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Apparently we dropped the ball with readit... Why didn't we jump at the chance to have a "platonic date" with such an excellent male specimen while he was in our own backyard? (Can't speak for you, J, but as for me, my reasons had to do with not wanting my throat slit...)
Gee, readit, we thought we were doing you a favor. Afterall, you "can't be assed with gnooks McNab board girlies any more. " If you can't stand us online, why on Earth would you want to spend time with us in the flesh?
>>By Majorette (Thursday, 20 May 2004 22:11)
Readit, no bottling out here. Next time you're in the DC vicinity let me know. I'll give you (a) bottle, but won't guarantee breakfast....
>>By Jiffer (Thursday, 20 May 2004 22:14)
LOL! Excellent cross-posting, Maj!
>>By Jiffer (Thursday, 20 May 2004 22:16)
Wow readit, your cellphone bill? Must not call those expensive numbers too much ;o)
Serious. I do voice chat. But I could not do that to you sweety, my sultry voice is too much to handle, too much of a challenge. You should have taken the text chat, much safer :o)
>>By Lynn (Friday, 21 May 2004 00:38)
Tsk tsk, girls... You are too bad! ;-)
>>By Dare (Friday, 21 May 2004 04:10)
Found it, Camban!
This is the third book I was trying to remember about women involved in covert/SF ops. I was wrong (nothing new in that!) about the SAS aspect...
Courtesy of Ortlieb (pg 58):
<< 'The Women Who Lived for Danger: The Women Agents of SOE in the Second World War' by Marcus Binney.
Synopsis
In World War II, 37 women were dropped in occupied France to work as Special Operations Executive agents and "set Europe ablaze". 13 never returned. They were executed in Hitler's concentration camps. This is the story of eight of these female agents, all from civilian life, who were warned of the likelihood of arrest, torture and a brutal death before they volunteered. None demurred. The women were given months of arduous fitness, gun, explosives, endurance and code training before parachuting into occupied territory. But this story also contains eight very personal tales. Why did these women volunteer? Where did they come from? Marcus Binney tells of a life of resistance work and undercover operations, clandestine activities and even armed combat, and a constant fear of discovery. But above all this book tells of extreme bravery and devotion to duty.
>>By ortlieb (Wednesday, 16 Jul 2003 08:16) >>
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 21 May 2004 15:44)
Sounds like a good book aib, I knew a man, Ken Knill, who was parachuted into the middle of Germany in WW2, spent the war alone and living like a tramp, sending intel back to UK; sounds similar. May get round to reading it in a few years! Is it written first person I wonder. No, can't be, just read the author's name! Don't know any female Marcuses.
They still haven't given me back my missing message you know.
This board seems ignored now that the chat room is there. Shame really. Can have more considered discussions but nobody answers questions anyway.
Anyone read Jackie George's then? She Who Dared.
>>By camban (Friday, 21 May 2004 16:40)
By the way, noticed that aib was the third ever poster on this site, whip round for a long service medal anyone?
>>By camban (Friday, 21 May 2004 16:42)
I would if I could Camban, I just don't have the answers to your questions...
Long service hehe, it's called a mission...
>>By Lynn (Friday, 21 May 2004 17:18)
Dare, I can't speak for all the other females on this board, but from time to time, I like being bad !! ;)
>>By Ninjawoman (Friday, 21 May 2004 21:26)
Oh, yes! No issues there, NW! Just pointing it out... in case anyone didn't notice! ;-)
But remember ladies, Safety First! ;-)
>>By Dare (Saturday, 22 May 2004 03:16)
Sex phone lines? Live chat with bored lard-assed housewives pretending to be sex kittens?
Give me a break girls. Evidence of longterm posters time spent on butts messaging and chatting nabby all day gives a bloody hellish picture of broadbeamed F Troopers chanting McNab McNab McNab. Nabby could do without this place. It's the worst cringe worthy long-term publicity stunt ever.
Sharpen your knives girls. Received this from buddy this morning.
Snipit on Ryan's The Increment - the wise man glad he's virtually non-existant at gnooks.
copied as reads from publisher:
Britain's premier military thriller writer and decorated ex-SAS man, Chris Ryan, delivers another explosive instalment in the exhilarating Matt Browning series. Here, our hero finds himself up against a very dark and powerful force...
The Increment are the SAS's secret killing squad. They operate in the murky shadows between the Regiment, MI5, MI6, and the Home and Foreign offices. They don't do murder. They do assassinations. And, they're exterminating ex-soldiers, especially ones who know too much - like Matt Browning.
Chris Ryan's latest gut-wrenching international adventure is guaranteed to dazzle every one of his existing fans. In fact, it's quite likely to recruit a whole army of new admirers.
"Hard as Nails" Daily Mirror review.
Bad luck ,Mirror heads rolled without blood.
[Give me the short straw on trash-scribers - any day!]
>>By readit (Saturday, 22 May 2004 10:39)
Sex phone lines? Live chat with bored lard-assed housewives pretending to be sex kittens?
LOL, you're so predictable Readit - we made a bet about your answer, now lets see who won with predicting the most exact words. Not gonna tell you what the price is but it's definitely not a date with you.
(new bet guys !!)
>>By Lynn (Saturday, 22 May 2004 12:03)
Bugger the words it's the action that counts?
Watch the preview of Monaco Grand Prix tomorrow ITV 1.
I knows I's on it because camera were pointing right at me. Look for handsome fella leaning over deck rail well known celeb at elbow.
What's with this sentence, Lynn. "Not gonna tell you what the price is but it's definitely not a date with you." Aw, you gone off me now, eh?
Get real. You couldn't afford me.
LOL, I know what you meant tho. Predictable? nah, that's just sour grapes repeating on too much Slimfast.
cheerio chubby cheeks
>>By readit (Saturday, 22 May 2004 16:22)
<< I knows I's on it because camera were pointing right at me. Look for handsome fella leaning over deck rail well known celeb at elbow. >>
Errr... but who's gonna be wearing the blackout eye beam, Readit? You or the celeb?
>>By am-i-binned (Saturday, 22 May 2004 16:53)
Hey you in Montecarlo there !!
Seeya at Jimmie'z!
Watch out for stunning brunette (moi) (not fat larded arse) with pink Versace dress and italian hub, Briatore etc...
<well known celeb at elbow> either he's a dwarf or you look like André the Giant
end of posting from me for some time now, gonna get myself some tan on luxury yacht from I know who......
>>By borisette (Saturday, 22 May 2004 16:58)
slimfast, cannot afford, gone off yeah yeah, whatever makes you feel good R. /out
>>By Lynn (Saturday, 22 May 2004 18:03)
I have just returned from a visit to DC and surrounds. Didn't realise an ole geezer like me could excite such interest. This wont be long as i'm jet lagged and also depressed after spending so much time listening to un/ill informed Americans, both military and the average "joe" in the street.
NBS television program last night ran this story, The Pentagon's inspector general is investigating charges that the military's elite Delta Force abused Iraqi prisoners far more seriously than anything known at Abu Ghraib, including threatening them with drowning and suffocation, NBC News reported last night.
NBC reported that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld knew about the Delta Force's operation and directed U.S. military officials to bring some of the methods to prisons like Abu Ghraib. The network cited "several top U.S. military and intelligence sources."
And to help with the questions about my sobriety and mental health :
1 despite rumours to the contrary I dont over indulge on grape juice or scottish nectar. Used to in my 20 s and 30s, now it is purely medicinal and social
2 I have been in the military since leaving Manchester University, early 70s
3 I passed selection (Rupert) back in the 70s, did one tour, then because of my speciality (law) I was dragged back to the "real world"
4 I found Hereford very interesting, on my frequent visits back I find it to have changed beyond all recognition, not just new venue, but a very ugly subculture there now, gone are the days of some idea of decency.
5 I now travel the world trying to clean the sh*t off the fan, or sometimes off those who find themselves covered in the stuff, not always a job I enjoy.
6 I have a brain of my own, gets me into hot water very often, but I only have a couple of years to go, and because I stayed on after I should have gone, there is nothing the buggers can really do.
and as this is a McGrab discussion board I will add that he has contributed a lot to the ugly subculture I mentioned earlier
>>By barkingbob (Saturday, 22 May 2004 20:09)
Readit, it makes me wonder why you are here when you would have this celeb at your elbow? Or were you the guy serving the drinks ????
>>By Ninjawoman (Saturday, 22 May 2004 22:01)
You don't know readit Ninja. Andy "serving" drinks? What, on his own gin palace...
I'm amazed how those not from the same mould have missed the clues I've bombarded you with as to who Andy/Andre is...How many times have I repeated the words SAS/SBS men lie through their teeth, and convincingly enough to fool intelligence interrogators let alone women hooked on all things special forces and seemingly talking out of their hats, not to mention manhead in skirts! How in hell do you suppose A got that ocean going cruiser? He's a goddamned bestselling writer with screen plays tacked on for secret measure!!!!! You know something, F-Troop was never more fittingly applied to the cause/mission of this board. Good job you see the funny side of that, too, don't you think, or you might get a bit of a self-conscious complex that everyone else is laughing at you!!!
And guess what - readit laughed his socks off this morning on "predictable is as predictable does" ... Namely, you can't hack anyone smarter than the united force of Andy McNab message board pop-ups: who see, speak, and hear only the one voice... "Mirror mirror on the wall, who is the sickest, saddest, bravest of all?"
Damn it all, you challenged, readit responded...Who else is there who can independantly pick up a gauntlet thrown on this board?
AM has hardly been mentioned for umpteen pages, that is in the sense of anything relevant beyond the usual of "bees knees" and "we love Andy". Can't anyone come up with new lines? Even an obviously jaded subject matter "can" be sparked to set a trail of interesting fire power with tail-end tangents worthy of merit...
Maybe less patting of back and spit power (self-agrandisement) could go amiss - it's all looking a tad too orchestrated and for some reason the choreography has fallen way out of step...Ha ha, maybe it's all the conductors fault - the orchestra off beat...Ah well, I've seen ballet dancing to highland pipes enacted by SFOs with the right top up and heaps of encouragement, but never seen 'em tiptoeing to Mozart or Pucini...
I think it fair to say the chance of any SFOs staying around here and attempting to post their viewpoint gets more unlikely with every new *female* voice that trumps the F-Troop "hate men" hymn...
buddy ;-)
>>By devonwren (Sunday, 23 May 2004 02:06)
<< He's a goddamned bestselling writer >>
Readit, would you like your own gnooks author's forum?
>>By am-i-binned (Sunday, 23 May 2004 06:31)
Take off your gold embossed blinkers, AIB, and take a good look through the gnooks garden...
It takes a dedicated gardener to cultivate a prize winning patch, and for that you hold the champion cup. The time and effort put into your prized posession deserves recognition and I would say you're getting that, in more ways than one - some good feedback some poor, but that's life, and if blinkered you won't notice ominous thunder clouds on the horizon.
With all this glorious weather maybe you should think of whipping up a real garden party before the dowpour! Come on now, what's a few hundred/thousand miles between friends. Paris, Venice, even New York or London would make for a good venue. Gee, you're slacking on getting dedicated AM fans together real-time.. Both my daughter and I have jetted/boated/driven off to mass meetings with pals from overseas...In fact the kids went for a Venice Carnival shin-dig and had the time of their lives...
>>By devonwren (Sunday, 23 May 2004 10:22)
meant to say: You're never too old to live for today and to hell with tomorrow...
Them blinkers look awfully like gold hotpants... ;-)
>>By devonwren (Sunday, 23 May 2004 10:26)
Oh wow a bestselling writer, quick quick let me take back all my words. Hope he's filthy rich and extremely happy Dev. It's his "hate F Troop women" hymn that's a little less charming.
>>By Lynn (Sunday, 23 May 2004 10:29)
One more thing Dev, you see - this has been bothering me for a long time and don't get it, I really don't and I'm wondering what your psychology tells you about that.
In you defence post (readit needed that??) you're asking us how the h*ll we can treat R like that, don't we know he's 'goddamn 'bestselling writer' - SO WHAT? Does being a bestselling writer, having his own gin bar and heaven knows what more wealth he's got - does it make him a better person than us? Does it give him the right to look down on us? Cause that sure is how it feels like. Does he need to look down on us? Does he need to tell us we're nothing but fat arsed bored women?? And that makes us bad people? Why Dev? I don't understand.
>>By Lynn (Sunday, 23 May 2004 10:41)
Never mind dev, I don't even think I'm interested in the answer anymore.
>>By Lynn (Sunday, 23 May 2004 11:49)
Ok did my bit of recce and what do i find?? Readit has on his Flork page, " I can't be assed with Gnooks McNab board girlies any more." LMAO !! Why... oh why does he keep coming back for more ?? ROTFLMAO * btw that takes care of my lard ass for the day ;) *
>>By Ninjawoman (Sunday, 23 May 2004 12:34)
Pg 127, 5th post from the bottom, courtesy of Readit:
<< What I wanted to say was how you all got buddy wrong. Entrapment was buddy's forte. >>
Brilliant insight. And the truth. For once.
>>By am-i-binned (Sunday, 23 May 2004 12:39)
AIB:
See what I mean about your dedication and firepower: <Pg 127 quote
Bet you can't quote from the bible pg for pg, hee hee...Then again, maybe you can if you have/find a copy on CD/Internet. <cntrl -F keys >
Lynn: psychology. One only has to look at how F-Troop spittle showers a poster who takes a stance on truth as opposed to fiction.
Like I've said before, I'll defend all Brit SFO boys on what is carried out in the name of duties to reg/squad, and I still maintain there is no pleasure that I can see in saying one ex SFO writer (namely Andy McNab/Chris Ryan) is a better writer or better person than the other. Unfortunately, there are numorous hit-man statements on the Andy McNab board sleighting CR about his outspoken coments in TOTGA, something he was ashamed of saying and duly apologised for. In real-time truth on the mean streets of Hereford: the defending flak for Vince soon shifted directive projectory from CR, though retribution on his head had already been delivered and no amount of back slapping apology can ever wipe out hurt felt: 100%...AM admitted a sense of guilt, so too Coburn, but taking all things in to account (the mission) and CR's escape, has it ever occurred to any of you that CR was suffering PTSD, and when in that frame of mind all sorts of things will out that are regretted later upon sane reflections? And, let's be honest it's been said often enough here that Army psychologists attitude to PTSD can prove detrimental to military careers, and admittance of anything *wrong* best kept under wraps...
Admittedly, of late CR has been spared flak from AM fans and it doesn't take a genius to see that since Coburn's book surfaced this board has lost a lot of its former firepower. I won't go into the psychology of that, either...No need...Having said that, AM has not changed, he's still the same person, his writing is still pretty much the same (first-person narrative). OK, so CR experimented with third-person narrative and feels comfortable with both forms of narration: sex scenes still crap!. AM felt uncomfortable outside of his own head: in respect of reflecting/broadening his scope of thinking as other character/s! But. when push comes to shove, they both churn out good fiction...The only recognisable difference in AM's writing is that humour slacked off post Crisis Four book - good or bad?= matter of personal taste. Personally, I missed the humour: a lot, and professionally sensed he'd lost something along the way...
re readit, Lynn: Does wealth and riches bring happiness? If you're not of a happy disposition per se (circumstances permitting) you can buy the glossy image of happiness or snort/inject highs and grin your way through insider dilemma', same way criminal junkies do, and of course wealth provides rich trappings unlike street trading junkies thieving for their next down payment...
That said, what is going on in your head is the all important factor: genuine peace and happiness, suicidal angst, or seeming lost in traffic of other peoples desires? It's tough being rich without a soul or true haven of natural inner tranquility!
>>By devonwren (Monday, 24 May 2004 10:44)
When I say it's tough being rich, I was referring to instant celeb wealth, not those born with silver spoon in mouth. That's not to say many of those are barmey - not on this planet!
>>By devonwren (Monday, 24 May 2004 10:49)
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