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Read that somewhere, or did someone tell me that.....
>>By borisette (Monday, 16 Feb 2004 18:20)
Borisette-
I think he said something about this in Bravo Two Zero... that he didn't follow soccer that well, but he tried to talk soccer with the Iraqi guards just to win them over.
>>By Majorette (Monday, 16 Feb 2004 19:03)
I can't believe I'm actually gonna comment on this, but hey, it's a slow day at work...
Andy's favorite Teletubby?
I would guess Tinky Winky, for the tabbing and marching:
"Tinky Winky is purple and the biggest Teletubby. His favorite thing is his special red bag. Tinky Winky loves walking, marching, dancing and falling over. He has a special song which he loves to sing to himself, "Pinkle winkle, Tinky Winky, pinkle winkle, Tinky Winky." Tinky Winky loves big hugs best of all. "
http://pbskids.org/teletubbies/characters.html
>>By Majorette (Monday, 16 Feb 2004 19:27)
Good Grief!!!!
Stevemitch,
I was a bit worried about you earlier -- after all, why would you know about handbag-toting teletubbies? ;o)
But Majorette,
I'm gonna get you some help! Until it arrives, why don't you sit over in this quiet corner... and here, put this hat on, it will keep your head warm.
[Whispered: What on earth was Maj thinking posting that Tinky-Winky stuff?!? Uh-oh, what's that? Ohlordy! Now she's humming to herself...] :o\
>>By am-i-binned (Monday, 16 Feb 2004 19:46)
But Po has a scooter !!
Anyway - I just wondered which one of them got to sit next to him on the couch :o)
>>By Lynn (Monday, 16 Feb 2004 19:57)
In my defense, I thought that "special red bag" was the latest model bergen. I'm sure it's filled with tons of ammo, Playboys, and other manly things.
And who doesn't have a "special song" that they sing to themselves? ("Pinkle winkle, Tinky Winky...")
>>By Majorette (Monday, 16 Feb 2004 20:02)
Lynn - how do you even know which one is Po, let alone whether he/she/it has a scooter? LOL
>>By bladwags (Monday, 16 Feb 2004 20:05)
Sheesh! How did we manage to go from tea-party pissing contests to patrols of strange little signals-trained characters toting red bergens (handbags) and tabbing (larking) about in the countryside? LOL!!! :oD
Majorette…
You were right about AM and soccer. AM mentions soccer/football a couple of times in B20 in terms of trying to form some sort of connection with the Iraqis holding him/them. Specific times that come to mind are in the barracks room while cuffed to the wall, in the corridor with Dinger, and when put into the cell with Dinger for the night.
And speaking of B20 leads to Soldier Five…
Does anyone know if the Soldier Five excerpts are abridged or not? (I'm sort of hoping they are.) I'm wondering, too, if the excerpts are a true indication of how Mike lays out his story, since he's not relating events in strictly predictable chronological order -- a nice change. I also liked his perspective on the various aspects of the compromise and subsequent contact -- especially considering all the doomsday predictions of damaging contradictions of AM's and CR's versions.
>>By am-i-binned (Monday, 16 Feb 2004 20:16)
Anyone catch the new series of "SAS Desert - Are you tough enough?" last night? How anyone manages to run in that heat is beyond me. I loved the girl who left her bergen because she thought it was more important to get to the RV point .... leaving behind the vital stuff such as water!
Talking of liquids, next time I'm stranded in the Sahara I guess I'll be fine as long as I remember to pee and have a couple of spare bottles handy :-)
>>By bladwags (Monday, 16 Feb 2004 20:19)
Who doesn't know how footy is played, just that some people can think of better things to be doing with time other than dribbling, bouncing, kicking, elbowing, kneeing, sneak T grabbing from one of end of pitch to tother, and no backs/defence allowed beyond opposing teams 25 yd line, right? Hockey is much the same, see, only you get added advantage of having a lethal weapon inhand!! In fact, I'd love to see a an SAS team take on a female hockey team, the boys wouldn't know what had hit 'em - think St Trinians...That reminds me, RAF boys in short pants....NO NO NO, I will shut up, quick....
I can see the humorous aspect of T Tubbies, but do prefer like Readit, Captain Pugwash humour, that is if you're inclined to seaman talk and.......... I'll leave it there, because it embarressed the BBC when they discovered what the names of the characters implied in adult terms (years afterwards)...
Soldier 5: didn't I say, "Wait and see"!! Still, one does have to speculate to accumulate, and here at gnooks postees so easily add 2 and 2 to make 6...
N, your bl**dy keyboard configuration has gone telepathic...
>>By devonwren (Monday, 16 Feb 2004 20:38)
"but do prefer like Readit, Captain Pugwash humour, that is if you're inclined to seaman talk"
OH, DW what a shame, you have fallen for that old urban myth, guess all your research, cut paste stuff sometimes lets you down. Check out the following link, Captain Pugwash is innocent
http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/pugwash.htm
>>By stevemitch (Monday, 16 Feb 2004 22:11)
What exactly has cut 'n' paste got to do with what I posted?
I stated the humour associated with the Captain Pugwash series "embarrassed" the BBC, so it did...
However, I didn't state that it was "true" or "false", but did say the unseemly humour is more in Readit's Naval/SBS mindset....
As for, "double entendre" - oft used to good or bad effect "here" on occasion - maybe you'll notice one that rings your bell !
May I ask what I've done to offend you? After all, you seem hell-bent on charging me with copy-paste affliction, not something I strive to be accomplished in the art of, though you're good 'n' dapper at posting urls...Top marks if you can post one every post - AM related, of course...
Sounds like you've got an awfully bad grief-itch that needs scratching... May I apply for the job, or shall I let F-Troop set your next assault course?
>>By devonwren (Monday, 16 Feb 2004 23:31)
did I hit a nerve, honey? ooops
all my itching is sorted, thanks all the same, and you are a little old for me.
>>By stevemitch (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 00:44)
Well, you can't be too young yourself SM - this game you're playing is oooooooold.
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 08:35)
Oh dear, Lynn, we have another boy-racer cheer-all masquerading as man.
Honey, and only "a little too old"! Oh gosh, SM, you sound like Pooh!!
Pooh sounds more cuddly than SM, but that aside, you totally misunderstood my comment, <<claws ready sharpened>> and chose the xxx flork tactic - tad too thick to understand the full meaning of why xxx comes into the file cases of "box" management. Haven't you figured specific areas of military personnel are classed sensitive in vulnerable situations same as ministerial posts at HP, when errant tastes lead to unseemly premises...
Talking undercover work, and AM voicing credit-card acquisition from temporary address' and setting up of bogus companies, (CF) it comes as quite a revelation to know that companies/organisations, sometimes, can only be infiltrated from the inside due to inbred need for discretion/tight-lipped management, and sometimes it takes years to build a file on key places and patrons, all the while the every day intelligence "ticks" along, names popping up here and there and the risque ones handed on for second opinion...
>>By devonwren (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 10:45)
Slanging match aside, DW (Dark Winter) in the frame, did anyone think twice when Suzy referred to AM as Norfolk boy?
>>By devonwren (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 10:55)
"The Today Programme on Radio 4 have confirmed that they will interview Mike Coburn, author of SOLDIER FIVE on Monday 1st March"
All you yanks with internet access needn't miss out, oh I'm so nice to you guys. If everyone normally on here listens we could double the ratings!
>>By Bethan (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 11:14)
And if we use all the radios in the house?? Just kidding - what do you mean by Internet - to listen live or will it also be possible to listen to it later? Will it be during the day or evening? Details!!! Please. :o)
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 11:47)
Seaman Staines and Roger the cabin boy - what this wasn't real, well real or not it made me titter.
You got some beef with people around here stevemitch?
AM seemed familiar with Kings Lynn (Norfolk) which seemed an odd choice for a location in dark Winter. Again picked this up during Tesco's browse. Anyone enlighten me why Kings Lynn?
I hate football and after Saturday I hate Rugby too (bethan I salute you ;-).
I didn't come on here to talk football.
What have we come too - comparing AM and David beckham like playground kids - is this your doing stevemitch? If so Why not go and pick on someone your own size, we're obviously too big for you and you might get hurt sonny!
Reggie, must be raining at Camp in Suffolk this morning?
Pimms, Iced T, whisky, Guiness, brandy - bring em all on in one big glass!
>>By Nomad (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 12:48)
sorry girls, but you give us such a belly laugh reading all this stuff about "AM", I have sent it from Bahrain to Oz to South America, it is keeping us amused. Did you know there is a real world out there?
www.bbc.co.uk/ you can listen live, and some programs are on site for a week, so you can listen anytime.
>>By stevemitch (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 12:50)
" it is keeping us amused. Did you know there is a real world out there"
eeeerrrr… you keep confusing me SM. You want us to get back to the real world so you lose your amusement??
Bbc.co.uk – but the interview is on radio 4 ? Is that the same thing?
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 13:59)
Could enlighten you Nomad about Kings Lynn but you won't believe me :o)
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 14:06)
www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/
I think that's right, Lynn, done it from memory.
>>By Bethan (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 14:27)
Well thank you dear!
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 14:36)
Can we take it, SM, you're "sitting-on-a-cactus atitude" is a reflection of the "real world"? Bearing in mind this is a fairly International board of posters...
Er, umm, is being here good for your rep in the real world, then? I mean, most of the lads (military) who come here kick out at AM in the first instance, slam the girlies round here in much the same tone as yourself (girlie AM fan I sure ain't, being as I get stick for assaulting AM from time to time, from the inhouse crowd) but in the long-term quite a few military guys mellow and hang around sawhile with F-Troop and some make friends, others are called away by outside events (Readit for one), and some drift in the real word for months then drop by out of the blue with a much less aggressive stance than before...
It matters little whether you like AM or hate his bl**dy guts, the plain fact is he's got books out there that are a good read (some less good than others). He's also good at self publicity same as Ryan, and the rest of the SAS/SBS authors are just not matching up on the publicity front...After all, there are some better writers among the less famous (story tellers) JTCH gets my vote on presentation and literary merit any day...And please, don't rouse the ghosting spook yet again: Rose-by-any-other covered that in full...
The plain fact of the matter of writing is, that anyone can learn the craft , same as anyone can be taught to drive a car, but artistically not everyone has natural flair anymore than as drivers we are top class and never cockup while sitting behind the wheel...There are books out there that in literary terms are masterpieces, the plots not so, and as for formulated books written to publisher housestyle, well, read one you've read 'em all... That's why crime novels, for moi, leave me cold: the killer predicted a few pages in and who gives a sh*t as to how long the author ploughed on with a twist here and there...Nearly every TV detective series repeats each other (variation on Christie/Rendall/James/theme) and what's the betting they were all crime novel fans as kids?
For me, coming here, is a bit like taking a tea-break on a park bench: observing, passing the time of day, etc...Other days it's more a case of a brisk walk, and occasionally it involves umbrella talk...(B miserable outside...)
What was your reason for dropping by, SM, and what military books fit in with your "to read list" ? Obviously not AM!
As yet, you haven't clarified what your objection/s is/are to the man...You see, I know a lot of SF guys, happened to be married to one, and of the majority, well, they say their piece on SF writers, agree or disagree with me on my stance of ex serving SF personnel turned authors, but that doesn't mean we don't carry on a perfectly civil conversation on the overall subject of ex SFP turned authors, and quite a few military personnel actually enjoy the books...
>>By devonwren (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 14:45)
Damn-it-to-Hell! Okay, my turn!
A year and a half plus, and once again we're caught up in the almost-always-the-same stupid cycle of s**t. Starts out with little pokes and prods, some "I know more than you do's", then a few ugly "hormones raging, are they?" comments, and from there it's a breakneck downhill race to Poof-land.
Why? What is the point? What is the problem? What do any of us gain by this stupid behavior? It is a given that people will, can, and do have differing opinions, viewpoints and areas of expertise and knowledge. I don't come here to spar; I come here to share. I enjoy exchanging ideas and learning, but how can anyone even begin to think straight or open-mindedly when everything denigrates into these childish games of personal insults, jabs and slaps? Those of you who enjoy playing nasty, take it offboard. All the snippy, aggressive macho/bitchy piss-taking gets very, very old, very, very fast, especially because it's all been played out here sooooo many times before. Only the names of the posters have changed, but certainly not in any effort to protect the innocent...
May we get back to civilized footing now, please? This Cannes Shuffle is a royal pain where you can't put a bandaid!
[MG: I know this post is in violation of your guidelines, but I've said my bit now... feel free to poof at will... ]
Fanx... :o)
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 15:06)
Ooops! Sorry, Devonwren!
I didn't realize you posted while I was caught up in the heat of ranting... :o\
I need to clarify that my tirade does not include your most recent (14:45) post!
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 15:28)
Lynn - you'd be surprised what I believe. Did Kings Lynn or other Norfolk locations ever feature in any other AM books. Don't remember it in either B2Z or IA.
>>By Nomad (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 15:46)
Excellent, Bethan!
Thanks for the heads-up! Maybe we should start courting Mainstream Publishing now about giving F Troop advance notice. (God forbid they develop the same attitude and bad habits as Transworld, etc. exhibit with AM's stuff.)
Ohman, Bladwags!
Another SAS program? Sheesh, you guys must love seeing us Yanks turn green with envy! Anyone willing to aim their webcam/mic at the tv and beam it over thru a chat?
<< did anyone think twice when Suzy referred to AM as Norfolk boy >>
Uhm... not really, Devonwren...
...since Nick had purchased a "1930s, three-bedroomed, detached mess of pebble-dash" in 1997 "up on the Norfolk coast in the middle of nowhere" that "had been empty for several years after the previous owners had died, probably of hypothermia." (Firewall)
Why do you ask?
Hi, Nomad…
Lynn will cover Kings Lynn with you, but re: the house itself -- Nick had bought the Norfolk house by the beginning of Crisis Four, had it up for sale during Firewall, and had sold it by Last Light…
Soldier Five follow-up:
Did the Sunday Mail have another installment of Soldier Five on Sunday?
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 16:02)
" The plain fact of the matter of writing is, that anyone can learn the craft "
(AM January 2004)
My favourite subject was a course at Bristol University in communication skills, which essentially taught us how to write. I was there for five months. It was very relaxed, very different from school - and the army, for that matter!
I didn't show much aptitude for writing at that point, though. When it came to writing my first book, I just transferred the presentations I'd been making to the military on to paper.
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 16:29)
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