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Found this in my meanderings.... pretty cool! AM interview about issues in Iraq.
>>By Dare (Monday, 28 Jun 2004 17:06)
Oooh, Dare... Nice meandering! Fanx muchly!!! :o)
>>By am-i-binned (Monday, 28 Jun 2004 17:10)
Me thinks you've hit de nose on de nail dare !
Anyway ..... to those "meandering Mcnab fans" next time i write something on yahoo SF, it'll be in braille so go and get yourselfs someone who speaks it !
>>By borisette (Monday, 28 Jun 2004 21:53)
Oh bugger, I've got a flatscreen puter thingie... any chance on subtitles?
>>By Ninjawoman (Monday, 28 Jun 2004 22:56)
I'm sorry, bo. I didn't realize you were the author of that. I got the heads up about interview in a message from a friend and didn't realise it was a secret. I just thought I'd pass along a neat site. My bad... put my foot in it again. :-(
I just saw the email a few minutes ago, so came to check this out. Again... sorry if I stepped on your toes. It wasn't intentional.
>>By Dare (Tuesday, 29 Jun 2004 02:52)
Take aim at me, Bo, not Dare.
I'm the original meanderer. I sent that link to Dare -- without any explanation whatsoever -- while we were chatting early Monday.
Later on, seeing that the link was not posted here, Dare simply shared what she thought I'd found myself... and I thanked her for doing so.
Bottom line, tho, Bo -- why wouldn't we want to share AM info here?
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 29 Jun 2004 11:20)
Ran into this site, no shocker but it's nice and it's got book recommendations - the rest is more eeer...physical ;o)
www.mfat.co.uk
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 29 Jun 2004 17:48)
share Mcnab info on a Mcnab page thats just silly.
>>By Nemesis2842004 (Tuesday, 29 Jun 2004 23:22)
Thats us Nem... just silly ;-))
>>By Lynn (Wednesday, 30 Jun 2004 08:35)
Interesting article about the SF guys leaving the services to work in the private sector...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/ 2004/03/31/wspec31.xml
And an interesting basic page about Dutch SF...
http://www.specwarnet.com/ europe/dutch_overview.htm
Meant to post these the other day. :-)
Neat site, Lynn. Thanks! Lots of cool stuff on there.
>>By Dare (Wednesday, 30 Jun 2004 19:22)
Something for all armchair warriors: www.fullspectrumwarrior.com
Based on a genuine US Army training aid, the trailer I saw looked just like Baghdad! Don't know if it will play on an ordinary PC though, let me know.
>>By camban (Friday, 2 Jul 2004 15:23)
Thanks cam! Looks good... I'll have to check this out. Might come in real handy as research for my writing.
>>By Dare (Friday, 2 Jul 2004 18:47)
Absolutely awesome graphics, Camban!
The motion-tracking that went into it is totally incredible! Altho the gaming magazine article says XBox, the icons at the bottom of the site show it as also available on PC CD-ROM. Woohoo! Ooops, I mean -- Hoo-ah!
Now all I need is someone to play it while I watch -- adrenaline voyeur that I am! ;oD
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 2 Jul 2004 20:15)
Andddd........
How many "euhm"'s does AM say in this interview :
http://www.zam.it/Autori/mcnab/2.html
(click on : <ascolti L'intervista di Andy Mcnab in Real Audio>) think it's the BBC interviewy about B20
>>By borisette (Saturday, 3 Jul 2004 02:03)
Here's another link to that AM interview, including a complete transcript (but they didn't include the "euhm's" so we can't cheat counting -- bummer!).
www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/gulf/war/2.html
The original interview is from the 1998 program "Frontline: The Gulf War" which has been posted here a few times, most recently, in terms of the gruesome testimony from US and UK POWs tortured by the Iraqis. Their interviews bring a different perspective to the recently released "torture" pictures.
www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/gulf/war/
>>By am-i-binned (Saturday, 3 Jul 2004 07:32)
Just cause you're all little Nabby followers doesn't mean you shouldn't know about Duncan Falconer's new book due out 19 of August : Title : The Hijack
(check out DF's board for review)
>>By borisette (Saturday, 3 Jul 2004 23:45)
Hey but is this right, this is pure promotion !!!
I should get paid for this !!
>>By borisette (Saturday, 3 Jul 2004 23:57)
Hello, ladies & gentlemen. :-)
Lost comms for a while there, but I've managed to adjust my dipole-antennae just right so that I'm getting a farily decent reception.
What's the latest newsflash?
>>By ortlieb (Sunday, 4 Jul 2004 00:06)
Latest newsflash: Ortie is back ;o)
>>By Lynn (Sunday, 4 Jul 2004 12:48)
Hey, Anyone who can get Sky...
History Channel, @ 2100 - 2300 Hours...
Bravo Two Zero, Behind Iraqi Lines...
====================
Weeks before the firing officially started in the 1991 Gulf War, eight members of Britain's elite Special Operations Regiment, the Special Air Service or SAS, secretly entered Iraq. Their mission was to find and destroy Scud missiles being fired into Israel. Failure could have had the highest repercussions. For the first time, (retired) senior USAF General, Charles Horner, tells Behind Iraqi Lines: 'I believe Israel threatened to use nuclear weapons...' unless the Scuds were stopped. These weapons of mass destruction could potentially be armed with chemical or biological warheads.
In a story that could be taken from tomorrow's headlines, this film is the true account of an operation that goes spectacularly wrong. After being discovered and attacked, some of the men were killed while others tried to escape by walking 200 miles across the Iraqi desert. A handful endured appalling torture at the hands of their captors. According to some reports, they left an estimated 200 Iraqi casualties in their wake.
The pioneering SAS patrol, call sign: 'Bravo Two Zero,' was led by Sergeant Andy McNab and included Corporal Chris Ryan. They entered Iraq on the night of January 22 1991, four days after the first Scud missiles fell on Israel. Behind Iraqi Lines combines the survivor's first hand accounts with dramatized reconstructions, to recount one of the most extraordinary operations in modern military history. It is a story of personal courage and human endurance, betrayed by a lack of equipment, bad intelligence and poor planning.
==================
S2K
>>By Shoot-To-Kill (Monday, 5 Jul 2004 19:46)
Ohh I almost Forgot, I Its On Tonight (Mon 5th July)
(I looked on their website and it looks as though its only on in the UK)
>>By Shoot-To-Kill (Monday, 5 Jul 2004 19:48)
Thanks for the info STK! Now if I only lived in the UK! ;-)
Ah well... good thing I finally got my DVD of B20 and just finished watching it! ;-)
I liked how the fellows were sketched out right from the beginning. I thought everyone came across well. Things were a bit different from the book but that's how TV/movies are made. I have to reread B20 to catch more than the most glaring changes but all in all, the producers handled a tough subject well. And I like how they kept the same basic ending. Well done.
Too bad that documentary is only on in the UK. I'd like to see it. Probably have to order that too. ;-)
Hope everyone had a happy 4th of July. :-)
>>By Dare (Monday, 5 Jul 2004 21:11)
Why didn't you tell us earlier???? I saw this too late, any ideas if the History Channel are gonna repeat it ?
Thnx
>>By Yanito (Tuesday, 6 Jul 2004 01:25)
It's TODAY, Yanito, TODAY!
Per The History Channel: "Please be aware that these programmes may be subject to change at short notice so please check the listings section on the website for definite transmission times closer to the time."
------------------------ Tuesday 06/07/2004 ------------------------ 14.00 BRAVO TWO ZERO: BEHIND IRAQI LINES
www.thehistorychannel.co.uk/ indexPHP.php?subpage= ontv&action=LoadContent
"Weeks before the firing officially started in the 1991 Gulf War, eight members of Britain's elite Special Operations Regiment, the Special Air Service or SAS, secretly entered Iraq. Their mission was to find and destroy Scud missiles being fired into Israel. Failure could have had the highest repercussions. For the first time, (retired) senior USAF General, Charles Horner, tells Behind Iraqi Lines: 'I believe Israel threatened to use nuclear weapons...' unless the Scuds were stopped. These weapons of mass destruction could potentially be armed with chemical or biological warheads.
In a story that could be taken from tomorrow's headlines, this film is the true account of an operation that goes spectacularly wrong. After being discovered and attacked, some of the men were killed while others tried to escape by walking 200 miles across the Iraqi desert. A handful endured appalling torture at the hands of their captors. According to some reports, they left an estimated 200 Iraqi casualties in their wake.
The pioneering SAS patrol, call sign: 'Bravo Two Zero,' was led by Sergeant Andy McNab and included Corporal Chris Ryan. They entered Iraq on the night of January 22 1991, four days after the first Scud missiles fell on Israel. Behind Iraqi Lines combines the survivor's first hand accounts with dramatized reconstructions, to recount one of the most extraordinary operations in modern military history. It is a story of personal courage and human endurance, betrayed by a lack of equipment, bad intelligence and poor planning." ------------------------
(Another bummer, Dare, we can't buy this -- the format is not NTSC compatible.)
Anyone willing to direct their webcam and mic at their TV so we can see too? A virtual simul-cast? Pleeeez!
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 6 Jul 2004 06:01)
NO !
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 6 Jul 2004 10:03)
hehe, I would if I could receive AIB :o) Yanito, History Channel repeats this program regularly so if you miss it this time you may have more luck next time.
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 6 Jul 2004 10:04)
I was a bit supprised about Am on the documentory, Normally his face is Darkened out, however on AM's Ultimate warrior, he shows his bottom half of his face, Last night on the tv, he showed his eyes, and nose in close-up zoom,
all we need now is crimestoppers to make up a picture of what he looks like from bits of different programs...
S2K
>>By Shoot-To-Kill (Tuesday, 6 Jul 2004 13:48)
unless he was using an eye-stand-in ;o)
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 6 Jul 2004 16:16)
LOL... Or maybe it was a chin-stand-in! Or would that be a "chin double"? ;-)
>>By Dare (Tuesday, 6 Jul 2004 16:58)
I have it on good authority that he is actually made from a police identikit and is not real at all. The books are all written by groups of school children who write one word each which are then editted by some very clever nuns, honest!
Or is it an infinite number of monkeys with an infinite number typewriters?
Wearing a bit thin though, this face hiding business, considering that all other SF writers are more than happy to have their mugshots everywhere and none have been shot yet.
>>By camban (Tuesday, 6 Jul 2004 17:22)
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