's discuss discussions. Most votes count.

>>By Lynn   (Friday, 28 Nov 2003 23:38)



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