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Ok, I'm just TRYING to be funny to hide my pain. Have fun. Anyone who CAN be there.
Oh Christ now I really start sounding pathetic.
:-ppp
>>By Lynn (Friday, 26 May 2006 15:05)
Hay Festival podcasts and streamed media will be available from the 26th of May...
See:
http://www.hayfestival.com/2005/messageboard/
topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=305
Not sure from which speakers yet though
>>By Lynn (Friday, 26 May 2006 15:23)
The last few messages were sponsord by ?
And if , big iff but never the less, let's play along....we in the right pub at the right time .. how do we know for sure ? I mean, is there anybody going to stand on top of the bar and shout "Oi McNab! I've got a beer waiting for you "
Would he go for that you think ?
>>By Ninjawoman (Friday, 26 May 2006 22:14)
Hey (or Hay)..if it's indeed the right pub at the right time as you say.. Just say you got a Madam Golightly waiting - if anyone responses at all you might have caught the right guy.
About Mobile Fun...
Coming soon:
Andy McNab's Engima Force:The Regiment (working title)
Train with Andy McNab, ex-SAS soldier in your quest to join the Regiment.
http://www.finessemobile.com/index_games2.htm
No idea what 'soon' means though.. :-)
>>By Lynn (Friday, 26 May 2006 23:19)
Thanks, Lynn! Once again, another missed opportunity!
hmmm... I wonder, tho...
Hey, Nem? Cam? Lisle? Christi? S2K? What are y'all doing this weekend?!?
PS: Nice to see "adrenalin-fuelled" vs the usual "testosterone"... ;o)
>>By am-i-binned (Saturday, 27 May 2006 13:35)
>> hmmm... I wonder, tho...Hey, Nem? Cam? Lisle? Christi? S2K? What are y'all doing this weekend?!?
I can tell you what they're NOT doing, which is driving more than three blocks. A short walk to a Yank is a marathon drive to a Brit, which is understandable when you realize their island could easily fit into the average Texan's swimming pool. The only way any of our British friends are gonna meet Andy is if they trip over him on the way out of their local pub...Which is very possible.
Oh, a head's up--the full story behind the group of Marines who murdered some twenty-odd civilians (including a 3-year-old) is about to go big...Blindly idolizing everyone in a uniform is about to look as stupid as it did after My Lai. There are a hell of a lot of real heroes serving in Iraq--those "I thank anyone in uniform" types here who think making it through basic makes you a hero are about to look really stupid.
>>By Just Jon (Saturday, 27 May 2006 15:44)
what !!....you yanks actually walk anywhere!!
>>By BushisaManiac (Saturday, 27 May 2006 21:05)
Jon.. if I didn't know better I'd swear you are generalising 'yanks' and 'brits' and in the same sentence say it's wrong to generalise uniformed people as in 'anyone in uniform' ;-)
>>By Lynn (Saturday, 27 May 2006 21:21)
Exactly, Lynn! Thank you. Say touché, Jon, and then cry uncle...
And yes, it's true, BushisaManiac, I'd drive the three blocks, but I woulda first had to walk from my front door to the driveway to get into my car so I could drive there! My motto: If there's a wheel, there's a way....
>>By am-i-binned (Monday, 29 May 2006 14:17)
BBC has this article today:
** SAS man McNab removes the mask **
After years of hiding, former SAS soldier turned best-selling author Andy McNab has officially "come out".
He appeared in person at the Hay literature festival to reveal his identity in public for the first time.
Beforehand there were strict warnings, enforced by dark-suited security, that no-one could photograph him.
(...)
Stationed in nearby Hereford, he had once come to the Hay festival to see actor Stephen Fry, he said, but turned around and went to the pub when he found out he had to pay.
He told the festival audience that he would have probably ended up a panel beater or a bus driver had he not joined the forces.
Now he has found "satisfaction" as a writer and mixes in Hollywood circles and reads "Aga saga writer" Joanne Trollope - " the best dialogue writer in Britain" - to gain inspiration.
For whole article go to:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/
wales/5026698.stm
I feel this article might need some elucidating ;-)
>>By Lynn (Monday, 29 May 2006 14:35)
Lest we forget....
Today is Memorial Day in the US -- a day we set aside to remember those who've made the ultimate sacrifice. The following passage is from a book written by a Vietnam vet -- which, to me, says it all...
* * * * *
" ... I remember the helicopter I was on swooping in for a touch-and-go landing, and I was standing on the landing skid, ready to jump, and the guy standing on the skid beside me put his lips to my ear and shouted over the din of explosions, “Hey, Brenner, you think this is a go?”
We both laughed in recognition of what we and everyone had been thinking before the assault began, and in that moment, we formed a communal bond with every soldier in history who ever waited for the sound of the bugle, the war pipes, the whistle, the red flare, or whatever it was that meant GO.
GO. You are no longer human, you have no mothers, no wives, no one you care about, except the man beside you. GO. This is the moment you have been dreading for as long as you can remember, this is the fear that comes to you in the night before you sleep, and the nightmare that wakes you out of your sleep. This is it – it’s here, it’s now, it’s real. GO. Meet it. ...."
Up Country
by Nelson DeMille
>>By am-i-binned (Monday, 29 May 2006 14:53)
This is from earlier this month:
Gassed by own Corporal
A SADISTIC Army instructor laughed as he made a video of teenage recruits being GASSED.
Corporal Bob Mills — who wears an electronic tag after being convicted of assault — ordered the rookies to breathe CS gas inside a sealed chamber.
He revelled in using his mobile phone to film them choking, being sick and begging to be let out of what he called his “palace of fun”.
In a scandalous oversight which raises serious questions for top brass, he was allowed to be in charge of 30 recruits despite being convicted of ABH just three weeks ago.
Whole article (temporary) on
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006220184,00.html
Andy McNab's verdict
SUN Security Adviser and SAS hero Andy McNab says: Committed so coldly, this sort of abuse of innocent young people sickens me.
This evil scumbag Cpl Mills isn’t a real soldier. He’s a coward and a weak little bully — everything the Army normally stands against.
Asking recruits to take their respirators off for more than just a few seconds in a room full of CS gas is insane.
As soon as Mills left court he should have been returned to his original unit — he had proved he was not fit to be around young recruits.
My feeling is that officers at the training centre thought they’d give him another chance. That is weak leadership and they should be ashamed.
>>By Lynn (Monday, 29 May 2006 15:14)
Thanks Lynn and Andy McNab for proving my point. Because soldiers are people like the rest of us, some of them are great and some of them are sadistic little pricks. The only reason you're taught to see them all as heroic altruists who act only out of love of country is so you'll have no problem sending them off to die--after all, they're special people, they actually have no desire to live beyond the age of 21. And when they do die, we'll give them parades and crocodile tears so that we can feel good about "honoring" them and not have to ask why, if we value these people, do we treat them better in death than we did in life.
Here's a memorial day thought--how about we have a day to remember all the civilians who have died in wars started by rich elitist scum whose children will never have to face the sharp end?
I'm spending this day thinking about 18-year-old enlistees blown apart, their genitals found 30 yards from their torsos. I'm thinking about how 5.56 NATO rounds enter and exit the heads of three-year-old kids cowering in fear on a cement floor in Iraq. I'm thinking about how many women, over thousands of years, have been raped because their country commited the crime of losing a war.
And to people who use the classic "What about Hitler/WW2?" to justify war--please keep in mind that Nazi Germany was militarism taken to an extreme...Had the populace been anti-war, it wouldn't have fucking happened. The question isn't whether we have to defend ourselves against Nazis (obviously we do), but rather do we want to become them?
Rant over. Go wave some flags.
>>By Just Jon (Monday, 29 May 2006 20:33)
Yeah, I'm just an asshole...Read a glory-story here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/
Story/0,,1784307,00.html
>>By Just Jon (Monday, 29 May 2006 21:11)
Well after the above post, which I agree with, I'll post an Avenger book report, in a few days. Unless all of you regulars beat me to it?
Rather little book talk as of late, thanks for the leyway, MG!!
How's that underwear going though?
>>By Reighnman (Monday, 29 May 2006 22:34)
McNab mentioned on M.Asher site gives this:
"what he calls the Seven Ps: Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance"
For all I know it lacks "Prior" or it should be Six P's.. anyone know what's most commonly used?
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 30 May 2006 00:24)
Hmmm... you'd think Mr. Asher would at least be able to get the acronym correct, wouldn't you?
Per AM:
Proper Planning and Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:11)
Thanx AIB :-)
Now I've read this one:
Proper Planning and Preparation Prevents Problematic Poor Performance
I suppose that's for 'decent' people, replacing the Piss (or should say 'taking the piss out..)
Then there is:
Piss Poor Prior Planning Prevents Proper Performance
Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance
Proper Prior Preparation Prevents Piss-Poor Performance
Proper Previous Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance
And there's Dante's Angel at the Gate:
In one hand the angel holds a sword, which he uses to carve seven P's--one for each of the seven deadly sins, peccatum (or possibly the punishments, poenae, for these sins)--in Dante's forehead. The angel wears an ash-colored robe, from which he draws the two keys, one gold and one silver, he received from Peter to unlock the gate. These are the "keys of the kingdom of heaven"
Funny - AM's 7 P's can become a deadly 'sin' if not performed (well) which might lead to the Kingdom of Heaven....
LOL, I know I've lost you there - but I couldn't resist ;-)
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:39)
The most common phrase, as mentioned above, is Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss-Poor Performance...That an "elite" soldier would need such a phrase to remember to button his trousers frightens me, but there ya go.
Other stuff...I've been getting lots of emails about Andy's public "coming out" at that book festival, and wondered if "coming out" means the same thing in the UK as it does here.
Argument with female friend...I was told today that my sense of humour is "cruel." Is it really? I believe Mel Brooks said (and I'm paraphrasing), "You falling into an open sewer drain and dying is comedy...Me stubbing my toe is tragedy." Makes sense to me.
I'm very glad that Reighnman realizes my comments on war in no way mean I don't care about those who fight and die. Thanks, Marine.
Avenger...We should have a review coming soon from the aforementioned R-Man. All I can say is, KA-BOOOOM!
Finally, I apologize for delay in new GML/Grey Man's podcast...Andy tries hard to give us great books, so I'm trying to give him a great fan site in return. Lynn and Cam--your hard work WILL be reflected in this new version. Later ya'll.
>>By Just Jon (Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:52)
@ need such a phrase to remember to button his trousers frightens me, but there ya go
LOL Jon, your sense of humour is cruel ;-)
@lots of emails about Andy's public "coming out"
I may just have earned myself 10GBP - I may need your testimony that I did NOT talk to you about this
And speaking about Podcast...
Andy McNab & Phil Rickman
Hay Festival 2006
A rare interview with the author of Bravo Two Zero, Firewall, Last Light and Aggressor. Chaired by Phil Rickman.
Download Options
Audio iPods, Mobiles & MP3 players.
Download this event [HF2006_79.mp3]
1 credits
Go to:
http://www.hayfestival.com/archive/
results.aspx?eventid=29
No idea how it works with these credits, will have to wait till tomorrow, time to zzzzzzzzzzzz
>>By Lynn (Wednesday, 31 May 2006 00:06)
Is this some kind of joke? An interview with Andy is now something people should pay to hear? Are Nabby and the Hay Festival people out of their freaking minds?
I can honestly say, I know no male who would pay to listen to an Andy McGrabby interview...This is just sad.
>>By Just Jon (Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:05)
I doubt it's a joke JJ, but I very much doubt also McNab will see a penny of those 'credits' - I heard the speakers aren't even paid money for their lectures at the festival, I suppose it's a form of self-promotion and the money the Hay festival makes will probably be (or have been) spend on security messures for Al Gore ;-)
For todays news:
** Fans say bravo as McNab reveals identity **
May 30 2006
FORMER SAS soldier turned best-selling author Andy McNab ended years of hiding by revealing his identity in public for the first time at the Hay Festival during the Bank Holiday weekend.
Security was tight as McNab took to the stage to talk about his extraordinary life in the Services as well as his subsequent career as the writer of the critically-acclaimed Bravo Two Zero.
Burly black-suited body guards were even in place when McNab addressed children yesterday alongside Robert Rigby, with whom he co-wrote the Boy Soldier series for young readers.
(...)
McNab decided to put in his historic appearance at Hay because he said it "felt safe" and because he is a fan of the festival.
Although he had previously planned to appear at a similar event in Oxford, he revealed it was cancelled when an incendiary device was discovered under a chair. But there were no such problems at Hay and he unveiled his identity to a sell-out audience in two events
(...)
He said he had been frustrated initially by the angry reaction that the book's publication first received. He said there were often headlines about how outrageous it was that he was giving away Ministry of Defence secrets but, at the same time, he was also still being asked to do work for the department, such as give talks and recruit new soldiers.
Now he has written a selection of adult books, including Firewall and Aggressor, as well as the successful Boy Soldier series with Rigby, which is going to be turned into a film.
And he has revealed that among the books he has been inspired by are Touching The Void by Joe Simpson as well as another of the Hay Festival's big guests this year - "Aga saga" writer Joanna Trollope, who he said is "the best dialogue writer in Britain".
Full article on:
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0200wales/
tm_objectid=17146625%26method=full%26siteid=
50082-name_page.html
:-)
>>By Lynn (Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:47)
FORMER SAS soldier turned best-selling author Andy McNab ended years of hiding by revealing his identity in public for the first time at the Hay Festival during the Bank Holiday weekend.
Security was tight as McNab took to the stage to talk about his extraordinary life in the Services as well as his subsequent career as the writer of the critically-acclaimed Bravo Two Zero.
Burly black-suited body guards were even in place when McNab addressed children yesterday alongside Robert Rigby, with whom he co-wrote the Boy Soldier series for young readers.
I thought this guy was a badass? Security...big burly men? WHAT?
This is even sadder!! Andy have gone soft? To much writing? I think you need some battlefield time? I guess you'ld have to bring the boys with you, you'ld give your postion away to easy.
I'm about to become a non-fan!
The pussification of Andy McGrabby in progress
>>By Reighnman (Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:30)
Jesus where's Randy McFab when you need him? Andy you need to contact Randy. He'll depussify you. He's a real man!
Jon....I see a story!
>>By Reighnman (Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:32)
>>Jon....I see a story!
So do I..."British author Andy McNab assaults two internet smartasses. The hospilitazed men, who call themselves 'Reighnman' and 'Just Jon'...
>>By Just Jon (Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:33)
You know what, Reighman? You're right! AM doesn't actually NEED bodyguards -- truth is, that's just his way of keeping burly ex-SF-types off of public assistance.
There are, however, two fellas who ARE in real danger these days!
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Ring.... Ring...
Err... hello, Mr. McFab? Randy McFab?
Oh, okay, sorry. Yes, yes, I understand -- Darth Spock.
Anyway, Darth-sir, I'm calling cuz of your Merc4Hire ad in NewsBleak, and, well, you see, there are these two guys, Reighnman and Just Jon who...
Huh? Oh, you know them, too? Well, then, you probably know why...
Err.... Hello?
Mr. Darth?
Hello?
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Sorry, fellas.... I tried. ;o)
>>By am-i-binned (Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:34)
Ok Jon, you sense of cruelty is humorous ;-)
AIB, I'm afraid those 2 are beyond any help :-)
Good Dutch news :
POLISH PARACHUTE BRIGADE GETS 'MILITARY ORDER OF WILLIAM' (which is equivalent to the British VC)
MAJOR STANISLAW SOSABOWSKI GETS 'BRONZE LION' (posthumously)
The Polish 1st Independent Parachute Brigade was included in the Allied forces taking part in Operation Market Garden
It's a pity 'we' were a bit slow.
>>By Lynn (Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:47)
I wouldn't worry to much Lynn , theres been a lot of misjustice towards the Polish involvement in ww2, they where the most courageous fighters of at that time.
they rescued thousands of brits from arnhem.
The Polish 2nd corps get little recognition for taking monte casino
they had the most successful fighter squadron downing the highest amount of enemy planes with the least amount casualties ( kosciuzko Squadron 303 ).
just to name a few
Stalin raped and murdered the poland whilst the rest of the world turned there heads
thousands of Russian troops where camped around Warsaw at the time of the uprising but they did nothing. in fact a Polish regiment connected to the Russian army broke ranks to help. when they returned they where shot by the Russians.
I ll leave it there as I expect you all know about that.
>>By Rikky (Thursday, 1 Jun 2006 11:54)
There's a lot of misjustice in any war. Or maybe I should say.. 'a lot of misjustice' period ;-)
But speaking of WWII, does anyone think we should stop talking about this War when there are hardly veterans (of this war) left?
It seems there's less and less taught about it in schools. Should we stop Memorial days as soon as all veterans have passed away?
Didn't we fail in creating a learning experience here? "This should never happen again" - while it's all around us, every day?
>>By Lynn (Thursday, 1 Jun 2006 13:47)
Oddly I can't find this article from last year in these numerous pages..
Anyone still interested go to:
HOW WE MET - ROBERT RIGBY & ANDY MCNAB: 'There is something mythical
It's a great article, some snippets:
RIGBY:
"I think it began because he was jealous that I knew the Fat Controller. He wanted to get into our set and, for some reason, they are very protective in children's TV. So he couldn't. 'SAS man can't get to Thomas the Tank Engine'. That's a good headline."
"When you know Andy and then you see him meeting other people for the first time, there ' is quite a lot of jaw dropping: 'I am actually meeting this man'. It's because he's not seen. There is something a bit mythical about him. But he does exist and he does write his own books. He is not an invention by his publishers. I can vouch for that."
"He uses this expression, 'It's got to be done.' I think that is how he has lived his life as a soldier and as a writer."
MCNAB:
"One of the technicians there had a boy who was mad on Thomas the Tank Engine which was being filmed in an adjoining studio. But the people there were so up their own arses, it was unreal. They wouldn't even let him take a photo of the studio."
"It started with me taking the piss out of him for working on Thomas The Tank Engine. "
"We both like going to cafs. Bacon, sausage rolls and a laptop. Sit there and get on with it. Sometimes Robert can be too much the artist and I have to tell him 'just do it'. But we don't argue."
Full article:
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/
mi_qn4159/is_20050515/ai_n14627881
Somehow the last (?) sentence ends rather abrupt - anyone want to guess what came next?
>>By Lynn (Thursday, 1 Jun 2006 14:18)
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