Juan Rulfo
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nope you are not going mad, that makes sense.
>>By response to RuSlaN14 (Thursday, 17 Apr 2003 19:04)
RUSLAN IS THE MAN. (Thursday, 17 Apr 2003 19:05)
i'll keep digging till i feel something
>>By Tool (Thursday, 17 Apr 2003 19:06)
Feeg
I know I contridicted myself, but it is my inner struggle. I am an animal lover but I love burgers and have quite a few baseball gloves. I am torn inside. Sorry Feeg.
>>By Raoul Duke (Thursday, 17 Apr 2003 19:06)
Comment to #14: Awesome!! Very interesting indeed.....
>>By Trudy (Thursday, 17 Apr 2003 19:06)
To RuslaN14
I am humbled by the size of your very big brain. ( I mean that in all honesty and seriousness. You are smart... and I am so very dumb.)
>>By Annoymous (Thursday, 17 Apr 2003 19:06)
Yeah, Ruslan rocks the dance floor alright. (Thursday, 17 Apr 2003 19:08)
Comment: Ruslan: Yes you do rock....very deep thinking....I am impressed!!
>>By Trudy (Thursday, 17 Apr 2003 19:09)
I know I'm smart no one needs to tell me! I'm smarter than all of you!
>>By Ruslan (Thursday, 17 Apr 2003 19:09)
I think Don Lupe's son would also shhot Steve (Thursday, 17 Apr 2003 19:09)
here is an interesting comment about the mexican revolution which was taking place the time the story was written, especially the part about exploitation of rural people.
(the wake of the mexican revolution) posted from :
http://nt2.ec.man.ac.uk/multimedia/Mexican%20Revolution.htm
Some of these ‘quiet’ regions, like the Yucatan, were places where the most vicious and brutal forms of exploitation of rural people took place.
I'm not saying Juvencio was unfairly punished. But he deffinately wasn't put in front of a court, his death was decided by an army official, like many areas in mexico at that time, it was the army which was trying to restore order in the wake of the mexican revolution.
>>By Ben (Thursday, 17 Apr 2003 19:17)
It was a great idea to do a discussion session on-line!!! Thank you Sunshine, it was something new and interesting !
R. (Thursday, 17 Apr 2003 20:01)
This is a new discussion centering around the novel Pedro Paramo. I am going to set some ground rules. No Puppy Chow, no inane jokes--stay focused on the topic / thread. We are borrowing someone else's site for our discussion. Offer the best that you can.
So here goes: 1) When did you realize that you were reading about dead ghosts? 2) Was Juan dead at first? 3) I get the impression that he wasn't, & if he wasn't, somewhere along the way, he had to die. When?
Hunt for specific examples from the text.
4) Also, in class tomorrow, I want to see if we can label what character is speaking when? It seems as if when a new person is introduced, shortly after, his/her story is provided. Not always. Try labeling the character's' name(s) in the margin.
5) Also, I want to look at the difference between justice, revenge & mercy...as a follow up to last Thursday's discussion.
If you want to follow any of these threads, use the numbers w/a P in front of it. For example: P1, P2 or P3 (for Pedro). And follow the same way with your names--that seemed to work pretty well.
Happy Commenting!
Sunshine
>>By Sunshine (Sunday, 20 Apr 2003 23:14)
PS
Thanks Ruslan. It was a neat activity. After reading everyone's comments, people offered some pretty insightful stuff. I'm looking forward to our discussion.
See everyone tomorrow.
Sunshine
>>By Sunshine (Sunday, 20 Apr 2003 23:17)
Sunshine: 'We are borrowing someone else's site for our discussion'
Yes, it's my website. Welcome aboard :o)
>>By mg (Sunday, 20 Apr 2003 23:48)
P18 I wasn't sure in the beginning if the people Juan was coming into contact with were all dead. It seemed as though some might have been ghosts and others with the ability to see and communicate with ghosts.
Probably the first time I had any inclination that Juan also was dead was page 2656 when Dorotea is talking to him and explaining how she and Donis had buried Juan
>>By cindy (Sunday, 20 Apr 2003 23:51)
P18 I finally finished the story and I am so confused! What happened to Juan Preciado? The last entry I read is p. 2660. I thought one of the main points to this story was for Juan to find and talk with his father, Don Pedro. What am I missing?
>>By cindy (Monday, 21 Apr 2003 01:50)
To MG
I stumbled onto your site when I was researching Juan Rulfo. My world lit class just finished reading Tell Them Not To Kill Me & all of the previous entries--minus the goofing off--were threads & discussions we were exploring about that work. Tomorrow Pedro Paramo is due--you can see from the previous couple of entries, where we are headed. By all means, join in...we would love your feedback & insight. Sunshine
>>By Sunshine (Monday, 21 Apr 2003 03:01)
Cindy, I am going to let someone else pick up your question for now. Feeg is suppose to be getting on, Ruslan, Ben & I think Trudy.
I'll check in later. Sunshine
>>By Sunshine (Monday, 21 Apr 2003 03:02)
P3: Finally had a chance to check in. I think I realized I was "seeing dead people" starting on p. 2640. There is a reference of Eduvigas taking her own life and yet on p.2641 she is in conversation with Juan Preciado. I don't think Juan was dead at first either. I pick up something in the reading on p.2656, 2657 "are you trying to make me believe you drowned, Juan Preciado?" Could he have been scared to death from the murmers of all the dead people? I think he died in the plaza. This was one crazy story. My first impression of it was "A Christmas Carol" with good old Scrooge and then I moved onto visions of "night of the living dead." Yuck! by Trudy
>>By Trudy (Monday, 21 Apr 2003 04:04)
Cindy's going to like your entry--at least the Yuck!
>>By Sunshine (Monday, 21 Apr 2003 04:39)
P9
Im enjoying this story... the flashbacks are requiring a little more concentration than I like, but that's alright.
I realized that this story was set among the paranormal when he encountered Edugives and she told him that his mother had told her that he was coming. She commented on Dolorita's voice having been faint because she'd been dead for a week. In my opinion, Edugives is a medium, not dead. On p. 2630 she says that she must catch up with his mother "along one of the rods to eternity." It was brought to my attention that she might also be in Purgitory... hmm.
>>Amanda K (Monday, 21 Apr 2003 05:01)
I didn't know anyone was dead until Edugives mentioned taking her life. I think Juan Preciades was dead the whole time, which I didn't know he was even dead until he was buried with the crazy lady. I liked this story, although it was a little hard to follow, with all the narrative and present to past changes. It was more confusing at first, you think you are reading a normal story about a boy looking for his father, traveling along a lonely road. Then all of a sudden you are back in Pedro's childhood. But after you got used to his writing and got into the story I understood it better.
>>By Ed (Monday, 21 Apr 2003 16:01)
I also didn't realize Albunido killed Pedro until the blood was on his hands. Is it Mexico that has the day of the Dead celebration, with all the masks and the parade, or is that another culture?
>>By Ed (Monday, 21 Apr 2003 16:04)
Dead celebration is Mexican.
I didn't get that Albunido killed Pedro....now that you say it, hum...I see it. Except, it seems as it is a stroke...
>>By Sunshine (Monday, 21 Apr 2003 17:05)
The story reminded me of Spoonriver in that you learn everyone's story from ghosts.
>>By Ed (Monday, 21 Apr 2003 17:09)
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