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It all goes back to what I've said many times, which is that suburbanite civvies can discuss aikido over a nice chardonnay all they want, they still ain't gonna have a clue when it comes down to the sharp end.
So, before we all leave for our karate classes at the mall just outside our subdivisions, let's raise our White Zinfandels in a toast to those who saw life differently BEFORE they put on a uniform.
>>By Just Jon (Thursday, 21 Apr 2005 01:15)
Crikey, almost forgot...It's 4/20...I'll (puff) get back to you (cough) soon...
>>By Just Jon (Thursday, 21 Apr 2005 01:36)
Chuck "the Iceman" Liddell wins UFC .............................Bring on Tito
>>By f-trooper bri (Thursday, 21 Apr 2005 16:20)
Is he in Mountain Troop then? Or have you posted on the wrong board? wtf?
>>By camban (Thursday, 21 Apr 2005 17:40)
Dear Cam,
I think he wasn't... But he should be as he is one tough dude, oh my god the californian sunshine its getting to me, wait its night and i'm in wales.. ok back to my hot chocolate.
>>By f-trooper bri (Friday, 22 Apr 2005 02:47)
Shameless self-promotion, part deux...New Andy McNab quiz at www.greymansland.com for the trivially-inclined.
>>By Just Jon (Friday, 22 Apr 2005 03:40)
"Halt! Who goes there?!?"
The daring do? ... or is that duo?
Ooooops!!!!!
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1580747,00.html
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 22 Apr 2005 14:26)
oh dear.... to see or to be seen, that is the question ;-)
Off quizzzing but if I fail I'll hate you Jon ;-))
>>By Lynn (Friday, 22 Apr 2005 15:08)
oh pfffffffff badged again *wipes off sweat*
I'm having a hell of a lot of trouble not to comment on question number 10, first option Jon !!! *wipes off more sweat*
sigh....
>>By Lynn (Friday, 22 Apr 2005 15:17)
Thanx to Ninj and friend and Google, we're soooooo sharp ;-))
ANDY MCNAB'S TOUGHEST MISSION
By Robert Rigby
The former SAS man’s new book is aimed at teenage boys. His co-author, Robert Rigby, explains their campaign to win over reluctant readers
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
article/0,,923-1579361,00.html
>>By Lynn (Sunday, 24 Apr 2005 00:04)
Extract Boy Soldier is on the next page:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
article/0,,923-1579361_2,00.html
And The McNab story is on page 3:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/
article/0,,923-1579361_3,00.html
"Writing for teenagers is something I’d been thinking about for some time, but I wanted to get it right; I wasn’t going to assume that because my adult fiction is successful, I could automatically write for young people. When Robert and I first met, the conversation got round to how we both were making a living as writers when neither of us had read books as kids. The fact that he had been writing mainly for children and young people — plus the fact that we both had a bit of a thing about encouraging teenagers to read — made me consider the possibility of collaborating as writers."
(...)
"Of course, I am aware that for someone like me there was the added responsibility of not glorifying the violence. We don’t do that; we try to show the horror and the real consequences of violence through believable characters caught up in a situation that could just happen. There’s nothing clever or even sensible about being a gung-ho, gunslinging, Hollywood-style hero. They’re the ones who don’t survive. Experience tells me that."
>>By Lynn (Sunday, 24 Apr 2005 00:19)
I'd like to once again thank "Lynn the Linkster" for her tireless googling. Thank God we don't have to rely on the greymansland website for up-to-date info, or we'd be talking about the upcoming publication of "Immediate Action."
Cheers, Lynn.
>>By Just Jon (Wednesday, 27 Apr 2005 13:42)
I said I wouldn't...
but when McNab says, "Forget Formula 1 - bikes are the real deal"
I just can't help myself...
"His toughest assignment yet: can Andy McNab get your sons reading?". Times article referenced above came with photo in the paper.
@SpecialForcesFiction
>>By B.A.B.E.S (Thursday, 28 Apr 2005 12:29)
Ha ha ha. Bin formula one??? For bikes???? Are you mad???
That's platform 4 for bikergirl and McNab then - as punishment you shall both write out "I am delusional, and Willliams are miles better than McLaren" 1,000 times.
Bethan.
(Sorry but McNab started it!)
>>By B.A.B.E.S (Thursday, 28 Apr 2005 14:31)
One more quick one while I'm "working" right now. Not actually read it yet myself but our government have released their legal advice re. the war in Iraq. Since its a topic that has caused some discussion on here might be interesting to some.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/
frontpage/4492439.stm
Beth part deux.
>>By B.A.B.E.S (Thursday, 28 Apr 2005 14:37)
As motor racing is another of my addictions I have to agree with Andy so far, but I am compelled to watch both; and rallying, and F3, and Indycars, and...oh dear. Well, the bikes certainly have the edge in raw excitement but this year's F1 has been good so far, especially with the Red Baron struggling a bit. And Beth, have you actually watched this year? Williams are in some trouble it seems and will be in deeper trouble when they can stop the McLarens breaking down, but I have no bias, don't care who wins so long as it isn't Ferrari!
>>By camban (Thursday, 28 Apr 2005 16:24)
If Webber kept his bleedin' car on the road we'd be two podiums up by now....
>>By B.A.B.E.S (Thursday, 28 Apr 2005 16:56)
On a down note...This may not "officially" belong here, but it should be discussed anywhere and everywhere public as it goes to show the current state of affairs here in the States. It also sort of sheds insight into civilian killings in Iraq.
The New York City pigs (I don't call all cops pigs, just these individuals) who shot unarmed "suspect" (he was guilty of "looking up and down the street," according to his murderers) Armadou Diallo 19 times (they fired 41 times, obviously crap marksmen as well as being human garbage) have been acquitted of any wrongdoing. The prosecution presented a very amateurish case against the cops--gee, wonder why. Surely it isn't because the DA's office is on the same "side" as the police. The city of New York also settled a lawsuit brought by Diallo's family for 3 million bucks--strange, if the police did nothing wrong.
More on this can be found at http://www.courttv.com/trials/diallo/verdict.html. It's funny, even the ridiculously pro-police folks at court tv can't spin the story to make the verdict look just.
This is a perfect example of what happens when we get so "patriotic" that we don't question anything the police or military do. It's always the "they have a hard job" defense, which is another way of saying, "their job is so hard, they're incapable of performing it correctly."
I wish web designers had that excuse..."Yes, the site you paid for sucks, but, you don't know what it's like to code with Notepad, therefore you've no right to question me!"
Okay, that's enough. My next post will be full of mirth and dripping with patriotic pride, promise.
>>By Just Jon (Thursday, 28 Apr 2005 17:05)
Okay, I lied. I have to add this one last bit of analysis...Hitler's SS at least used the excuse of "following orders" rather than "we're complete morons." Nowadays, though, when U.S. troops put a prisoner in a sleeping bag, with a rope around his neck, and beat him to death, the excuse is "we didn't understand the guidelines for handling prisoners."
I happen to respect soldiers, and refuse to believe that they're really that stupid. I've lots of friends in the military, and none are brain-dead enough to think that torture and fatal beatings are somehow S.O.P.
I think soldiers and cops are just as smart as the rest of us, in general, and it's important that we give them that credit and hold them to the same standards we'd hold any other rational person to.
By the way, the sleeping bag story actually happened, and, no, no one's been charged.
>>By Just Jon (Thursday, 28 Apr 2005 17:25)
Fucking right mate, having done the "extremely difficult and dangerous job" that is so often cited as a reason why troops etc should be let off for ballsing up and killing someone, I'm sick of hearing this bullshit.The challenge of being one of the good guys is that you CAN'T blow people away/torture prisoners/accidentally shoot your own people. It makes the job much harder but, on the plus side, you get to call yourself a good guy and sleep at night.
If you find this too hard though here's what you can do:
1. Become a fucking civvie. This is just as difficult and you may still make mistakes, however when you fuck up here, it just means Bob in accounts doesn`t get the numbers he asked for in tme; no-one dies and/or, you don`t end up in front of a war crimes tribunal.
2. Remain in the military/cops. Just not ours. Go to one of those countries you are so fond of citing as a reason why " you need people like me man, if it wasn't for me and my buddies you'ld all be speaking iranian/korean/chinese". Because, you're right, in these places their soldiers are positively encouraged to blow away the innocent. BUT, and here's the catch, you will now OFFICIALLY be a bad guy and that means that you will no-longer be able to swagger about telling everyone that, sure, maybe you killed a few civvies, tortured a few folks, but it was all in the name of justice and Liberty. Because now, IT ISN'T. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Fuck off scumbag you signed up for the job, you want the medals do the fucking job properly. I did 99% of the others did so you can too.
Wankers.
>>By docjay (Thursday, 28 Apr 2005 19:52)
My God, docjay must be a liberal, commie bastard. He actually believes being one of the "good guys" means being a good guy.
Where's homeland security when ya need 'em?
>>By Just Jon (Thursday, 28 Apr 2005 19:58)
Dear BABES,
Its all about stock cars. And I mean American stock cars. Forget those whiny unpassable street machines the call racing over yonder.
hahahaha,
And remember, " Rubbinsw racin, gentlemen"
So much for the guidlines, aye?
>>By Broker (Friday, 29 Apr 2005 18:50)
Broker's a Jeff Gordon fan, hehehe.
God, Broker, I'm sorry. That's not something one should joke about.
>>By Just Jon (Sunday, 1 May 2005 00:49)
A Boy Soldier review, sounds good
http://www.readingmatters.co.uk/book.php?id=267
>>By Lynn (Sunday, 1 May 2005 15:30)
Boy Soldier IS good--I'm not sure I would have known it was specifically aimed at young adults had I not been told that in advance. Then again, I've the mind of a 16-year-old, so that might help.
Now, if we can just get some copies of "Aggressor..."
>>By Just Jon (Monday, 2 May 2005 13:16)
Mr. JJ(Just Jon)
Thats JJJJUUUUIIIIIINNNNOOOOORRRRRR!!!!! to you!
The Budweiser #8
The 24 PLEASE
>>By Broker (Monday, 2 May 2005 23:45)
"At the recent Index on Censorship Freedom of Expression Awards, Hari Kunzru won an auction to have the villain in Andy McNab's new novel named after him. While McNab is tight-lipped on the plot of the new thriller, Aggressor, which is due out in November, it is safe to say that pitted against McNab's hero, Nick Stone, the outcome is unlikely to be a happy one for Mr Kunzru."
Darn, I would have like to have a character named Lynn in one of his books. Hehe, well.. ok - I have. But he's BALD !!
Great name for a villain though... Hari Kunzru.... can't top that.
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 3 May 2005 14:46)
<<Great name for a villain though... Hari Kunzru.... can't top that.>>
HAHAHAHA.... that's even better than the gem I found today (thanks to you, Lynn, my muse, I checked the databases again after a long hiatus)
Check this out.....
<<McNab recently had his DNA tested. He didn't want to trace his biological parents, still doesn't. He just wanted some idea of his roots. The results came as a surprise. He was part Native American. "It was probably Wild Bill Hickok's show coming through town," says McNab. Naturally, he's started working the angles. "If you're a Native American you can claim that your kids are an ethnic minority and get fast-streamed into an American university. So my daughter is probably going to go to college in San Diego." McNab looks me right in the eye and manages to keep a straight face as he says, "We're persecuted, us Native Americans.">>
That's from an article in the May 1, 2005 issue of the Sunday Telegraph.
>>By Majorette (Tuesday, 3 May 2005 16:53)
'manages to keep a straight face' - hey, if you can talk about the Teletubbies seriously... this would be a piece of cake
:-)))
Great Maj, thanx
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 3 May 2005 19:20)
<<<McNab looks me right in the eye and manages to keep a straight face as he says, "We're persecuted, us Native Americans." (majorette)>>>
We Americans fall prey to this nonsense all the time. We want to be everything to everybody---thus pleasing no one!!!
Pardon me for barging in on this board!!
>>By lv2read (Tuesday, 3 May 2005 21:56)
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