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Betrayal? Travesty? Not at all. If someone is unhappy that they've read past a BLATANT and OBVIOUS warning that there were plot spoilers coming in the post, then they are idiots and don't deserve sympathy. If Andy thinks I've betrayed him, he's certainly welcome to flork me and tell me so. If he does so, I'll take it up with him.
>>By Dare (Friday, 28 Nov 2003 23:42)
B.A.B.E.S Go Wild
For a change we delve into the natural world to introduce two adorable, nocturnal creatures...
The B.A.B.E.S have been elected as EmmPees. They think this is short for Emma Peel and have swapped latex and labcoats for black PVC and kinky boots. It's a troubled time. President Bush has taken over all The Top Jobs and he's now Prime Minister of G.B. too. Our girls are BushB.A.B.E.S...
Dubbya has told his BushB.A.B.E.S to take a night off and sample the delights of the Big Smoke. He has warned them not to inhale though. We join them on The Streets Of London...
They stand in wide-eyed wonder outside the glittering bastion of publishing excellence that is TrannysWorld. An endless stream of posh frocks and suits enter the building.
'Must be some sort of corporate backslapping event' suggests Beth.
'A Xmas party maybe?' bikergirl hopes.
'Oh yum...food...'
'And drink...'
Just then, bikergirl's attention is grabbed by the sound of a big v-twin (yeah baby). AM jumps off and drops the keys in her hand.
'Park it for me will ya, love?'
Bikergirl obliges, wheelspinning through 180 degrees to park neatly against the kerb before pocketing the keys.
Meanwhile, Beth's attention is caught by the sight of CR sprinting up the road, hiding in shop doorways and putting in a couple of dog-legs down side alleys. Beth's impressed. She can just make out the advancing Hunter Force in the distance. Silently she wills CR on. Breathless he arrives, drawn to the dazzle of polished PVC.
Both men gaze into the wide-eyes of the BushB.A.B.E.S. They are instantly mesmerised and ask the girls to accompany them to the 'do'.
Inside, the BushB.A.B.E.S are once again wide-eyed at the sight of so many illustrious writers...
A slender finger beckons AM and CR to join her. They sneak undetected (see what did I tell ya???) to the table of a struggling author.
The BushB.A.B.E.S are confronted by a tray full of KanApes
'Nibbles ladies...' from the waiter.
'Who does?' ask the BushB.A.B.E.S in unison, looking around for any likely characters.
'Pardon me. My grammatical error. Let me try again. Nibbles, ladies?'
The wide-eyed ones select fistfuls of their favourite finger food (alliteration...scores extra points surely?).
The BushB.A.B.E.S take a seat to consume their free food. They slide straight off.
'Damn, I knew EmmPees had to be slippery sorts, but this is ridiculous'
They resign themselves to the floor and consider their engagements for the coming week. Dubbya has told them they'll be holding surgeries in their constituencies. The BushB.A.B.E.S are not sure what a constituency is and Dubbya sure as hell couldn't spell it for them. But the thought of performing surgery leaves them wide-eyed with anticipation...good job they'd been stockpiling latex...
>>By B.A.B.E.S (Saturday, 29 Nov 2003 11:01)
B.A.B.E.S., looking forward to surgery sitrep :o)
>>By Lynn (Saturday, 29 Nov 2003 13:26)
Now all hands are back on deck, the story continues.....
Sugarloaf Mountain Hideout.
Bethan and bikergirl are tucked up in an old wooden shack (excellent FOB!) with AM, who has promised to be a good boy. They've kitted him out in obligatory B.A.B.E.S-wear...labcoat and latex...interestingly he chose the large size in the latter. The cosy threesome are now heating their slim fast soup rations on a hexiblock.
AM : "I'm not eating that, it smells of feet"
B : "OMG! What on earth do your feet smell like? Mine don't smell like that"
AM : sniffs... "Ooh you're right, my feet smell worse"
bg : "Enough you two, we're running out of time and where is CR?"
There's a knock on the door.
AM : sings "There's somebody at the door, there's somebody at the door"
bg : "What?"
AM : "Don't tell me you never watched Rod Hull and Emu? Come on, that's outrageous"
bg : "We're in a highly tense covert operation and you're singing the theme to Emu?"
AM : "I know Orville if you'd prefer it...I wish I could fly, right up to the sky, but I can't"
B : "You can"
AM : "I can't"
bg : "So macho. Bloody hell Beth, stop encouraging him!"
B : "Sorry" <winks at Andy>
AM and B : "He's gotta be so macho, big and strong..."
bg : "Guys, we'll leave it there thanks"
Bethan approaches the door and opens it before shouting in alarm.
B : "Damn, it's Hunter Force One" leaning all her puny weight against the door, but she's no match for Ortlieb and Deus...They burst into the hut.
O : "Okay Deus let's secure the perimeter. AM you're mine now and you will answer my questions"
D : "Perimeter is secure boss, what do we do with them?"
O : "Latex 'em, they should have been working anyway"
Bethan and bikergirl struggle against their latex restraints.
B : "Oooohh these are too tight, look me hand's going purple, sort yourself out Deus"
D : "Sorry mate"
O : "Sorry?? You're a hardened professional soldier, less apologising please"
D : "Sorry mate"
AM : "You know I'm a professional soldier too. We could team up...you know, get rid of all the clowns that are chasing me and just, well, run off somewhere"
O : "First of all, questions...B20 questions that you wouldn't answer before"
AM : gulps "That's old ground, we don't need to cover that again. What about Bush?"
O : "Bushes? Well they do make excellent OP's."
AM : "Or Iraq"
O : "Yes B20. Now... when you were dropped behind enemy lines, were your boots black or tan? I prefer tan, but it's just personal taste, black makes my feet seem too big"
AM : "Black I think"
D : "Can I ask my question now?"
O: "Sssh. So...if you had black boots, what colour DPM's did you wear?"
AM : "Um, dirty sandy colour, the DPM pattern really brought out the black of my boots"
O : "Nice combination mate" <Ort shakes AM's hand>
D : "Uh Ortlieb, mate, a little help please"
O : "Sssh. What is wrong with you?"
D : "Um, well it seems bikergirl has me in a vice-like one-handed grip and I'm a bit stuck mate"
O : "bikergirl has me in a vice-like one-handed grip and I'm a bit stuck mate...what?"
Ortlieb turns round and sees that bikergirl has broken free from her latex restraints and is holding Deus hostage.
O : "For god's sake run Andy, run!"
AM and Ortlieb bomb-burst out of the door, heading straight for the safety of the undergrowth.
AM : "FFS Ortlieb! Cover your sign...they'll be on our tails in no time"
Will Ortlieb finally have his questions answered?
Will Bethan manage to free herself?
Is Deus loving being a hostage?
My God, can anyone else run away with Andy McNab? (can you guess?...)
>>By B.A.B.E.S (Saturday, 29 Nov 2003 16:40)
... Can I say it again?
ROTFLMAO!!!!
>>By Deusrexmachina (Saturday, 29 Nov 2003 17:44)
Absolutely brilliant to see you, B.A.B.E.S.! Particularly cuz of the lights reflecting off the shiny slickness of your black body outfits! (Catwoman certainly works wonders with, or is that, in pvc and latex...)
Okay, so you didn't inhale but something surely was in those nibbles. There are a few unexplained pre-HFO details you need to clear up... like surgical constituencies (careful tho, detailed cutting makes me queasy) and what happened with AM and CR being lurid (oops!) I mean lured to the slender-fingered beckoner and the struggling author?
Given the current tenuous situation with HFO, however, this might not be the best time for a debriefing, so...
As you were, carry on... :o)
>>By am-i-binned (Saturday, 29 Nov 2003 17:50)
ROFL!!! Good work B.A.B.E.S.!!!
You girls chose a great lady to emulate in Emma Peel, possibly the coolest, cleverest, most beautiful lady spy to date! :)
>>By Dare (Saturday, 29 Nov 2003 18:21)
Oh Dare, I can fight my corner, and for others' too.
When I first started reviewing books for magazines and Internet sites, (book critic) it occurred to me that a modicum of integrity at best is called for even if one considers the book in question to be absolute tosh. Honesty is not always to the author's liking, but that said, a reviewer is not employed to promote a book for sale.
It is quite an art form to be able to review a book's characterisation, settings, and overall plot without any reference to whodunit, no naming the victim/s (if at all), and to be able to retain a sense of suspense. Sometimes a book leaves one hopelessly stumbling for anything good to say about it, though that is a rarety. So Expert Word-Smith, does not the former hold true for message boards, too?
Isn't it just fun enough to discuss plots, characters, cross-references, etc., that is, if the books in question are linked (serialised yet almost stand-alones) of which the Nick Stone novels are.
To say in honest enthusiasm: "Hey, So & So reappeared in.........." adds to appeal factor for fans of any author.
To say..... "Hey, I'm gutted, utterly gutted that Matt Dorner, the bastard, (sample author) could even think of killing off a good character like Ben Hardwick? ".... is as good as saying don't bother to buy it's crap that's why I've told you the outcome!!!
If one has a mere inkling of integrity why not say: "Hey, I'm gutted, utterly gutted that Matt Dorner, the bastard, could even think of killing off such a good character."....You see how that sentence comes across. All the peole who have read Matt Dorner's book can either empathise or disagree, but those who haven't read Matt Dorner's book can look forward to it with, perhaps, greater interest...
Damn it all, you've blasted me more than once for being anti AM, which is quite laughable, in that I would defend him to the last on his writing, (personal reasons) even though I've posted thought provoking prose that sometimes met with disapproval. What is wrong in posting other peoples opinions/take on a writer, maybe even those who worked or fought alongside a particular author - it's all grist to the mill of discussion, comparison, etc...
BTW: Would suggest, before any notions of Star Quality take centre stage in triumphant mode, that stars refrain from heavy reliance of electronic Thesaurus, and that a copy of Extended Oxford dictionary wouldn't go amiss in the * dressing room.
Self-deprecating Slap-Stick humour = mickey take of self, country, culture, one's religion, witty, lewd, nonsensical ribaldry, non-malicious in content, etc.
Satire (political or otherwise) = dark humour, bad taste, disrespectful, to the knuckle, obscene, malicious, no boundary to religious, political, ethnic, cultural send-up.
Re Chris Ryan board: As to your petty response, Dare, " I view this board too". What is that meant to imply?
That such a statement has star quality!
Oops, perhaps a pathetic attempt at satirical humour...
Re AM's teen books, and discussion last night with a young teenage boy who as good as said: "Hope he's well up on our lingo and isn't going to kick his teen ass years into play.' I think he meant, his manner of speech totally alien to me, that if AM uses street-wise jargon of sixties comprehensive school yards and back alleys, his books will be shelf fodder. So, let's be hoping AM is out there, on the streets, getting the modern day gen...
Even if someone (here) has seen a revealing review, it doesn't mean that person has to play advocate to thriller-killers!
Just found another AM message board, (not www.Allreaders.com), but you wouldn't be interested would you? Feel sure you'll come across it, star quality 'n' all. After all, it's Hollywood based, so the Star around here should know where it is....
>>By buddy (Saturday, 29 Nov 2003 22:06)
Ok, and away we go! ;) BTW, anyone not wishing to be dragged into the middle of this "debate", need not bother reading this post.
buddy:>>Oh Dare, I can fight my corner, and for others' too.<<
Never said you couldn't. I didn't post anything one way or the other about your ability or lack thereof to defend yourself.... unlike your little post on the Chris Ryan board. I'm a little curious as to why you felt the need to answer that post here. It's not like I don't read that board as well. Perhaps the lure of a larger audience? Ah well.
>>>Keep at it Beth, Panto shot to hell 'cause *star quality* couldn't hack a walk-on-walk-off part at McNab's Theatre.
You just know it's other self will come to its own defense, as always...
Thank God CR has a great sense of humour. Did you see his face on the last "Hunting Chris Ryan" ? The out-takes, well, hilarious!!
>>By buddy (Friday, 28 Nov 2003 23:15)<<<
>>>It is quite an art form to be able to review a book's characterisation, settings, and overall plot without any reference to whodunit, no naming the victim/s (if at all), and to be able to retain a sense of suspense. Sometimes a book leaves one hopelessly stumbling for anything good to say about it, though that is a rarety. So Expert Word-Smith, does not the former hold true for message boards, too?
Isn't it just fun enough to discuss plots, characters, cross-references, etc., that is, if the books in question are linked (serialised yet almost stand-alones) of which the Nick Stone novels are.<<<
No, actually, it doesn't. You see, a reviewer's job is to review the book and either "sell" it to a prospective reader or warn them off. No matter what a reviewer really thinks his/her job is, they are really just part of the marketing machine, no matter who writes the checks. They are sometimes paid (but often not) to do this for a paper, magazine or internet site. Internet sites usually do this by having readers volunteer their reviews, ie., the reviews posted on Amazon and Borders internet sites. Reviewers, whether of written, visual or media formats, sometimes develop a tendency to inflate their own importance as well as the importance of the material they review. It gives them a forum to criticise something they normally could not produce themselves. They get to be catty, hyper-analytical, use psuedo-intellectualism, in general be downright bitchy. It's a common pitfall.
Message boards like this one, are designed for readers to discuss books. Posters can, of course, persuade or dissuade other readers from reading material they like or dislike. Then they all get together and post rambling dissertations and queries about why the writer wrote "that", what was meant by "this", why "this" sucked, "that" was great, and what's going to happen next, . When discussing newly published materials (or recently released movies for the film buffs among us) it's common and polite to post a "SPOILER WARNING" before discussing salient points of the plot, thereby allowing readers not yet cognizant of the plot twists choose whether or not they wish to read the post.
BTW, you missed a question mark at the end of that last paragraph of yours. ;)
++ SPOILER WARNING!!! SPOILER WARNING!!! ++
>>>To say..... "Hey, I'm gutted, utterly gutted that Matt Dorner, the bastard, (sample author) could even think of killing off a good character like Ben Hardwick? ".... is as good as saying don't bother to buy it's crap that's why I've told you the outcome!!!
If one has a mere inkling of integrity why not say: "Hey, I'm gutted, utterly gutted that Matt Dorner, the bastard, could even think of killing off such a good character."....You see how that sentence comes across. All the peole who have read Matt Dorner's book can either empathise or disagree, but those who haven't read Matt Dorner's book can look forward to it with, perhaps, greater interest...<<<
Now, now, buddy.... be careful with all of those nasty things you said about betrayal and travesty and all that, since they apply to you far more than to me if your logic prevails. I put a "Warning" before I said anything about anyone getting killed off. With all of your ranting and histrionics, you've pretty well TOLD everyone reading your posts that I let the cat out of the bag with my comments, then you go and give a very clear plot parallel after mentioning in a previous post that's how the story ends. You give no spoiler warnings to warn off prospective readers that were intelligent enough to understand the concept of what a "Spoiler Warning" was and refrain from reading MY POST further. Your posts have no such polite or considerate warning to those who haven't gotten to the end of DW yet.
>>>Damn it all, you've blasted me more than once for being anti AM, which is quite laughable, in that I would defend him to the last on his writing, (personal reasons) even though I've posted thought provoking prose that sometimes met with disapproval. What is wrong in posting other peoples opinions/take on a writer, maybe even those who worked or fought alongside a particular author - it's all grist to the mill of discussion, comparison, etc... <<<
I've blasted you for being rude. It's something you excel at but never own up to, but then passive-aggressives don't admit to their nasty little habits. What you do is plant verbal landmines and drop verbal bombs then point the finger at others when they react. Blame is the name of p-a's game.
>>BTW: Would suggest, before any notions of Star Quality take centre stage in triumphant mode, that stars refrain from heavy reliance of electronic Thesaurus, and that a copy of Extended Oxford dictionary wouldn't go amiss in the * dressing room.<<<
You might wish to consider that a "smith" of any kind, Word or otherwise, should have more than one tool in their toolbox when trying to craft anything. And you were the one who pointed out my "star quality"even though you were just being sarcastic. ;)
I do have star quality and I'm not ashamed of it, but consider myself, primarily, a support player. *bows*
>>>Self-deprecating Slap-Stick humour = mickey take of self, country, culture, one's religion, witty, lewd, nonsensical ribaldry, non-malicious in content, etc.<<<
self-dep·re·cat·ing (slfdpr-ktng)
adj.
Tending to undervalue oneself and one's abilities.
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self-depre·cating·ly adv.
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
self-deprecating
adj : conscious of your own shortcomings
Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University
slap·stick ( P ) Pronunciation Key (slpstk)
n.
A boisterous form of comedy marked by chases, collisions, and crude practical jokes.
A paddle designed to produce a loud whacking sound, formerly used by performers in farces.
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
slapstick
adj : characterized by horseplay and physical action; "slapstick style of humor" n 1: a boisterous comedy with chases and collisions and practical jokes 2: two paddles hinged together; used by an actor to make a loud noise without inflicting injury when striking someone
Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University
You will note that the two are not put together. There really isn't much overlap, either. Now perhaps there is some theatrical tome that defines it as you have....
"Self-deprecating" isn't the right word if you are talking about others. Since you weren't making fun of yourself, you were making fun of others and not others in your government, religion or culture, then it doesn't qualify for self-deprecating. No matter how hard you might try to convince us.
>>>Satire (political or otherwise) = dark humour, bad taste, disrespectful, to the knuckle, obscene, malicious, no boundary to religious, political, ethnic, cultural send-up.<<<
A literary work in which human vice or folly is attacked through irony, derision, or wit.
The branch of literature constituting such works. See Synonyms at caricature.
Irony, sarcasm, or caustic wit used to attack or expose folly, vice, or stupidity.
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[Latin satira, probably alteration (influenced by Greek satur, satyr, and saturos, burlesque of a mythical episode), of (lanx) satura, fruit (plate) mixture, from feminine of satur, sated, well-fitted. See s- in Indo-European Roots.]
Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
satire
\Sat"ire\ (?; in Eng. often ?; 277), n. [L. satira, satura, fr. satura (sc. lanx) a dish filled with various kinds of fruits, food composed of various ingredients, a mixture, a medley, fr. satur full of food, sated, fr. sat, satis, enough: cf. F. satire. See Sate, Sad, a., and cf. Saturate.] 1. A composition, generally poetical, holding up vice or folly to reprobation; a keen or severe exposure of what in public or private morals deserves rebuke; an invective poem; as, the Satires of Juvenal.
2. Keeness and severity of remark; caustic exposure to reprobation; trenchant wit; sarcasm.
Syn: Lampoon; sarcasm; irony; ridicule; pasquinade; burlesque; wit; humor.
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.
satire
n : witty language used to convey insults or scorn; "he used sarcasm to upset his opponent"; "irony is wasted on the stupid" [syn: sarcasm, irony, caustic remark]
Source: WordNet ® 1.6, © 1997 Princeton University
Where did you find your definition? Just curious. It seems a bit.... dramatic. Panto falls squarely into this category of theater, which involves irony, satire, sarcasm. All of those words mean basically the same thing but the nuances of each help the "wordsmith" choose the proper one for each use.
>>>Re Chris Ryan board: As to your petty response, Dare, " I view this board too". What is that meant to imply?
That such a statement has star quality!
Oops, perhaps a pathetic attempt at satirical humour...<<<
Petty? I thought it was a fairly obvious statement of fact. I was there and replied to your post... ergo, I view that board as well as this one. It wasn't meant to imply anything. It was meant to inform. I'm not exactly sure what you meant by the "star quality" statement again, but from the following sentence, I'm assuming it was an attempt to scold, taunt or insult me. Depending on the level of animus you wish to display, of course. Since I can't hear a tone of voice or see your body language as you "say" this, all I have to go by are the words themselves. C'est la vie!
I suppose you could call it satirical, but sarcastic would be more accurate.
>>>Just found another AM message board, (not www.Allreaders.com), but you wouldn't be interested would you? Feel sure you'll come across it, star quality 'n' all. After all, it's Hollywood based, so the Star around here should know where it is....<<<
Now that's sarcasm! ;) You got it! I knew you could figure it out!
>>By Dare (Sunday, 30 Nov 2003 07:24)
Hey guys, I havent logged on for aaaages but that's because ive been reading DW. Finished it yesterday, and I have to say I think it's at least his second best novel (just behind Remote Control) if not the best. I'll try to find where everyone has talked about it in previous pages, but was it quality or what?
>>By Ignaty (Sunday, 30 Nov 2003 11:45)
Darling you rose to the occasion, I bow to you, Dare, in your fantastical whiz research: ergo adj, verb, etc., gosh, how long did it take you? Such venom becomes you...
Actually, I get paid for reviewing books for magazines, and the bonus factor - free books before they hit the bookstands!!!
Re your entrance/post at CR board. And there was I thinking you just loved following me around like a yappy terrier...
Less of the chest puffing, clucking, and you might not have missed the following snipits!!
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Soldier 5 by Mike Coburn pseudonym) The Real Bravo Two Zero will be published UK 2004. The proceeds will be given to the families of the men, lost during that mission, that is, if the UK governent drops its intention to high-jack the money (proceeds) from sales of the book. I guess some of you here will say "Tsssk, where have we heard that story before"...Hmm, yes, it's going to sell, big time, no doubts about that...How will MC benefit from it? Emotionally drained at the same time, ebullient. Will he do TV/radio interviews? Who knows!
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On the basis that the movie star (mentioned below) has been put forth several times as a candidate to play Nick Stone, I hereby admit he's probably the right person for the role...
Interview with Viggo Mortensen (Sunday Times)
He is assessed in the introduction as likened to Danish businessman in charcoal-grey suit: crisp - dapper, even. His looks are wholesome, boyish; he's physically beautiful but delicate and far from macho...
He says very little throughout a four page spread full of references to movie credits, not least Lor of the Rings (trilogy)...
The interview ends thus: We stand on the corner of Lexington Avenue (post Central Park stroll) saying goodbye. The adventure is over and, just as we are about to part, we revisit, briefly, the sbject of lack f time. He sounds rueful. "If I can get a day to myself, I won't answer the phone, I'll read or go for a walk. Simple, basic things. People think there's always time to do that but there isn't. Life is short." For someone who feels he has so little time, a contradiction is raised in his willingness to linger. But the six hours we have spent together are not about killing time or being lonely. They have been about Mortensen's determination to make an impression - not as an actor but as a man. He just wants to be a hero.
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"The Idiot" by Dostoevsky
"A classic battle between the heart and the head"
A worthwhile read and, a testing piece for understanding of the word quoth so loose with bigoted and venomous sting to unknowns. "Idiot".
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Umm, one last thought: How come, considering our American cousins shout star quality on this list, do we never see posts or refs to do with AM/SAS as reported in the Los Angeles Times, Washington Post, or New Yok Times etc. Is he really that unknown Stateside? After all, our American cousins seem to spend their spare time (?) panning UK Internet press sites and only quote UK articles...
>>By buddy (Sunday, 30 Nov 2003 12:22)
BABES : Keep up the good work.
Real Fun.
I'm really pleased 'cause I ordered some books on wednesday and whaddayaknow on Friday my first book arrived right from the city of Lundun.
So now I'm reading Crisis 4 , good for now.
Still got 2 more to come (DW and The one about SBS, )
Peace everyone!
>>By borisette (Sunday, 30 Nov 2003 12:28)
Bethan and Borisette leave the punishment corner.
(full of broozes from elbow-shoving)
So now there is room for Buddy and Dare.
Both of ya in the corner and fight it out there.
Ya can use all the tactics ya like. from karate, judo, poking in the eyes, miss piggy slam, wrestling...and even the verbal considerations are allowed.
Ping... round one.
>>By borisette (Sunday, 30 Nov 2003 12:45)
Another B & B!! (Beer and Brawl) - WOOHOO!! This is great!
remember; groin smashes, kicks to the knee, head butts, bites and chokes are not only allowed, they are highly recommended (for entertainment factor).
take care, speak soon
>>By Paul R (Sunday, 30 Nov 2003 15:36)
"It's like déjà vu all over again..." *
Is there a way to avoid this recurring cycle of confrontation?
We've tried:
Joking, cajoling, humouring, punishment hats? Nope.
Arguing, either defensively or aggressively, PE? Pfffff!, not happening.
Diversions, redirections, shifting of gears? Nuh-uh.
Passive placation, rolling over, playing dead? Nope again.
Silence, avoidance? Obviously not.
And, saddest of all, requests and apologies have no apparent effect either...
So is there maybe another approach? Would it help to define the difference between "baiting" and "thought provoking"?
For the time being, tho, since that approach is obviously "baiting" and possibly "thought provoking", I'll be over here on the punishment bench commiserating quietly with Dare... :o)
* (yogi-berra.com/yogiisms.html)
>>By am-i-binned (Sunday, 30 Nov 2003 15:52)
Ah, Ignaty: quantity & quality? Add quantify, and and the recipe for discussion is paramount.
What quantified, for you, as in quality or quantity of DW that led you to think next/best to RC?
Hey, would be nice to hear someone else' point of view for a change: subject AM.
>>By buddy (Sunday, 30 Nov 2003 15:53)
Where else would you be, AIB? I mean, don't great minds think alike, the alter-ego factor kind of joined at the hip. In the main, both of you (AIB & Dare) openly (at times covert) go anti buddy. Has anyone looked up the word "diatribe", it is and has been AIB's favourite word in respect of buddy posts...
Ever been fly fishing? If you have you'll know the difference between "baiting and thought provoking"
It's interesting how much basic "Intelligence Gathering" has in common with landing a catch. Of course it's entirely up to the fishermen as to whether he/she decides to put it back in to the water for another day's sport or, decides to fry it.
Of course, if you take the example of "Counter Intelligence", then Mmm, somewhat "thought provoking" - Who is trying to bait who? Who wants a reason for buddy to be kicked (permanently) from Gnod ?
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For general ref: Roget's Thesaurus is to help writers or speakers clarify and shape an idea which they wish to convey, and which is difficult to capture or to express clearly. The Thesaurus thereby helps users to improve their command of English usage, and to develop their ability to communicate prescisely and appropriately. The secret to the success of Roget's Thesaurus lies in how it helps people express themselves effecitively in writing and speech. This is a creative reference work, unlike simple synonym dictionaries (some of which are misleadingly labelled as Theasauri). Within the paragraphs, words are grouped between semicolons according to their meaning, context, or level of usage ( ie; colloquial, formal etc.)
To summarise, is an art speakers/writers learn, as in 'honing' their work/speech so that it has a succint yet intriguing element to captivate a given audience (ie; reviewers/columnists.) ------
Fighting SAS style, sorry, DIRTY, below the belt (pun)... I'm not here to kiss your feet or AM's, (doesn't mean I don't like him) highly amusing really, in that ..........Well, wouldn't want to Kiss & Tell, but work it out for yourselves...
>>By buddy (Sunday, 30 Nov 2003 16:29)
Buddy, please, let it go...
>>By am-i-binned (Sunday, 30 Nov 2003 16:50)
I'm sorry, Buddy, I should have said:
Please, Buddy, I want peace. Can we please let this go?
>>By am-i-binned (Sunday, 30 Nov 2003 17:23)
The Tao of Pooh
"Tigger is all right really," said Piglet lazily.
"Of course he is," said Christopher Robin.
"Everybody is really," said Pooh. "That's what I think," said Pooh.
"But I don't suppose I'm right," he said.
"Of course you are," said Christopher Robin.
>>By Lynn (Sunday, 30 Nov 2003 23:21)
Pooh's Little Instruction Book:
"When you go after honey with a balloon, the great thing is not to let the bees know you're coming."
Winnie-the-Pooh.
Bet A.A.Milne never thought about double entendre
Pics in the mail!!
>>By buddy (Monday, 1 Dec 2003 00:52)
Well there's lots of stuff to reply to and comment on. I know, I know I left something dangling there! *trying to tuck participles in wildly, carelessly letting them scatter willy-nilly* Will do so (reply, that is :)) tomorrow night or maybe Tuesday since I've done 16 hour shifts yesterday and today and have another two (different, slightly shorter but more intensive) shifts to do tomorrow. *looks around blinking owlishly, trying to figure out who all these people and why am I sitting on this bench?* ;)
This probably means there will be lots more stuff to reply to and comment on by the time I can get around to posting again. Sorry for the delay buddy, but if I start now, it will be another LATER night for me and the alarm rings WAY TOO EARLY for that. ;)
Ciao!
>>By Dare (Monday, 1 Dec 2003 06:09)
Re: Lack of stateside AM info...
Despite reports that AM is supposedly spending decent amounts of time here (e.g., he was in NY during the online chat with London-based TIL), the sad fact seems to be that AM is still much more of a celeb in the UK than here in the US. Why? I dunno. Surely it's not for lack of effort on my part! hahaha! After all, expanding AM’s readership and renown is my ongoing mission, isn't it? I have google searches set on all kinds of variables, but 99% of the news still comes from UK sources, not US.
As to the good news regarding Soldier 5, could someone please post or flork the information/article? I received the following notice but I cannot access Times Online without a subscription (too costly for me to justify):
SAS man tells 'truth' of Bravo Two Zero
The Sunday Times (subscription), UK
... Coburn, one of five members of the eight-man unit to survive, believes
that the version of events retold by Andy McNab and Chris Ryan, were highly
exaggerated. ...
<http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-914232,00.html>
Sunday, November 30, 2003 5:34 PM
This once-a-day News Alert is brought to you by Google News (BETA)...
Re: Chatroom for AM
Still looking. TIL's Chill-out Room is still the most viable option for the time being. Very, very seldom used! And altho it's not "private" we would be able to see who is signing in and out during the chat. Might even be fun to have other folks drop in. Advantage: availability/accessibility to everyone, doesn't require software downloading. Disadvantages: cannot create separate, dedicated chatroom (AM/SAS); public not private.
There's another free chatroom -- www.chatzy.com -- which doesn't require software, registration or anything. Any of us could initiate a chat at any time, but participants have to be invited into the chatroom. If we decide on common times of availability, it might be possible to just schedule a group invite to everyone, and if you're available, you can come into the chatroom. Advantage: no registration, no software to install. Disadvantages: requires invites, chatrooms are not permanently available. I haven't taken chatzy for a test-drive yet tho cuz I need someone available when I invite them... volunteers? you pick when, I'll send you where... :o)
>>By am-i-binned (Monday, 1 Dec 2003 10:54)
Peace be with you <<hands together in solemn pose>> no not in hope of invite to chat...
I had intended leaving specific people out of the Panto script, but then I thought that wasn't fair, and a small part for Stars & Stripes seemed less likely to cause any upset, in that I wouldn't be excluding America entirely. How wrong can one be? Gee, Australia & New Zealand had yet to appear!
Never mind, B.A.B.E.S get away with it and no flak.
I'm off on HOLS...Happen Osama's Al Whatsit'll get me...Keep wishing!!!
>>By buddy (Monday, 1 Dec 2003 11:24)
Could post Sunday Times Article, but copyright and stringent non-copy paste article ruling (here) rules it out. Can mail if wanted. You know where I am...
>>By buddy (Monday, 1 Dec 2003 11:30)
No florking for it...
>>By buddy (Monday, 1 Dec 2003 11:32)
Sorry, my misspeak:
Re: Soldier 5 -- please post or flork the information/article
Could someone please post the information (key points, not the entire article), or flork (or email) the article?
>>By am-i-binned (Monday, 1 Dec 2003 11:49)
"Bethan and Borisette leave the punishment corner"
Thanks be for that, now we've done our time.
"Never mind, B.A.B.E.S get away with it and no flak."
Yup, we have flak jackets to protect us (unfortunately they don't cover hands!) Oops back to the naughty corner, damn it....
>>By Bethan (Monday, 1 Dec 2003 12:02)
On second thoughts: the Sunday Times article - Soldier 5 - will surface. Sure to. But, until it does, the SUSPENSE will do wonders for you all...If it fails to pop up, well, it's not long to wait (spring) 2004 for the book, is it?
Enjoy the anticipation, dread, whatever!!!
>>By buddy (Monday, 1 Dec 2003 14:32)
The Soldier 5 article has surfaced (thanks muchly!) -- if you can't access it, let me know via flork...
Basically, other than to say that Soldier 5 is scheduled to be published in Britain next March, the comments on MC's revelations are the same as we've been hearing -- that AM and CR exaggerated their accounts and that MC "has accused senior officers of issuing the patrol with faulty equipment, dropping it too close to the enemy and delaying a rescue because the men were 'expendable'."
The proceeds still seem to be in dispute, too. MC said he will share profits with the families of Vince, Bob, and Steve, but the MoD is still arguing that all of the proceeds belong to the government.
>>By am-i-binned (Monday, 1 Dec 2003 15:59)
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