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>>By solid-shot (Wednesday, 17 Mar 2004 22:51)
Nope, it's not just you! ;-)
I just finished IA and laughed out loud more than any other book.... except for Princess Bride. But, it's hard to beat pirates, albinos, giants, sword fighters, true love, revenge.... and the best damn line of all time. "Hello! My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!" Now if Andy could have figured a way to get that line into IA, it would have put it over the top.
;-)
>>By Dare (Thursday, 18 Mar 2004 00:16)
LOL LYNN!!!
The transvestite thing.... ROFL!!!
*wipes eyes and catches breath* Oh heavens!!!.... I can see how a young man could make that mistake. I'd forgotten these stories and your little exercise in logic brought it all back, Lynn.
A young sailor at our command on Guam had an experience with an Asian transvestite. He was at a bar talking to this gorgeous Asian "girl", buying her drinks, even took a nice photo of her sitting there at the bar. He didn't discover till he hitched a ride back to base and in full view of the Marine gate guards, had to escape "her" evil clutches.... literally, realising "she" had parts that weren't supposed to be there. He couldn't go through a gate on that base for months without hearing "Nikki, come back!" from the guards.
Having seen that photo, I can understand his initial confusion and alcohol took care of the rest, I'm sure. "She" was gorgeous! Male or female, that was one beautiful specimen.
I know that doesn't help with the "undercover" thing but still made me LOL :-D
>>By Dare (Thursday, 18 Mar 2004 00:36)
Following on from Dare's post...happens all the time...
"Man, something's up!"
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/
0,,2001320029-2004120371,00.html
Definitely undercover...
>>By bikergirl (Thursday, 18 Mar 2004 10:50)
So has there been any news about NS movie? Haven't seen anything here but you guys in Europe hear stuff we don't.
Dominic West, Robert Carlyle, Sean Bean or Dougray Scott would be good in the part.
http://www.dominic-west.com
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~blinda/hmcarlyl.htm
http://www.compleatseanbean.com/
http://www.dougrayscottinfocus.com/
Something I was looking for was the ability to play a good "grey man". Attractive but not so much so that they grab attention. Ability to convincingly portray harmless as well as menacing and lethal capability. AND they have to have humour and a little "cuddle" factor too, ie. flashes of vulnerability.
Casting would be a fun job. ;-)
>>By Dare (Thursday, 18 Mar 2004 17:29)
By the way, welcome to the board solid-shot!
I've read all of his books too. IA is great, one of the best books I've read. AM's style is really entertaining and readable. I loved Remote Control, Firewall, Last Light, Liberation Day and Dark Winter. Especially RC and LD (the interaction between NS, Lotfi and Hubba-hubba is great). Crisis Four isn't one of my favorites but that's because I don't like Sarah.
>>By Dare (Thursday, 18 Mar 2004 18:51)
Not sure if these sites have been listed here before, but thought I'd share them, just in case. Specifically sites about SAS/mil.
http://www.combat-online.com/special.htm
http://www.mi5.gov.uk/
http://www.specialforces.co.uk/home.htm
Anyway, hope they are of interest to AM/CR/DF etc. fans. :)
>>By Dare (Friday, 19 Mar 2004 05:21)
Mr Mole...didn't you do this before? Start an AM book and then ask whether to carry on? With LD perhaps? You lose heart too easily. Besides, you're asking a partisan crowd here...
Of course, you should carry on...that's generally the way to find out what the rest is like!!
Dare...excellent choice for NS in Dougray Scott. Robert Carlyle more suited (in terms of physical stature) to playing AM, methinks...
Now, Tom Berenger in anything...
Works for me...
Take it whichever way you like ;)
>>By bikergirl (Friday, 19 Mar 2004 11:39)
Yeah Tom Berenger, but he'd have to go on a diet.....saw him in some recent movie (can't remember the title) and the guy's got a double chin coming up, ......now who does that remind me off.....??
But looking at movies from Miramax, can't see any about Andy Mcnab's books coming up, so I wonder if there ever will be a movie made from his books. And then why do a movie about the fiction books, how about the non.ficiton one IA, that would be interesting.
>>By borisette (Friday, 19 Mar 2004 12:58)
Tom Berenger a gorgeous 54 years old, so he's entitled to a little double chin. ;-)
Such a good actor though. Plays everything from stoic hero, psycho villain and can't forget the "confident heterosexual, good-guy, sheriff".... LOL One of my favorites! I can't see him as NS though. Not sure he can pull of a convincing English accent, much less a South London one. OF course that isn't a necessity.
I liked Dougray Scott in Reign of Fire, esp. when they did the SW's play for the kids. LOL Great stuff!
But I still like Dominic West for NS. He's got rough attractiveness. He can even act! :-D
Anyway, I want the job of casting director for the movie. Or even assistant casting director. How does a person go about getting a job like that?
>>By Dare (Friday, 19 Mar 2004 18:06)
Hello guys and gals (the latter being the predominant recipients for obvious reasons) !
Just come back from a joint NATO-excercise, but there wasn't all that many posts/pages to catch up with. *Tsk, tsk* You're starting to slip my friends! :)
Anywho... being in a "green" environment for more than 1,5 weeks in a stretch has brought back the military itch. I've applied for a 1 year stint in the Norwegian Army. Not the worst place to be to acquire 9mm ammo for field-trips to the shooting-range. ;)
See you guys later.
Btw: I've ordered Soldier Five, Fighting Fit and "As Far as my Feet will carry me", so I'll be doing some extensive reading in the future I suspect.
>>By ortlieb (Friday, 19 Mar 2004 21:15)
In a live Chat (March '03) with AM I asked: When told you "were expendible" don't you get a slap in the face even though a soldier knows he can die?
Andy McNab: "No. I volunteered and it's very simple in the SAS... if you disagree with what you are doing .. get out.... I never did disagree."
In the Scotsman article (posted by AIB on the Coburn board) question to Coburn: "But aren’t you supposed to be expendable? Isn’t that the law of the Special Forces? "There’s always an element that you may have to sort out yourself in the end," he replies, "but for people to turn back at headquarters and say they’re not even going to try anyway, well that’s just not acceptable in any way, shape or form. If you’re going to put people in harm’s way, you’ve got a duty to do your utmost to get them back. And if you’re not, you’ve got to tell them."
>>By Lynn (Friday, 19 Mar 2004 23:52)
Welcome back Ortie!!! *big hugs* Glad things went well and you had a good time! Good plan for acquiring 9mm ammo. ;-) Look forward to seeing you about!
Lynn-- That's pretty cool, about the live chat! Where was this?
I can understand about the expendable bit. From both sides. Soldiers realise they are expendable, that's part of the job, but when it comes down to being told there is a plan for pulling a group out then being told afterward that it was a lie.... well, those aren't quite the same thing. If men are told they're on their own from the git-go, then they can plan accordingly and up their odds for survival with that in mind. If the plan from HQ was to drop them and leave them high and dry and they weren't given all the info so they could do their job with the optimum chance of success, then they have every right to be upset. But every man comes to grip and deals with the ugly realities differently. I, personally, am in Mike Coburn's camp on this one.
>>By Dare (Saturday, 20 Mar 2004 00:22)
Dare:
So am I. Now let's get a brew on, shall we? ;)
>>By ortlieb (Saturday, 20 Mar 2004 09:52)
Welcome, solid-shot...
Very nice choice of name. Very IA! (Good grins, too, related to the other "Solid Shot") We're always up for favourite one-liners, and IA is chock full of some of mine, like: "He turned to me and said, 'Right, when you're ready, get in there.' I thought, 'Oh, good one, delegation of tasks.' " :o)
Welcome back, Ortlieb!
Care to share any of your NATO-exercise tales? I've volunteered for brew bitch -- put plenty on for extra brews! (vbg! vbw!) So where's your mug?
Hi, Dare...
Here's the link to last year's March 14 online chat that Lynn quoted. (VBG, cuz actually the "expendable" question AM answered was from lynnholland!)
www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/showbiz/
articles/3930410?source=Evening%20Standard
The TIL links are actually messed up on their website. If you look for the November 17 chat, you get this March 14 chat. And if you look for the March 14 chat, it sends you off to a chat with Donal MacIntyre, an investigative journalist. I'll flork you the version F Troop saved of the November 17 chat. (I asked TIL about the Nov transcript but am still waiting.)
>>By am-i-binned (Saturday, 20 Mar 2004 13:30)
Oooops! Sorry, Dare -- brain glitch!
Forgot you already have the November online chat -- you even had your question answered! {shaking head sadly and muttering: "damn ol' timerz disease..."}
D: Andy, what do you think of media coverage of military operations? In general and specifically the in the Middle East conflicts?
AM: I think journalists being with front lines troops as they go into combat is a good thing, because it makes the public aware of the dangers and hardships they have to endure. The only problem I can see about the journalists being embedded is that they become too attached to the military and wont give us the truth, but this is at the higher level as they want to still have access to the front line.
>>By am-i-binned (Saturday, 20 Mar 2004 13:48)
Sheeessshhhh! I need to learn to read! My mistake, again.... thinking it was an interview from this year! :P
Thanks all for the info though. :)
>>By Dare (Sunday, 21 Mar 2004 05:21)
Hi, All...
Here's a link I've posted before, but looking at it this morning, I thought I'd share it again: http://home.hccnet.nl/22.sas/
>>By am-i-binned (Sunday, 21 Mar 2004 14:54)
Hi Y'all,
Well, I'm making headway through Liberation Day and I have a few questions about what I've read so far...
Here's hoping the spoiler thingy works (if I botch it, blame Dare)
1) Why did Greaseball (the source) pick such a crappy RV when he and Nick were supposed to meet in Chapter 10? (eg, no escape route, large unobstructed windows, etc) Shouldn't he have known better, being in that business??
2) Coke Light??? Wtf is that? Is that Europe's version of Diet Coke?
3) Fanny packs... Is this what he calls it in the British version as well? I thought that was a naughty word over there...
I have some other thoughts, too, but I'll save them for offboard...
>>By Majorette (Tuesday, 23 Mar 2004 18:13)
Thanks for the target on my back, Maj!!! LOL *wipes sweat off brow* Good thing it worked!
>>By Dare (Tuesday, 23 Mar 2004 18:23)
Ah Maj, it's been a while.. (LD) so on Q nr 1 I can't help you now,
Q 2 probably yes, it's called that in Holland too and nr 3: do you have the page number, then I'll look it up - in Dutch too, I'm curious about translation too.
>>By Lynn (Tuesday, 23 Mar 2004 20:04)
Ohman, Majorette...
There are two AM books I have not been able to bring myself to re-read yet: Liberation Day and Dark Winter. Guess the time has come tho... :o)
Q1: I think I assumed that the location was prearranged by George even tho Greaseball was sponsoring the meet itself.
Q2: Haha! I thought it was an editing oversight -- as in "Pepsi Light"...
Q3: Are you reading the US version of LD? If so, I think it's "bum-bag" in the UK version. (Sheesh, we Yanks gotta watch out for those kind of translation problems! vbg! vbw!)
>>By am-i-binned (Wednesday, 24 Mar 2004 08:40)
Hi Lynn-
P71-72, paragraph reads: "The dryer door behind me opened onto a batch of very flowery patterned sheets. I shifted my weight onto my left buttock and adjusted my fanny pack, which hung over the fly of my jeans and contained my passport and wallet..."
What's it called in your version?
And just to clarify, y'all call it "Coke Light" over there?? Hahaha My world is crumbling... if I can't count on the consistency of Coca~Cola across the globe, what else is there in life?
>>By Majorette (Wednesday, 24 Mar 2004 13:49)
Well M, in my UK version (p. 84 for me by the way) it reads:
"The tumbler door opened behind me on to a batch of very flowery patterned sheets. I shifted my weight on to my left buttock and adjusted my bum-bag, which hung over the fly of my jeans and contained my passport and wallet"
In Dutch it's called 'heuptasje'. Heup is 'hip' so it's a bag on the hip.
Nothing 'fanny' here ;o)
Coke light - it's actually Cola light (general term, used for either Coca Cola or Pepsi, or other). Coke does have a different meaning in Holland.
>>By Lynn (Wednesday, 24 Mar 2004 14:48)
Still making my way through Liberation Day and I gotta say there seems to be an awful lot of product placement... more so than in his previous books. Seems like on every other page he is either checking "Traser", donning/removing his Timberlands, or pocketing his Leatherman (which he apparently never leaves home without). Not to mention the already above-mentioned Coke Light.
Were the other books like this and I just missed it (the only thing that comes to mind from earlier works was the Baby G)? Or is this an exercise in not-so-subliminal marketing?
>>By Majorette (Friday, 26 Mar 2004 01:29)
Hi
<Smoke grenade>
Has anyone else also had the feeling that B20 was written by more than one hand?
Parts are written in such a way that the reader can't get any connection to the narrator/writer/AM, and other parts are much more intimate. The smoke clears...
AMSASW? WTF happened?? Flork me. <smoke grenade>
Is this a product of the fact that it is his first book, or just a heavy editorial hand, or my imagination?
Regards
Zetorpilot (Zetors can't fly, so hopefully this got in under the radar :-)
>>By The Scandinavian (Friday, 26 Mar 2004 09:06)
I think the marketing did get 'worse' but of course he will have been able to make more and better deals once the books had made him famous, so obviously not the first book(s). To be honest, it does not disturb me and if he made some good money out of it, good for him .
TS, if I decide today to write a book about the work that I do, with absolutely no experience in writing, I'd do a lot of asking around and get as much help as I can to make a good product. No one will be interested in my story, but the point is that AM certainly will have done the same.
>>By Lynn (Friday, 26 Mar 2004 10:54)
Yes Lynn, indeed I would too, however please look again where the smoke lies thinnest; that's where the real question is: those grenades were for avoiding the snip...
>>By The Scandinavian (Friday, 26 Mar 2004 13:00)
I'd read your book, L. :-)
On the B20 thing, there has been a lot of speculation as to what was written by whom.... The apparent unevenness could be the hand of an involved but less-than-subtle editor or it could be a new author working through some very difficult personal experiences. Or both.
>>By Dare (Friday, 26 Mar 2004 14:29)
TS my answer was covert smoke ;o)
>>By Lynn (Friday, 26 Mar 2004 15:12)
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