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I AM WELL AND TRULY P****D OFF !!!
>>By Yes-Man (Monday, 12 Jan 2004 18:45)
Sorry, Yes-Man... will resend now... :o)
>>By am-i-binned (Monday, 12 Jan 2004 19:05)
Am-i-binned
thanx for that...
it was great.
it was good to see that you got the last word in...
(or was that your editing?...)
>>By Yes-Man (Monday, 12 Jan 2004 19:25)
Has anybody seen the November 8, 2003 article entitled "My Secret Life" by Andy McNab that starts with:
"I drive/ride ... a BMW 1100RS motorbike in the summer and a BMW X5 4X4 during the winter.
If I have time to myself ... I lie on the sofa with the remote and channel hop."
What gives? I thought he had a Ducati?
He also goes on to mention a dream about Teletubbies.
>>By Majorette (Monday, 12 Jan 2004 19:26)
Sorry AIB and Nomad for the confusion... It's difficult to read properly when you have a black bar covering your eyes. ;-)
Thanks, Nomad, for your limerick. I've been getting quite a few of them sent my way by random florkers. I'm thinking I may revise my info to discourage the more colorful ones.
Ortlieb,
I think you are right about Nick exercising his paternal skills. But I can't help but think back to when I was Kelly's age. If a grown man who was a friend of daddy's had told me to get undressed and hop into the tub, I would have done a 180 and bolted.
>>By Majorette (Monday, 12 Jan 2004 20:06)
Hey Majorette...
can u post the link of that mcnab info...
ohhh. and on one of his online chats last year he mentioned that his fav bike is the ducati but his wife managed to persuade him into getting the BMW
>>By Yes-Man (Monday, 12 Jan 2004 20:13)
OK, I'm gonna need some legal advice here. I found that article through a subscription-based document delivery service called LEXIS NEXIS (You would not be able to access the link unless you were a subscriber). The article was attributed to The Independent, which I believe is a UK paper but when I searched their website I couldn't find the article.
I would just copy and paste the text onto the board but I don't want to violate any copyright laws. Perhaps those who would like a copy should just flork me privately?
>>By Majorette (Monday, 12 Jan 2004 20:33)
Oooh, Chats R Us! Yes, a copy to me please, Majorette!
Here's the link to the World Book Day Festival online chat on March 6, 2003: http://www.worldbookdayfestival.com/2003/ (AM was the 7-8pm time slot). AM also did an online This Is London chat on March 20, 2003. The link to the doesn't seem to be available anymore but I had saved that transcript.
If anyone would like the WBDF or either/both of the TIL transcripts, just let me know and I'll flork them over... :o)
>>By am-i-binned (Monday, 12 Jan 2004 21:48)
Hey... am-i-binned
can you flork me the WBDF chat cos everytime i go to the website i get that ilegal operation crap on my computer.
thanx
>>By Yes-Man (Monday, 12 Jan 2004 22:10)
Hello all I have rang the BBC tonight about SAS Survival Secrets and when the episode that was cancelled Sun night is going to be shown?They have not scheduled it in yet, and cannot even tell me that it will actually be shown. They've suggested I call back in a few days, but in the meantime I have found a listing somewhere on BBC saying that SAS Survival Secrets is on on Wed 14 Jan at 0300-0400hrs. Dunno if this is true, but in case, it may be worth checking it out... Will update you all on the board if I get any more info...
Tab
>>By TabariGoddess (Monday, 12 Jan 2004 22:21)
hey TabariGoddess...
you might be right ... they normally show a repeat of SAS SS in the middle of the night on wednesdays...
>>By Yes-Man (Monday, 12 Jan 2004 22:43)
They'd better show that last episode after the nightmares I had after the darts....... Hair like that shouldn't be allowed!!!
>>By Bethan (Tuesday, 13 Jan 2004 10:02)
Catchin' up here...
Re. BABES vs BULLIES Mountain Challenge AIB: "Any bootie you find... Is that...bootie (noun), contraction of bootneck, slang for Royal Marine? Those crag hopping B.A.B.E.S'll win for sure if that's what we're after... Next instalment please...
And how pleased was this little bikergirl to have a video tape of fat barsteward darts to watch...
>>By bikergirl (Tuesday, 13 Jan 2004 13:27)
Due to technical problems :Coming up soon ;o)
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 13 Jan 2004 13:32)
Well AIB you'll be glad to know the relaxwithabook thingy has reopened. For those who don't know what I'm talking about, just go and type www.relaxwithabook.com then you type AM's name and you get 2 interviews, with the "Man" speaking. They are old interviews regarding his books Firewall and Liberation day but anyway it's nice to hear them. Thanks Majy for the flork.
BEthan, Yesman, Taby and BG, well at least you get to see the SAS series, us here don't get to see a thing, not even the DArts World Championship. (do they win throwing the darts or holding up their beers???)
Nomad, I had my puter yesterday ending like your toilet. The damn thing had gone "Bazouk". Then luckily the SF man I have at home worked all night on the thing so now it's working again, and BULLIES will be back soooooooon
I isss a coming Lynnnnn, wait for meeeee.
>>By borisette (Tuesday, 13 Jan 2004 14:25)
I've over half-way through RC now, and there's something that seemed odd to me. TabariGoddess, perhaps you can give some professional pointers on this one:
I'm referring to the scene where Nick finally tells Kelly the truth about her parents and sisters death. I think that Kelly's reaction is trumendously unrealistic. I find this especially puzzling as AM is a guy who usually pays great attention to detail and authenticity. I would count on him consulting with a pediatric psycho-therapist to get pointers on how to keep it realistic, but this can't possibly have been the case here.
Not only was Kelly finally receiving the news of her parents and sisters death, but she had just been involved in a violent hostage-situation with McGear at the PIRA HQ. And don't forget that the death of Kev and his family's death was a particularly gory one in the first place, and that Kelly was a (auditive) witness to it all. I would expect that with all this towering above her, she would have an extreme reaction to extreme circumstances - her having a mental shutdown that would border to autistic behaviour or something of that nature. Instead, she matter-of-factly goes on about wanting to "be with Nick then", as her parents are gone. This isn't just a far too pragmatic adult mentality to fit a 7-year-old, but it simply boils down to bad writing on AM's part..... (sorry AIB ;)
And another thing: having the skin is his neck split open by a fire-extinguisher (again, referring to the hostage-drama with McGear) would normally require some sewing, wouldn't it?
But hey : it's his first fiction. He's done a good job so far, so a slip now and then isn't the end of the world. :)
>>By ortlieb (Tuesday, 13 Jan 2004 14:26)
Hey borisette...
Thanks for that link...
i Never seen it before...
gotta go now cos im diggin into "Crisis Four" again now... for the third time...
>>By Yes-Man (Tuesday, 13 Jan 2004 15:40)
Hi, All...
An offboard question was asked: "What does the F stand for in F Troop?" So I apologize to our newer posters; I'm afraid we've gotten complacent and take this reference for granted anymore. We became F Troop way, way back (pg 4) -- at Lynn's suggestion. At the time, there seemed to be only four active chatters (buddy, Lynn, Paul R and a-i-b), so Lynn quipped that we could be Air, Boat, Mobility and Mountain and call ourselves F Troop. F Troop is a direct reference to IA, Chapter 19, when AM was in Belize in July 1980: "Britain had kept a small garrison in Belize ever since as a permanent deterrent against incursions, and we were going there as part of that force. ... The British presence amounted to something like an infantry battalion plus all the support -- Harrier jump jets, artillery, the lot. And part of that was an outfit called F Company, basically a dozen Regiment and SBS blokes. It had quickly been renamed F Troop after the comedy series about a US cavalry unit in the Wild West, manned by a load of bumbling old idiots."
Excellent news, Borisette! Now if we can just find a way to download the interviews so that if Relax With A Book decides to go walkabout again anytime in the future, I won't get so grrrrrrrrrrrr!
Standby, Ortlieb... My reply to your spoiler is coming (obviously this means I don't quite agree). vbg!!! :o) vbw!!! ;o)
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 13 Jan 2004 15:55)
Allrighty then! :) *LOL*
Get yer flak-jackets on people - this can get ugly. :)
>>By ortlieb (Tuesday, 13 Jan 2004 16:00)
I bet I know what ami-i-binned is going to say. I'll keep my trap shut, though, until after we read the reply.... If it's not what I suspect, I'll throw in my two cents.
>>By Majorette (Tuesday, 13 Jan 2004 16:31)
'scuz me, Ortlieb -- "this can get ugly"?!? Speak for yourself, boy-o! Hmphf!
Look for me to be lobbing a lively (yet lovely) line of logic into your LUP... literally! ;o)
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 13 Jan 2004 16:39)
Can't wait.... :)
>>By ortlieb (Tuesday, 13 Jan 2004 19:20)
Wow, Ortlieb!
My position was going to be based on personal experience and knowledge, but I let my OCRD (Obsessive Compulsive Research Disorder) get the better of me and went looking for substantiating information. Now I’m even more impressed with AM.
Note: Since we’re talking about Remote Control, the first of the NS stories, I have placed Spoilers within Spoilers where the comment/information is relevant to the subsequent storylines…
Since AM wrote Kelly as a seven-year-old, my position is that she would not fully comprehend the concept of death and its permanence. Also, young children think primarily in terms of the present, so she would not realize that the deaths of her parents and sister meant that she no longer had a future with a family and a permanent home. And now the research… Delayed Mourning: For some children, grief may be too great to express. In some cases of acute grief, a child may appear oblivious to the loss. Some experts say that children have a "short sadness span," so you shouldn't expect a long period of grief in most cases. Source: http://library.adoption.com/Death-Grieving/ Discussing-Death-with-Preschoolers/article/1164/1.html ---------- Age 2-6 years: - Often believe that death is reversible, temporary - May perceive death as a punishment - Magical thinking that wishes come true (such as guilt that they had negative feeling toward the person who died, and that was the cause of death) Age 6-11 years: - Gradual understanding of irreversibility and finality of death - Concrete reasoning with ability to comprehend cause and effect relationship Children need lots of reassurance that they will be loved and cared for by a consistent adult. They also must be assured that they did not cause the death, nor could they have prevented it. Grief is a process that unfolds over time. The initial shock and denial may change into sadness and anger that can last from weeks to months.
Some children seem to show no emotional response to death, which can be disconcerting to family members. Some normal behaviors include: shock, crying, sadness, anger, guilt, increased clinginess, disobedience, lack of interest in school, sleep difficulties, decreased appetite, temporary regression to more childish behavior, physical complaints. Signs of a problem or disorder include: long-term denial, repeated crying spells, disabling depression, suicidal thoughts, persistent anger, persistent unhappiness, social withdrawal, severe separation anxiety, delinquency or promiscuity, decline in school performance, persistent sleep problems, eating disorders, long-term avoidance of feelings.
Source: www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/ article/001909.htm --------- Children are people, and in many ways they react to death like the rest of us. They may feel shock or deny at first that death has occurred. They may feel guilty for not being "good" to the person who died, and they may become depressed. Children often conclude that they somehow caused the death. They may think, "I was bad, so Mommy left," or "I wished my sister would die, and she did." Children can also react to death in surprising and erratic ways. They may greet the news of a loved one's death with nothing more than a shrug, then express their grief in subtle ways later. They may regress and begin sucking their thumbs, wetting the bed, or otherwise acting like infants. It's very difficult to say when a child needs counseling to overcome unresolved grief. The grief process is not a series of neat, separate stages; it is more like an emotional rollercoaster ride. Feelings of depression or anger or sadness can come roaring back months after the death.
Source: www.hillfuneral.com/children.html Ohmiyes! An excellent bit of preparation and definitely long-range planning…. (the 7 Ps?)… :o)
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 13 Jan 2004 20:35)
Gosh AIB that's some research you've done there. They should hire you on MI5 or MI6 or whatever spooks they got over there in the US.
Andyway, MOuntain Challenge is on its way!! Get ready BABES!!!
>>By borisette (Tuesday, 13 Jan 2004 20:45)
Holy smokes! I check in for the first time in a few days and I wind up spending half an hour catching up. "Prolific" is the term that comes to mind right away.
A pre-planned dust-up, eh? This is new. Usually they just kinda erupt on their own. As a frequent loser-of-bets, I will take it upon myself to set the wagering line: AIB favored by 3 points, with the over/under on personal insults at a peaceable, mutually respecting 2.
Just to add a bit of fuel to the fire, I found the "reaction" to be believable, in that you never know how young children will react to news of that magnitude.
Let the fisticuffs begin!!
>>By Astroboy (Tuesday, 13 Jan 2004 21:40)
And that's what happens when an hour and a half elapses between beginning and completeing a post on THIS board. The action starts without you!
Going into the bottom of the first (American baseball term), it's AIB up 1-0.
>>By Astroboy (Tuesday, 13 Jan 2004 21:45)
Yes am-i-binned.... you certainly suffer from OCRD, and I recommend you give Tabby a call for some councelling. :) *vbg*
Joking aside though....
I haven't read that far ahead since I posted my comments about Kelly's (lack of) reaction (NS is searching his laptop to see what kind of data he managed to copy from the PIRA HQ computer), so I don't know if AM has put in some of the delayed mourning events for Kelly (according to your thurough research) as the story progresses. But I certainly agree with the fact that you've got relevant data to back up your "counter-post". The parents death aside though -- I would expect Kelly to be more "traumatized" (or influenced at least) by the recent hostage-drama. Keep in mind that she got physically stepped on by both NS and McGear as NS jumped on him to push back the topslide of McGear's 9mm. Also, I would think that being a witness to a guy (NS) biting off pieces of flesh and skin from another persons face like a wild animal would generate a more substantial reaction on Kelly's part than what is portrayed in the book. It did say that Kelly had probably run away since McGear was no longer holding her in his right hand, but I should think that even all the commotion, shouting, hitting, gunfire etc. etc. alone would be a tough load of inputs to handle for a 7-year-old.
It's hard to argue with scientific data (and you sure found plenty of it), so I suppose a leighman's opinion doesn't stand that much of a chance in any case. I'm not going to dwell too much on this... It would be interesting though to hear if Tabby's got some viewpoints on this - as a professional on the subject.
Looking forward to further reading!
>>By ortlieb (Tuesday, 13 Jan 2004 22:16)
TRAILER - DAY 2 MOUNTAIN CHALLENGE
In another galaxy....
In a paralel world...
Something is growing..
It's a challenge
……...........…."I want to win this!!”
It's a battle
………...…….. “Aaaaaaaaaaaw!”
It's about love
……............…..” Where the H*aven are you???”
It’s got action
………………. “Stand by - Stand by!
It’s got it all !!!!
MOUNTAIN CHALLENGE PART 2 - COMING SOON - DON'T MISS IT
>>By B.U.L.L.I.E.S (Tuesday, 13 Jan 2004 22:35)
Ooops! Hurry up, BULLIES, I have a worm on my tongue!
(Eeeww! yuck! okay, so I'm waiting with bated breath...)
I'm rushing off for work -- way late, but what's new about that?!? -- but wanted to pass this along first. I checked with The Captain and he's given his okay -- please check out the latest story he has posted on his profile.... Ohman! My sides hurt from laughing so much! :oD
I owe, I owe ... so off to work I go... :o(
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 13 Jan 2004 23:14)
ooops! haste makes waste! http://www.flork.com/the+captain.html
>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 13 Jan 2004 23:15)
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