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Crappy columns.
>>By spiketheprovo (Saturday, 6 Aug 2005 00:49)
Knock knock, yes sorry. Me back.
London: Osama bin Laden’s top henchman yesterday threatened more terror attacks in Britain.
But the al-Qaeda thug was promptly told, “Get back in your cave — you don’t frighten us!”
Ayman al-Zawahiri appeared on a video with an AK47 rifle at his side — promising further death and destruction in the wake of the London bombings.
His blustering rant was dismissed with contempt by SAS hero Andy McNab.
Full article on:
http://web.mid-day.com/news/world/
2005/august/115630.htm
So it's crappy colums huh, well I'll start reading them anyway. Lisle was so kind to collect them - they're on the Yahoo AMFTroop site.
Maybe she likes to post them here too - the links that is but as the 'reviews' aren't good so far, maybe not.
>>By Lynn (Saturday, 6 Aug 2005 22:24)
I, too, appreciate Lisle posting the columns. I even enjoy reading them to some extent, in the same way I'd be curious to read anything McNab wrote. He probably just doesn't take much time with the columns, since, as Spike said, it is The Sun after all.
I followed Lynn's link above and fervently hope Andy's "keep your rifle handy" comment doesn't prove to be as ironic as George Bush's "bring 'em on!" has.
>>By Just Jon (Sunday, 7 Aug 2005 09:03)
hear hear Lisle! Just finished all the columns too. Thanks for the work.it helps us lazy people. Kinda like getting a free research.
I do like Andys perspective. Very straight forward facts. Almost refreashing compard to the BS news in the states. Yes I mean Bull s$%. So thanks L!!!! \
Now Lynn is back from a long break and she will be on the google pad too.
AND JON, WHATS RANDY MCFAB BEEN DOING?
>>By Broker (Sunday, 7 Aug 2005 17:50)
New mcfab content now at www.randymcfab.com, do not go to mcfab.blogspot.com as that's no longer updated.
Re: Andy McNab, major website re-structuring ongoing, as always any suggestions for what an Andy McNab website should offer are desperately welcome and warmly needed. I'm currently updating a pro site, but should have time to finish up new greymansland soon, so speak now or be stuck with whatever I decide to throw in.
Note--I do not criticize Andy McNab, the military, the war in Iraq, etc, on grey man's land, so no worries.
>>By Just Jon (Monday, 8 Aug 2005 07:54)
Hi all,
I'm happy to report the cloning procedure is complete and I have successfully introduced a mini-majorette into this world. Like most women, she's high maintenance right now (ha ha), but she's starting to mellow out a bit and slowly but surely I'm catching up on some much needed sleep (and even some online time! yeah!) Sorry I've been out of sight lately, but it hasn't been by choice.
The long hours of rocking a baby to sleep (10 times a day) have allowed me to catch up on my reading, too. I finally finished Chris Ryan's Tenth Man Down and am re-starting Soldier Five with the intent of actually finishing it this time. After that, I'll be looking for some more reading material (Camban- your book reviews are a treasure trove). Any other recommendations?
What is everybody reading at the moment?
>>By Majorette (Wednesday, 10 Aug 2005 15:32)
Congrats on the cloning bit Maj, hope it all went well. Nice to see that you have time for reading and catching up, try taking a look at the Duncan Falconer site on Gnooks here .. found a link ( thank you Lynn ) that enables you to see and hear the author for atleast 1.38 sec. And after this shameless plug for the new duncan Falconer book I can tell you that I have been reading an Golden Oldie, Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice...
Please no tar and feathers again ..... I beg you!!
>>By Ninjawoman (Wednesday, 10 Aug 2005 16:35)
Congrets Maj!!!!! Very happy for you :-)
>>By Lynn (Wednesday, 10 Aug 2005 18:39)
Welcome back Maj, confibulations to you and your new sprog, Majorette-ette? And thanks for the plug, glad to be of service. If you want to see the newest reviews, instead of ploughing (plowing) through 200+, just type in the month and year: 08/05 for example. There are a number of authors out there who write in a McNab style and content but who have not walked the walk, just know people who have.
>>By camban (Thursday, 11 Aug 2005 11:46)
Another shameless plug, new newsletter from DF on the familiar place.
>>By Ninjawoman (Tuesday, 16 Aug 2005 21:21)
"The cloning procedure is complete"--what a line! Fantastic!
I have read this message board for some months, but only now have managed to arrange a Flork account. I hope to join the discussion....
>>By FearsomeTab (Wednesday, 17 Aug 2005 13:47)
Thanks, everyone, for the well-wishes.
And welcome FearsomeTab! I like your profile pic- I used to work there many, many moons ago. (Get it? Moons..... the Lunar Lander.... hahaha)
Anyway, Ninj you should be happy, I finally caved and purchased two Duncan Falconer books the other day. Apparently he's doing something right as they were available here in the US. Can't wait to get started on them if his newsletters are any indication of his writing ability.
>>By Majorette (Wednesday, 17 Aug 2005 16:03)
Enjoy Maj, if you like it as much as I do ... ( Sorry Mr McNab )
>>By Ninjawoman (Wednesday, 17 Aug 2005 19:48)
16 July 2005
Being realistic - like the SAS
(....)
Radio London interviewed an expert a day after the bombings in London. He said that the terrorists were probably quite intelligent, which was why they hadn't been detected, and, because they were probably intelligent, they wouldn't think they could change our society; it was about retribution.
Were these the views of some left-wing academic ? No, the views of ex-SAS man Andy McNab (not his real name).
LIKE THE SAS WE NEED TO KNOW THE FACTS
He didn't give the usual government line because the SAS know that their lives depend on understanding the FACTS about those they are pitted against. They cannot afford to underestimate them, just as they and the security services in general couldn't afford to underestimate the IRA. Hence McNab doesn't dismiss them as crazy fanatics, i.e. the Blair line, but says they are probably quite intelligent, which is not to approve of them, Hitler was quite intelligent.
http://werenotfooled.blogspot.com/2005_07_01_
werenotfooled_archive.html
>>By Lynn (Sunday, 21 Aug 2005 18:02)
Hey guys & Chicks...
Long time no post, and honestly I didn't even read all what's written up there, a little eeny bit too much for moi!
Anyway, I'm just wondering: does Mr Andy, or writers in general, know if their books have been translated accordingly to what THEY -authors- have written? If there are any doubts, cannot they do something about it, like hire someone to read the translated version?
I've read almost all His books at first in italian and then re-read 'em in english; almost all are done correctly, except for "Immediate Action" where the translator has added some of his ideas. I don't find this a correct way to do a job, especially when certain added stuffs are quite debatable, like: "Terzo Mondo, vaffanculo!", that is "Third World, f*ck off!".
Unless I'm wrong, in the english version I didn't find this. Perhaps in an older one? Naaaaaah...
The translator is Sergio Altieri.
Cheerios.
>>By Deusrexmachina (Sunday, 21 Aug 2005 22:05)
Hehehe Deusrexmachina. That is like... some guy beat me up today. Are you gonna let that happen? The name of the guy is xxx and he lives..xxx
But seriously.. boy was I pissed to find the Dutch RC had 4 pages missing. No idea how that works but I suppose the publishing house decides how and what. BUT.. someone told me today the author has some say in matters too (but that was about another author, so I won't post it here)
It would be nice to learn more about this. Maybe someone reading has some knowledge about this and wants to fill us in.
>>By Lynn (Sunday, 21 Aug 2005 22:17)
Erm .. Lynnie .. sweetie... you are usually on the mark, but not in this area. A little writting birdie told me that most publishers need to do some of their own tinkering on the manuscript before it is a book.
To me that sounds a bit like, after working long nad hard on making this manuscript, give the baby to us, you will see it back but only once it will be published. Or having a driverslicense...
>>By Ninjawoman (Sunday, 21 Aug 2005 22:35)
... you can look up -or down- for Sergio Altieri in Google... Not that he's a stranger anyway.
What I don't like is when someone else modifies another's work. I won't enjoy the idea, also 'cause there could be conseguences for nothing. I mean, saying "Terzo Mondo: vaffanculo" is STRICTLY personal. The translator -WHOEVER it is- should say "Hey, that's my idea, not the author's!" in a note in the last page, or something like that, and not to use someone else's story as a train for your own point of view.
>>By Deusrexmachina (Sunday, 21 Aug 2005 22:41)
Ah Ninj.. I misunderstood you earlier..obviously.
Thanx for setting that straight.
I agree with you Deusrexmachina, you create it the best you can, lot of blood, sweat 'n' tears and then it's out of your hands... yuk.
>>By Lynn (Sunday, 21 Aug 2005 22:55)
PS Ninj.. a drivers licence?? Like in.... it's 18 years old?
>>By Lynn (Sunday, 21 Aug 2005 23:17)
Uhhuhh??
Dumbledore's death in the style of Andy McNab
Wednesday July 6, 2005
Harry threw the remains of his cake down his neck - he'd probably not get any more sustenance for at least a week, but he was well used to the deprivation.
Full article
http://books.guardian.co.uk/harrypotter/story/
0,10761,1522490,00.html#article_continue
>>By Lynn (Monday, 22 Aug 2005 09:47)
Hmm, I think "Third World, fuck off" is a pretty accurate description of the attitude necessary to achieve success in the SAS. Andy, who worked with RWW, surely subscribes to the theory that it's okay to meddle in the affairs of nations who can't afford an SAS and the various other military toys that the U.S. and U.K. can. In fact, if anyone cares to actually look at RWW and then at the conventional definition of "terrorism," I think you'll find that ol' Andy has more in common with OBL than he does, say, Sergeant York. "Third World, fuck off" pretty much sums up the prevailing politcal opinions in the U.S. and U.K., and since McNab willingly and proudly acted as an armed enforcer for this policy, I don't think he'd be offended by the translation. I commend the translator, who was probably injecting some much-needed moral clarity into the book.
Note--I've no personal interest in morality. If bad, dangerous guys keep me safe, so be it. I'm simply willing to admit that I'd rather be safe than right.
>>By Just Jon (Monday, 22 Aug 2005 19:52)
Very unfair and seriously inaccurate Jon. You must be aware of the 'hearts and minds' policy followed by the SAS since the beginning? Every campaign undertaken by the Regiment includes an essential element, that of bringing the locals on-side by education, medical care, even veterinary services in some cases. The whole point of the majority of SAS activity has been to enable the oppressed to defeat the oppressors, there is ample discussion of this in every biography. Of course they will defend themselves and others with lethal force, but only ever as a last resort, you must know that? Having just read the biog of Colonel Tim Collins, ex SAS and a senior commander in GW2, it is abundantly clear that the objective of the British forces was to bring the local population on side by helping them, not by killing them; helping them to help themselves. This approach was initially very successful but has been swamped by the evil intent of others with their own agendas, including sadly, the activities of some of the allied forces.
>>By camban (Wednesday, 24 Aug 2005 11:29)
Cam, your argument supposes that we are always correct in deciding who the "oppressed" and who the "oppressors" are. Seeing as how we (the U.S. and U.K.) have in the past supported Saddam Hussein, OBL and the Mujahadeen, and various other bloodthirsty weirdos, is it really a great idea for us to start civil wars and/or teach insurgents how to blow stuff up? The SAS helped train Pol Pot's people, for instance, and here in the U.S. we had the infamous "School of the Americas" in which Special Forces were heavily involved. My comments were specifically aimed at RWW and its primary mission, meddling in the internal affairs of other countries. I in no way meant to imply that the SAS targets civilians, or that we don't try to get the locals over to our side whenever possible.
Btw, which allied forces had evil intent?
>>By Just Jon (Wednesday, 24 Aug 2005 14:07)
Fair points Jon, though I was thinking on the lower levels of people involved, not the principals. If you look at the last sentence again 'the evil intent of others' refers of course to the insurgents and various home grown crazies. The 'allied forces' mention, clumsily tacked on, refers to those soldiers who have been charged with prisoner abuse and the like, but of course there is a much deeper debate to be had about that. I was also thinking of incompetent officers. To get the full flavour of the inside story of GW2 I must recommend Tim Collins' book 'Rules of Engagement' it really is excellent, funny, and honest. Contains an authentic 'Walt' story too, though not so funny when the outcome arguably ruined his career.
>>By camban (Wednesday, 24 Aug 2005 16:35)
A pic of Andy ya'll might not have seen:
http://www.gardners.com/halloffame/
New%20Hall%20Of%20Fame/
Author%20Biogs/AndyMcNab.htm
(I assume everyone realizes the url is one line)
>>By Just Jon (Thursday, 25 Aug 2005 19:27)
DANG! Nice find, Jon!!! :oD
>>By am-i-binned (Saturday, 27 Aug 2005 15:12)
Very Jon!!! Now when do we get to 250?? I'm in the mood for a party!
>>By Lynn (Saturday, 27 Aug 2005 19:03)
I hoped the pic would help make up for my occassional diatribes : )
250 or bust!
>>By Just Jon (Saturday, 27 Aug 2005 20:33)
Terrorists are idiots, and here's some proof: I've long said that, were I intent on hurting the U.S., I'd simply park myself in New Orleans, wait for a hurricane, and blow the pumping stations (New Orleans is entirely below sea level and relies on levees and pumps to avoid becoming a swimming pool). As hurricane Katrina approached Florida, I was reminded of this and thought of it as a "ten year plan," meaning one may have to wait ten years or more, but eventually the hurricane would come. You could kill 10k+ by waiting for the right weather and blowing the pumps (even more if you have the means to take out some levees), and yet the terrorists instead take out humvees with IEDs and shoot inaccurate ordinance at warships no one's heard of. The hurricane has arrived, and the terrorists aren't prepared. Their lack of patience and forethought is amazing, and comforting of course--though I'm a little disappointed in my fellow man's lack of ingenuity.
I don't know about the rest of ya'll, but I'm not afraid of anyone dumber than me (yeah, I know, I must live in constant fear, smartass).
Strikes me as strange, that "the terrorists" are such a huge threat, but haven't accomplished anything since 9/11. They should hire consultants.
>>By Just Jon (Sunday, 28 Aug 2005 13:35)
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