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>>By buddy (Friday, 2 Jan 2004 18:55)
Geist:
You noticed too, huh?
Sorry if I've been a tad consistant and boring. My hat's a bit tatty from wearing it for so long, too.
Perhaps AIB will sort me out a new one when I get back, if ever.
2 more days folks, that's all, just 2 days til I poof myself. Don't cheer too loudly...
>>By buddy (Friday, 2 Jan 2004 19:12)
Anyway I'm getting ready for this survival thing, so this is what I'll take in my bergen :
- a couple of mars bars rapped up in clingfilm
- 2 packets of frosties (we can mingle them with cocomilk)
- 10 pair of bikinis in all my favorite colours with slipppers and pareo to go by (all designer wair offcourse)
- 2 packets of anti-wrinkle cream for the eyes
- one honeysenced waxing thing
- one sunscreen tanning cream
- one after sun lotion
- one shower gel (apple perfum)
- one shower cap
- my hair curlers
- one baby-doll (pink)
- 2 shorts (one pink and one bluette)
- 2 t-shirts (idem)
- 2 uzi's
- one rocket launcher
- one small microwave oven (there will be a Tesco supermarket on the island now won't there)
- all of my favourite CD's
- a couple of beers (for AM offcourse, I don't drink)
- the usual underwear (bra and G-strings, can get usefull while hunting)
- -CR's survival book
- 1 self inflating tent with self inflating matress and mosquito net
- some Zip bars to make the fire
- knife and fork and the odd spoon, canopener
aswell (well I've got it all in my swiss-knife kit)
Oh hopefully he'll have his wash and shave kit with him, I'll take a spair one though.
Anything missing, you think?
>>By borisette (Friday, 2 Jan 2004 19:32)
Buddy, you'll be back don't worry, we'll drag you down here where ever you're going.
>>By borisette (Friday, 2 Jan 2004 19:36)
Ooooh, Borisette! Andy has been packed for quite a while now....
(found this a long time ago, internet source unknown)
"Pack Light" - Sgt Andy McNab, 22nd Reg. SAS
FATIGUES:
1 pair jeans
1 pair khakis
1 pair shorts
4 t-shirts
1 dress shirt
1 hooded sweat shirt
1 Water resistant camoflage jacket
4 pairs underwear
4 pairs socks
1 pair hiking boots
1 hat or balaklava
EQUIPMENT:
1 British Airways blanket & Towel
2 knives (Swiss Army & Switchblade)
3 Books - Bravo Two Zero, Immediate Action & Sven Hassell's
2 plastic bags (1 for wet kit, 1 for dry)
1 key lock (lockers & backpack)
1 Magellan GPS 315, laser pointer & cell phone
(use SATNAV to locate, illuminate & strike SCUD bases)
1 bar soap, shampoo, razor, toothbrush & paste
1 Let's Go Europe book (phrase book in back)
1 watch w/ alarm
1 wallet with $1000 in cash & T-checks, ATM card & VISA/MC
1 pair shades
1 camera and films
1 racing spoon & mug
1 deck of cards, dice, CD Walkman, zippo, H&K MP5 & Ammo
1 pair of balls…
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 2 Jan 2004 19:47)
Oooh I forgot, one pair of suspenders, very elastic and usefull to catch rabbits, you can use them as a catapult
>>By borisette (Friday, 2 Jan 2004 19:52)
Oh come'on Borisette, let the guys pack. I plan to go to that Island with nothing but me.. just like Eve.
(if not for anything else, it will scare the sharks away)
:o)
>>By Lynn (Friday, 2 Jan 2004 20:35)
Oooh, Borisette, you got me a bit sidetracked, what with all that survival kit you’re packin’… max is 15 stone per man, isn’t it?
A few catch-ups from previous page….
Re: Middle East/Iraq/OBL/SH/GWB/TB, etc., etc., etc.
Isn’t the only absolute is that there is no absolute? -- no one answer, solution, view, person, leader, group, regime, religion, government, country, power, etc.?
(hmmm... well, wait... maybe money...)
Welcome, The Yes Man...
Oooh, you’re jumping right in asking the ultimate questions:
“Does anybody actually know the true events that unfolded when bravo two zero were compromised? from sources other than the authers?.”
But anyone who truly knows can only give you two possible answers:
“I’m sorry, I cannot answer that question” and “If I tell you, I’ll have to kill you.” ;o)
Teasing aside, as to shoddy intel, the sad truth is that B20 was definitely not alone in being ill-prepared for the conditions encountered, as told in other books (Sabre Squadron, CQB, Eye of the Storm, Ghost Force, Victor Two, Tornado Down, etc.). And the issues of incompetence, abandonment, and betrayal are ones I’d very gladly revisit at anytime if you’d like.
Welcome back, Geist...
It’s been a while now. Nice to think that you’ve been following silently, but even nicer to have you posting!
Hi again, Lethe.
An oil ball (dough fried in oil)? We sorta have them here -- but more dough than oil -- we call them Dunkin' Donuts or Krispy Kremes! Yum!
Uhm… Nomad?
I’ve misplaced my “Brit-to-Yank Speak” dictionary again. Would you please translate (elucidate): milk tray man and Irn bru. I’m guessing but I might be guessing wrong…
Uh-oh, Lynn…
Now granted Borisette may be overpacking, but given your Eve-like attire (or lack thereof), sunscreen might be a good idea. Lobster red is not very fashionable let alone passionable… ;o)
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 2 Jan 2004 21:55)
Boy, I wish my wife packed like borisette or Lynn when we go camping! Can you explain how to use the undergarments while hunting? Maybe that'll help sell it.
>>By Astroboy (Friday, 2 Jan 2004 21:59)
"Can you explain how to use the undergarments while hunting?"
It's very simple for females, Astroboy! We just slip into the silkies and ask: "Are you game?" ;o)
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 2 Jan 2004 22:03)
Where's a rimshot when it's needed?
LOL!! Brilliant, AIB! I just spit an half a can of Diet Coke on my keyboard!
>>By Astroboy (Friday, 2 Jan 2004 22:09)
Ooooh, lovely!
>>By am-i-binned (Friday, 2 Jan 2004 22:30)
Hi room ,
may be irrelevant to the topic of your discussion but is there any one who has the text of the drama "Rosencranz and Guildenstern are dead " by Tom Stoppard?
i need it for witing a critical analysis on it, but haven't found it yet.
if you now a certain URL which can be heplful please let me know as soon as possible. (before the Tuesday 3rd. January) or send the text to my e.mail adress please, if you have it. mitra_ghaffari2002@yahoo.com
thank you so much
Bye, Mitra
>>By Mitra (Friday, 2 Jan 2004 23:03)
Hi Mitra, have tried searching around but didn't find anything. :(
Hey guys, how are ya all? :P
Am-I-Binned, mind warning me the next time you're gonna say something like this? I've spilled Astroboy's other ½ of Diet Fanta. At least this time I've painted only the monitor. o_O Yeah, a new meaning of the computer term: "refresh"! ¬_¬
By the way, what is "rimshot"!? I've searched in the web and in our (over 25 year old "The Concise Heritage") English Dictionary and can't find the meaning...
I'll think of a list myself for my future bergen... Hey Borisette, if I'll bring some un-used dental floss, will you use it as a G-string? Think it as a XXX-mas present for you, and for those other (females, please) who Dare -oops- try! The one I have had mint flavour too! *grin*
Hope you'll be abel to fork out more info from us Mitra! :D
>>By Deusrexmachina (Saturday, 3 Jan 2004 02:36)
Pardon:
able *
:P
>>By Deusrexmachina (Saturday, 3 Jan 2004 02:37)
Re-pardon:
The one I have has mint flavour too! *grin*
... been giggling a bit too much while typing...
>>By Deusrexmachina (Saturday, 3 Jan 2004 02:39)
Deus - a "rimshot" is the ba-dum-dum-crash (three pops on the drum, then the cymbal) that you hear after a particularly good (or really bad) joke during a comedian's stand-up routine. This may be a uniquely Yank thing. If you can catch David Letterman's TV talk show somewhere on the sattelite dish, you'll see (and hear) plenty of rimshots.
My wifey does bring dental floss on our camping trips. I guess I just haven't asked her to use it correctly...
>>By Astroboy (Saturday, 3 Jan 2004 04:25)
Mitra:
Wrong board, but if you search using Tom Stoppard/Hamlet you're sure to come across urls with links to "Rosencranz and Guildenstern are dead "
After all, it's a condensed version of Hamlet.
Astroboy:
UK high velocity "Rimshot" in some quarters (particularly military) has a lot to do with flatulance, i.e,
military terminology: FART.
Gentleman Jim terminology: WIND.
>>By buddy (Saturday, 3 Jan 2004 10:08)
Some info for the Yes man :
When the AWAC picked up B20 's emergency signal,it changed direction and headed for their area. It hoped to monitor the direction and their location and vector a helicopter pick-up on it. Asit headed towards the area at 15,000 feet, the emergency siren sounded on board and the white lights in the main cabin went to red. An Iraqi Mig had "locked" on to them and was coming in fast for an attack.Neither the signaller nor the American crew had ever been in air-combat situation before and needless to say, they were some terrified expressions on board. The AWAC pilot went on immediate evasive action and lurched the heavy craft into anti-pursuit patterns. ..... The AWACS have no offensive capability. ......The Mig had released an air to air missile and it closed on the AWAC at a rapid pace:The AWAC is not exactly an agile craft, but the pilot threw it violently about in an effort to lose the missile. For the Mig, the AWAC was a sitting duck. Suddenly there were 2 loud pops, followed seconds later by 2 explosions that shuddered the aircraft as it banked steeply.
"We're hit!" cried the signaller as he clutched his seat with white knuckles.
"Chaff!" shouted an equally frightened US crewman strapped in beside him. He was referrign to the anti-missile devices released by the AWAC, designed to explode behind its tail sending out thousand of tiny shards of foil and heat to confuse the enemy missile's guidance system. The AWAC dived and turned back to level flight and headed towards a pair of American fighters wich were allready responding to the attack. The aircraft ceased its violent movement as the pilot brought it under control. Then his voice came over the intercom again, "He's a-runnin".
A cheer went up and the crew applauded. The signaller sat back totally exhausted by the experience.
The irresponsability of B20 's mission would have been highlighted even more had the AWAC gone down.
(Duncan Falconer-SBS- First into Action)
>>By borisette (Saturday, 3 Jan 2004 11:15)
Astroboy : undergarments refering to the suspenders I guess......... remember David and Goliath ..??
Deus : yes some dentalfloss will do nicely, can use it as a mousetrap.
>>By borisette (Saturday, 3 Jan 2004 11:18)
"The irresponsability of B20 's mission would have been highlighted even more had the AWAC gone down."
Hmmm....
Borisette, since this is a bit out of context, does Falconer explain elsewhere exactly what he means by "irresponsibility of B20's mission"? Is he talking about the actual assignment of the mission in the first place? Or AM's decision to carryout the mission rather than aborting as Bravo Three Zero's patrol commander did? Or is it a judgment in some way that B20 had been irresponsible in either being compromised or in sending out the emergency signal?
(Thanks for the excerpt, Borisette; yet another addition to the lordy-when-will-I-ever-find-time-to-read-it book list...)
>>By am-i-binned (Saturday, 3 Jan 2004 12:59)
Uhm… Nomad?
I’ve misplaced my “Brit-to-Yank Speak” dictionary again. Would you please translate (elucidate): milk tray man and Irn bru. I’m guessing but I might be guessing wrong…
AIB - the milk tray man is a character from an advert here in the UK - dresses in black, outruns avalanches and inevitably ends up in m'lady's chamber where he deposits a box of Milk tray chocolates and a calling card with his blacked out sillhouette before departing.
Irn Bru is Scotlands other national drink. Made from girders (Steel reinforced joists?) Nice with Southern comfort if you have a sweet tooth.
Tom Brown reccomends loin cloths when tracking to minimise sound so you seem to be on the right lines with you choices of appareil.
cheers
>>By Nomad (Saturday, 3 Jan 2004 13:41)
Thanks, Nomad. I guessed right; I was guessing wrong.... :o)
Went looking for Tom Brown. Surprise! He's just across the bridge and about 50 miles away in the Jersey Pine Barrens. Dunno about choice of attire at this time of year there tho! Brrrrrrr!
>>By am-i-binned (Saturday, 3 Jan 2004 14:07)
OK...before it's too late...here's my effort for the Survival Island challenge...
Non-celebrity lady...
Who else could I choose buy my partner in crime...Beth (I know, I know...she's Inkfamous...). On hearing this, AM would be hot footing it to the other side of the island to escape 'More Really Important Questions'...
So, we'd need another celebrity male to keep us occupied...
Yep...Mr Ryan. Now...what could we do with him?
LOL...as if I'd telll...
<slap> <slap> back to reality...
Ummmm...he could read some bedtime stories to us B.A.B.E.S...
B.A.B.E.S could help him out with his twitch...
Now...one more celeb male...
Mebbe I'd choose a little eye candy in the form of the very gorgeous Ben Bostrom. If you haven't seen him...you should (IMHO)...take a peek here (losing hard returns)...
http://www.benbostrom.com/cgi-local/
gallery/gallery.cgi?func=show&file=
200438&Category=100003&Page=5
So, he's a bike racer (AMA) but he surfs and climbs too...that'll come in handy won't it? But p'raps someone a more extensive survival skill set? Seein' as AM has b*ggered off and CR will be entertaining the B.A.B.E.S
So, another lovely man...Bruce Parry (http://pws.prserv.net/endeavour/bruce.htm)
Excellent credentials for the job
Yep...she's gone for the ex-Marine...
Again...
Hope you've all had happy holidays and got all you wanted...
I did...pay attention...here's the maths...
exam pass + signed DW = happy bikergirl
>>By bikergirl (Saturday, 3 Jan 2004 14:22)
Oooh first post for 2004!!
AIB balls, suspenders? Hey bikergirl there's a babe in waiting here!!
Anyway as for Falconer quote bit I seem to remember he was being critical that on their written mission thingy (technical me) they said they were heading one way (Saudi??) but actually went the other way to Syria after they were compromised. So that the forces were searching in the completely wrong area for them.
I've ditched Direct Action for now (sorry Johnny) and I'm reading Freefall by Mr Read (thank you man indoors!!), it's excellent. And very very humbling...
>>By Bethan (Saturday, 3 Jan 2004 15:02)
Bethan dear it's in CR's book (I know how much you luv the fella), in TOTGA page 304 :
"The main problem was that the regimental headshed was expecting us to strike back for the Saudi Border in case of trouble, whereas after our initial feint wehad set off in exactly the opposite direction."
AIB : Falconer doesn't speak about AM or the other soldiers, he mainly refers what was said to him by the signaller of the AWAC, who was the only british crewmember on board, they met a couple of months later.
Anyway here is another quote I want you to read :
"The SBS might well have sent out its own patrols in search of the scuds, wich again was a more political than tactical move to keep the Israelis happy, but the SAS were up to their old tricks again back in special forces HQ in RIYADH. They successfully blocked all attempts by the SBS to get involved in that department. So much for the combined special forces concept. In retrospect, missing out on chasing Scuds was not such a bad thing as the missions mostly turned out to be either fruitless or suicidal. At one time during the war the SAS had at least 22 men on the ground, and out of communication with their HQ, who had to be considered missing in action. Considering the relative size of the conflict, and what little there was to do for the strenght of force the allies had put against the Iraqis, this seemed amateurish.
The SAS were acting like a bunch of soccer hooligans leaping all over the desert looking for someone to bash and getting lost in process. The Americans seemed content to let the SAS have their little adventures and continued to provide the technological security dome over the war zone, ready to act in the event of an emergency."
(then comes the bit about B20, but I've allready written that above).
So you see, .....
>>By borisette (Saturday, 3 Jan 2004 15:44)
Re: north to Syria vs south to Saudi (excerpts from B20)
"We now worked on the E&E plan. We would be 300Ks from Saudi, but only 120 from neighboring countries. ... We looked at the options. If we were compromised, did we tab it all the way south or did we move north-west? We'd probably have a lot of drama getting across any border, but we'd have that going south as well. They'd guess we were going south anyway, and it was a hell of a long distance to run." ...
"Unless we're told otherwise, Bert," I said, "we're not going south. ...
"We were told we were going in that night. ... In the afternoon, I gave a formal set of orders. Everybody who was involved in the task was present -- all members of the patrol; the squadron OC; the OPS officer who oversees all the squadron's operations. After I had delivered them verbally, the orders would be handed over to the operations centre. They would stay there until the mission was completed, so that if anything went wrong everybody would know what I wanted to happen. ...
It took about an hour and a half to go through all the details of each phase. Next were co-ordinating instructions, the nitty-gritty details like timings, grid references, RVs, locations of interest. These had already been given but would be said agin to confirm. This stage also included actions on capture, and details of the E&E plan."
And the same formal orders were delivered a second time:
"I checked my orders at a table on the other side of the airfield, undistracted. Because the first infilk had been aborted, I would have to deliver an orders group all over again that afternoon -- not in as much detail, but going over the main points."
"We still had to go into the Phases (outline plan) with the squadron OC and sergeant-major. They would hit us with a lot of questions of the "what if?" variety... With luck, they might even approve the plan. ...
... The squadron OC had given the plan his approval..."
So, what were the E&E instructions exactly? Had B20's decision to head north-west to Syria been overridden by the squadron OC or did he approve their plan to travel the shorter escape route?
What did include traveling south was the lost comms procedure:
"The following night, we'd simply go back to the landing sight and RV with a heli at 0400 to exchange radios. ... Our lost comms continguency would have come into effect by now, and the helicopter would have been briefed to meet us the following morning at 0400. There was no concern. ... When we met the aircraft we would get a one-for-one exchange, or get on the aircraft and relocate."
But that helicopter never showed up...
>>By am-i-binned (Saturday, 3 Jan 2004 16:22)
Double-thanks, Borisette!
For follow-up on Falconer's comment, and because I had forgotten that CR confirmed that their E&E plan was approved as Saudi!
Uh-oh, Bethan....
Probably should know better but: "AIB balls, suspenders?" -- huh, wha? :o\
>>By am-i-binned (Saturday, 3 Jan 2004 16:25)
So long folks...
The url below has some pics you may not have seen (all that is)
Usual format of don't forget to join up the two lines before punching the go button.
http://www.geocities.com/
specialairservice22nd/Selection.html
I won't delete my profile, hee, hee, don't want no sneaky little bastard pretending to be me!!!
cheers
>>By buddy (Sunday, 4 Jan 2004 00:26)
Closes door quietly, tiptoes across gravel drive, "Switch out that f*****g light!!!!"
Will be back one day...
>>By buddy (Sunday, 4 Jan 2004 00:31)
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