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Bits from a review of SAS Desert...
"Staff Sergeant Eddie Stone, a Scot doing a marvellously accurate impersonation of a charmless bully, seemed quite keen to kill his volunteers."
...No! Can we believe this of Eddie?
"Punch-ups, forced marches in scorching heat, running around in the dark with rifles: everything that made Britain the country it is today was there."
...Certainly made this town what it is today...
"One woman declared: "I love the whole military thing. I love the strictness and control. I think the whole world should be run like that." Allowing her near firearms seemed unwise, I thought."
...Hmmm...sounds like one of F-Troop was there...
Anyway, I didn't see it...was it the first of the series?
Aye aye Sir...back to work.
>>By bikergirl (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 16:53)
Yes, first of the series. A real shocker was that one guy had to hand in his flossing ribbon!!!!!
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 17:00)
Uhm...
I was gonna say: "Bikergirl, I rest my case! You do like to torture us green."
But now, considering the shocker Lynn's just revealed and previous innovative uses for dental floss (thank you, Astroboy, Borisette et al), I'm thinking maybe it's better to "be careful what you wish for..."! hahaha!
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 17:13)
Well - in that case I feel free to tell you: SAS documentary on Dutch TV, 4 episodes - starting this Friday. In case there are more tulips here (.....huh?? no more tulips??) and from what I hear even the commercial break is worth watching, but that in an aside.
And now for something completely different...
... An everyday story of military folk? It certainly rings a bell, says
Andy McNab, a former SAS soldier and the author of Bravo Two Zero. ...
<http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1001615,00.html>
Anyone access to the article ?????????? Flork please ???!!!
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 19:07)
Ohmigod, Lynn!
You don't want to go there! Trust me!!!! hahahaha!!!!
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 19:16)
Well - if you say it like that I definitely want to go there, hehehe
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 19:27)
Is he really this good? Or am I missing something?
>>By mebaroo (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 19:29)
I hate working late!!
The best bit of handing in the dental floss? When he asked him if he was a poof at the same time. The other funniest bit? The woman wearing a thong, amazing but true!!
It was the first bg, I would have missed it if eagle eyed hubby hadn't spotted it....
>>By Bethan (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 19:36)
Thanks for the Flork (timesonline)
I'm shocked
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 19:40)
Hi Mebaroo, he's as good as 144 pages F Troop.
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 19:48)
Re: yellow -thong-wearing woman. Didn't much like taking orders from old Eddie, eh? How long do you give her before she gets kicked out?!
>>By bladwags (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 20:02)
Reality SAS (crap) TV? You're not, you can't be, can you, all?
Oh my God, you're just throwing ammo at the likes of SM, Rose, and the rest who apparently spend their time laughing their socks off at F-Troop...
Reality it isn't, not when a re-take of blokes so-called in trouble (last time round SAS are you tough enough) ended up lying on the pavement, the result a bit vague in the dark, one bloke missing next shot! Worse is the luxury reality pad show with James Hewitt/Jade/Maureen et al, (the thought alone a turn-off factor). Then there was Lord Brocket chops in the jungle, what a bunny boy he is?! Bit of historical info on his home pad (Brocket Hall) - remember The Professionals series, the car zooming over the bridge at Brocket Hall? I can tell you, there's some wobbly parapets on that bridge, watched them teetering on the brink gratis herd of cows whistled up by a renegade cowman, car stuck middle of bridge as moos stampeded past...
That really is sad viewing material...Gee, I'd rather settle down a read an AM book/s again than suffer reality TV...
>>By devonwren (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 23:30)
All quiet on the Western Front, and back to the old troop slooging away the pages...The last few days did see a bit of adrenaline flushed flak - lively but not very serious effect on morale...
Norfolk boy: trust me to think Suzy brighter, perhaps, than she was meant to be...I didn't associate Norfolk boy with house in Norfolk, I was thinking Stateside connection Virginia...
>>By devonwren (Tuesday, 17 Feb 2004 23:58)
I'm not watching the Desert Are you tough enough. seen it all before and bored of Eddie now.
Reggie you mentioned balistics as a pet subject well I have a query.
In Immediate Action - Jungle Phase of Selection Andy McNab is told to take cover behind the biggest tree in the world - as it would stop a 7.62 mm round.
I wondered what is the maximum thickness of wood a 7.62 mm round would pass through (does type of wood matter - try mahogany or ply or chip board if you prefer) just with a standard army rifle and something a bit fancier if you have time to explain.
AIB - thanks for your scholarly explanation of Norfolk connection - knew I could rely on you.
>>By Nomad (Wednesday, 18 Feb 2004 09:55)
Here's something that I've been thinking about for a while. Notable scars. In IA AM claims a leech left it's mark on him for life - so all you have to do find the mark of the beastie.
Anyone else ever think about this or am I the only weirdo here?
>>By Nomad (Wednesday, 18 Feb 2004 13:16)
I would be surprised if there weren't any scars - there has been an intesting conversation about it on Page 47-48, it attracted even some new posters - so your not the only weirdo here.
That conversation was about a facial scar yes or no, in a recent interview was mentioned (had to translate so hope I did well)
"His extreme course of life doesn’t show on his face or in his behaviour: no scars, deadly eyes or skittish movements"
(interview Crimezone)
Then... some say he DOES have deadly eyes, so maybe it's subjective to the person looking at his face.
While reading back I found a site that I had not watched for a long time - it's a nice one though, so for the new posters:
www.stuwriter.com/SAS.html
And eeeerrr.. one question Nomad, that leech mark - if not on the face.. where and how do you suggest we'd look for it ??
>>By Lynn (Wednesday, 18 Feb 2004 14:21)
Oh yes Lynn - you have an encyclopaedic knowledge of past archives.
Leech teeth marks on pride and joy? Look carefully would be my only suggestion Lynn and don't let him catch you looking.
Other possibilities that occurred to me.
Pricks - four of them in right thigh area. - caused by fork tines? Probably healed long ago and no longer visible.
Flash bang component burn to hand - again probably not permanent and healed?
Where is everyone today? I'm gonna end up talking to myself in a minute.
>>By Nomad (Wednesday, 18 Feb 2004 16:40)
Scarred tissue: noticeable scarring reflected in depth/breadth of cut/jab - layers of skin/flesh affected, inner/outer stitches required if any...Burns/scalds similar...
How many of you have scars still visible from accidents during childhood and teen years let alone adult misadventures, bearing in mind medical practise has moved on some in terms of A & E emergency procedures of dealing with cuts/sprains/broken limbs when he was a mere lad...
Lynn & AIB remind me of librarian mentality - out of a building full of books a good librarian can lay hands on the very book you're looking for without much a do...But. on occasion, the expertise shown here in filling a void on what was said/happened where and when in a specific AM book is just so amazingly brilliant, like they wrote all the books themselves...Handy that, because it saves the less knowleable the trouble of looking up a query the hard way.
>>By devonwren (Wednesday, 18 Feb 2004 17:06)
Seriously: if you've got all the AM board pages logged, all you need do is utilise Ctrl key & F key = instant search facility...
Why would anyone want the AM/CR archives (that are here) on file at home/office?
Well, each to their own I guess...
>>By devonwren (Wednesday, 18 Feb 2004 17:16)
Shhhh, Devonwren!
You're giving away strategic OCRD tradecraft! LOL!!!!
>>By am-i-binned (Wednesday, 18 Feb 2004 18:05)
Hi Nomad,
Hope you enjoyed your visit to Camp. As you were in the vicinity, it made sense to drop in and see me in good ol' Suffolk. Not the normal thing I'd do to strangers, but the big cat thing was so curious - I'm a sucker for curiosity. Weather's still a bit dank and dingy. Was the info on exotic cats reported on MOD Estates OK. Hope me and the boys didn't scare you too much while training !
The rounds you saw fired on the range (Accuracy International) were not the standard 7.62mm NATO fmj, but a variant A.I. rifle chambered for .338 Lapua Magnum round. Hence the size difference, as you commented on.
Regards,
Reginald
PS : Nomad, I've seen .338 Lapuas (the rounds you saw) go through a 3 in. timber with still reasonable grouping on the target behind (200mts).
>>By Reginald (Wednesday, 18 Feb 2004 18:31)
Mmmm..... Cordite
D'oh! :o)
>>By am-i-binned (Wednesday, 18 Feb 2004 18:38)
Nomad - 7.62 question:
It would all depend on
A) Type of wood
B) The thickness of the wood (how many layers)
C) The velocity of the projectile
D) Type of weapon used
E) Type of ammunition
If you pack even snow hard enough, it'll stop a NATO-standard 7.62 round, so it's not totally inconceivable that wood would do the same. All factors above taken into consideration though....
>>By ortlieb (Wednesday, 18 Feb 2004 19:57)
One thing about Cordite, AIB, if you can still smell it you ain't dead yet!!
Why are men such open books - follyfoot farm 'n' all that...?
Never mind scaring the boys, Reg, what about the poor blackfaced beggars (polite usage) all round yer, watching from the tree-line...Hope you sleep well tonight...
>>By devonwren (Wednesday, 18 Feb 2004 21:17)
Blimey...I've only been away a few days and the board has gone mad....tellytubbies, the craft (unsure if meaning wicca or what here...)lol, a new SAS series and all sorts..wow... me head is spinning.
What TV Channel is the new SAS We're very tough in the Desert on? Must tune in for a giggle...
>>By TabariGoddess (Wednesday, 18 Feb 2004 23:13)
hey all, whats this i hear about AM and CR being telly tubbys?
>>By cavemole (Thursday, 19 Feb 2004 00:22)
Hey cavemole,
The whole Teletubby thing is a reference to the "My Secret Life" interview with Andy McNab in which he was asked to complete the sentence, "At night I dream of..."
He replied, "not telling you, apart from one where the Teletubbies were watching Newsnight with me, eating chips."
I think I still have the whole transcript; if you want it, flork me.
>>By Majorette (Thursday, 19 Feb 2004 03:01)
Wow Majorette, AM must have a very big couch to fit him and all the Tubbies on....
>>By TabariGoddess (Thursday, 19 Feb 2004 07:30)
The Daily Stir - scoop (not poop)
Shocking revelations from the AM board this weekend surrounding bizarre practices involving alcohol and man's best friend, yes everyone knows our Andy. Sorry man's best friend, dog, not Andy, dog! In our pursuit of the truth we asked our SF insider, Mandy McNab, for more intel.
She arrived promptly as usual, the lure of a pint of pims at the Duck & Dog an irresistible incentive. She greeted us with a handshake surprisingly firm for a hand so small wearing her trademark sunglasses, even in the dim pub light. We pondered whether it was for anonymity or merely because she hadn't finished her course of botox around the crows feet. She certainly hadn't signed up for laser treatment yet, judging by the stubble.
After hours of subtle questioning and the downing of many pints, we can finally reveal the truth as seen with our own eyes. Mandy whistled at one point in the evening and her trusty hound trotted in and sat at her feet beneath the table. A swift movement saw Mandy's full pint glass disappear, only to return a few minutes later, virtually empty save for some spaniel slobber.
Finally, we understood how two seasoned drinkers...ummm...reporters had been unable to keep pace with Mandy on previous sessions. We had been considering the possibility that Mandy was in possession of a male liver. In fact if she was, how could we be sure that was really spaniel slobber in the glass that emerged from beneath the table? After all, we're the gorgeous B.A.B.E.S....
>>By B.A.B.E.S (Thursday, 19 Feb 2004 09:30)
http://www.varsity.cam.ac.uk/
VarsityOnline/Online2/Content/Life/
StoriesTerm3/191198_macnab.html
i'm sure u will all have seen this interview. andy mcnab claims that chris ryan didn't write totga. some of u have inside knowledge and i was wondering if that is true.
>>By scooby doo (Thursday, 19 Feb 2004 10:21)
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