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Try this...

http://www.biscuitsbrown.com/
forces_dictionary/dictionary.php

..for all sorts of useful and interesting definitions, including freckles.

According to this excellent reference, a fizzer is a charge but it doesn't say whether it is in common usage or not.

On the subject of definitions, can anyone explain "strap back", used frequently when astounded by KT, RHA gunner of my acquaintance?

>>By Lisle45 (Tuesday, 13 Dec 2005 18:07)

A fizzer is a charge, as in "He's on a fizzer for being late on parade." But it's so old-fashioned it's only used jokingly.

>>By fastball (Tuesday, 13 Dec 2005 18:24)

Thanks yet again, Fastball!

>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 13 Dec 2005 19:36)

Oooops! And thanks to you, too, Lisle45! :o)

>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 13 Dec 2005 19:37)

Argh, good grief! Thank you, too, Fony.... and anyone else I hope I haven't missed! (I'm obviously suffering a serious scroll-back impairment today!) :o\

>>By am-i-binned (Tuesday, 13 Dec 2005 19:53)

Dear Fastball,

Couple-a-questions: Aggressor

BTW: folks I don't believe these are spoiler questions, and I am not adept enough to fiddle with that spoily thingie MG made.

1. Whats the term "Paperclip" mean?
2. Was it intentinal for Andy to be writing very Brity in this book? IE: maybe more then most of his books.
3. Do you think Andy has any hope for piggy-backing his books to be published in America, so us Yanks needit worry about those hefty shipping charges? Plus that conversion rate is horrible.

Thanks Fastball, I get the impression you are in the know. I am glad you have joined are little group of Andy fans. Also, Aggressor was fantastic.

>>By Reighnman (Wednesday, 14 Dec 2005 02:01)

Don't understand why theres a big shipping charge i picked up aggressor in o'hara airport, chicago, for $10.

>>By fony (Wednesday, 14 Dec 2005 02:47)

Whaaaa?!?!? :oO

You were in Chicago recently, Fony, and you didn't let us know?!? :o(

>>By am-i-binned (Wednesday, 14 Dec 2005 08:03)

Double Whoa!!!!! Fony.....Chicago!!! Dude you're just down the road...damn almost a F-troop reunion...dang.....

As for Aggressor being in the good ol USA? must have been an airport deal....defintitly not in the local book stores in my area to the North of Chicago....

Ah well, Fony..thanks for the info...maybe nexy book I'll go check out my airport!

Chicago though..thats close. See ya

>>By Reighnman (Wednesday, 14 Dec 2005 08:45)

Precannulation is the inserting of a cannula before going into a situation where wounding is likely so that there is no need to look for a vein in the emergency. What ever happened to Doc Jay?

Reighman, Paperclip is Andy's joke about the appearance of the local language when printed (Serbo-Croat?). I was also a bit puzzled as to why he wrote in that style in Aggressor. Maybe he was trying to recapture the essence of his first two books which gave him his early success, could sales have been falling? Does anyone know the sales figures for all the books? Surprising that the books are not published simultaneously in America; again, what are the figures?

>>By camban (Wednesday, 14 Dec 2005 12:36)

Camban:
<< ... Surprising that the books are not published simultaneously in America... >>

It seems, Cam, that it's a matter of what the publishers think will sell -- UK market vs US market. When I first discovered AM's books (8/02), the release schedule seemed to be: first, the UK hardback release, then within six months to a year, the UK paperback release and the US publishers' hardback release. That changed, tho, after Liberation Day. In the US, hardbacks of Dark Winter and Deep Black were not released at all, let alone within the year following UK publication.

While my stated mission, of course, is to increase AM's US readership, it's understandable that his books have more predictable market appeal in the UK than here in the US, the same way as US military/thrillers appeal to US readers.

That said, tho, I can't help wondering how on earth Aggressor landed up on a bookstand in Chicago's O'Hare, at a discounted price, only to be purchased by a Brit, and a Brit soldier no less! Nice going, Fony, taking that book back to the UK with you! I hope you realize you set my mission back by one... ;oP

>>By am-i-binned (Wednesday, 14 Dec 2005 19:23)

Hahaha, on an airport there's no telling who would have bought it, if not Fony. It could have been someone being short of toilet paper (sorry, just saw a clip called 'what Santa does with our wishlists' - add toilet paper coming up and there's little left to your imagination).

Speaking of Aggressor, my book in the mail for more than 2 weeks now and still not arrived. I'm having flashbacks of Boy Soldier and seriously thinking there's a mailmonster who hates me.

And speaking of books in general:

Frontline: The True Story of the British Mavericks Who Changed the Face of War Reporting

McNab says: "A compelling tale of courage, cunning and adventure and a vivid portrait of lives lived to the full. I was gripped by it."

For synopsis:
http://www.charitygiving.co.uk/minisites/
default.asp?subname=FrontlineForum

>>By Lynn (Wednesday, 14 Dec 2005 23:00)

Hey Cam, thanks for the Paperclip def. I guess I just found it a cool term, more -or -less.

As for US and UK publishing, The last book I have seen as AIB described, was Last Light. I picked up at a B&N. For the cool title. Now it seems Andy's stictly not pub'ing in the US. Odd, really its not like we have an over abundence of literary masters like Andy. I can't imagine the books not selling....Get those dang Brit Yips edited out and boom, instant best seller.

>>By Reighnman (Thursday, 15 Dec 2005 00:57)

Thanks aib & Reighman. You say that you don't have an over abundance of authors like McNab in the US? Oh but you do, apart from some brilliant Vietnam authors (there really are some gems by American authors writing about their experiences) you have Stephen Coonts, Dale Brown, and Gordon Kent for example. All ex-military writers who construct highly credible and absorbing stories on a vast scale, mostly featuring their own character creations who appear in each subsequent book so they are best read in published order, or in the order recommended by each writer. Try some, you won't be disappointed!

>>By camban (Thursday, 15 Dec 2005 12:03)

I believe, Cam, that Reighnman was agreeing with me -- that, here in the US, there's a plethora of books by American authors like those you've named, whereas Brit-based and Brit-authored books in the same genre are way more difficult to come by. All of the Brit-authored books I have, I've had to purchase directly from the UK.

Coincidentally, I had originally included references to Coontz, Brown, and Flynn as I drafted my previous post, but, in the final edit, I opted to use the more generalized "US military/thrillers". Like minds? ;o)

>>By am-i-binned (Thursday, 15 Dec 2005 12:59)

I stand corrected, thanks aib. Well there are plenty of Brit authored SAS/SBS/Paras biogs around, all of them good or very good, you can find them all reviewed in AMFT in addition to Stephen Leather and Terence Strong, both Brit authors who write principally SAS based novels. Neither are ex-military but their research is impeccable. Assuming of course that they are both available in the US, which they seem to be.

>>By camban (Thursday, 15 Dec 2005 15:32)

Yup, you're right, Cam -- both Leather and Strong are available from Amazon.com (US) -- but the publishers of their hardback versions are Brits. (The US publishers did release some, but only in paperback.) And when I checked the catalog for the Free Library of Philadelphia and the surrounding five counties -- only 4 books by Leather, 0 by Strong... :o(

>>By am-i-binned (Thursday, 15 Dec 2005 15:51)

Can't win can ya, well we have difficultys too, there are many books i've picked up on my travels by US authors. And many have been outstanding reads, but can i find them over here? can i hell. theres one book i picked up in O'hara again but this was in 2001, about the lrrps of the rangers in Vietnam i have searched high and low but to no avail, mind you it does help if you know the author and the title but it raised my opinion of US troops in vietnam ten fold. If anyone has an idea what book it might be, try and find a pic of the cover because i woulld really like to read it again.

>>By fony (Friday, 16 Dec 2005 02:48)

Ah Jeez Fony, a homework project! Tell ya what , I will look my next visit to the local B&N. And don't worry I get there often. I even think I know. Problem being I think there's a few. LRRPS being< Long Range Recon Patrol Scouts? I hope! Scary job, indeed

Camban, I was being a bit silly when I said my comments about US authors. We both know that Thriller, slash mystery's have become quite exceptional in the last ten years or so. I guess I am just more baffeled why Andy is not selling here. I realize sales and such influence publishers. I guess Ian Rankin sells like mad here. But frankly, he's wonderful writer, but it takes me some effort.

If I can take on more liberty, for Fony. Uhm! Chickin Hawk, The Tunnels of Cu Chi, and the two Charles Henderson books about Carlos Hathcock. The tunnel book well scare the heck outta ya good. Not sure what was worse the rats or the V Cong hiding in complete darkness.

>>By Reighnman (Friday, 16 Dec 2005 03:08)

Thx reighnman i have read chickenhawk and that was a good book, but my last post sent me on a mission to fin the bloody book and low and behold a few hundred pages later i find the audio version of it. heres a link for all of you to go and get it because it is a brilliant read. http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/sr=8-11/qid=1134698862/ref=sr_8_11/601-2515052-1744945?%5Fencoding=UTF8&asin=0553528017

>>By fony (Friday, 16 Dec 2005 03:11)

fony, the king-pin of the LRRP books is Gary Linderer, he has been involved with several, either as author, co-author, or intro writer, but there are others. You could simply search for him by name on Amazon, or just use LRRP or LRP, using the same, you can also search on the AMFT reviews, I always try to use the main subject area for 'Nam books. Agree about Chickenhawk, there are a number of others by the incredible chopper pilots of that era too; such amazing men.

>>By camban (Friday, 16 Dec 2005 13:14)

wouldn't it be so much easier to have a military book club set up like this. yeh i am trying to get my hands on linderers books at the moment, but i reccomend you stay away from a book called team leader by something burford, his military records were checked and he was apparently full of ****. thx for the reccomendations though cam. Looking for the tunnels of cu chi as well thx reighnman. I'm leaving the army in may and i thought i would give up reading these books but i still have to read them weird but hey it keeps me occupied.

>>By fony (Friday, 16 Dec 2005 15:22)

Ah heck the link wont work....Its at Amazon Fony

Try that link Fony, for the tunnels book! I guess there a Video too?

Sorry folks for making Andy's page a Nam page, but honestly some great work written their.

Hey Fony 12 yrs out, and I still love reading military books. Hey, won't get all teary, but they got real impact. True to B20!!

>>By Reighnman (Friday, 16 Dec 2005 15:46)

Well fony mate, look no further, I have a nice copy of 'The Tunnels of Cu Chi' complete with plastic cover on my Amazon seller's site for a measly £2.00! Very good read it is too, a few surprises in it for you but the overall impression is admiration for the awesome work ethic of those diddy little Vietnamese. Guess Reighman saw my listing, I am camban99 in there. All my Linderer books have gone though.

>>By camban (Friday, 16 Dec 2005 15:53)

I can't even HEAR the word "book" at the moment. I'm pissed and I'm sad. I'll be the LAST of you all to be able to read Aggressor!!! If ever. No more signed or dedicated of me, I'm gonna order the cheepest copy I can find in a 4th hand bookstore, if it gets lost then at least I can spend the money in the nearest bar. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

>>By Lynn (Friday, 16 Dec 2005 16:42)

whoa whats up lynn? i'm not gonna say don't spend any money in a bar(my faveourite place). but what has happened to drive you to drink?

thx cam, i read a review on the tunnels of cu chi earlier after it was mentioned and found some interesting facts out about the book: 1. It was written by two british authors
2. half the events didn't even happen
and 3. i'll read it anyway

sorry i have a habit of finding the pages with people that want to take authors down at the moment.

well off to check cambams amazon shop.

>>By fony (Friday, 16 Dec 2005 17:43)

Do you know the movie "The Lost Books" Fony? It doesn't exist but I could write the script.

That's the last of the nagging Im gonna do about it, after all.. I did survive driving with lose screws to a car tire yesterday. It may just be the guardian-book angel that passed away.

;-)

>>By Lynn (Saturday, 17 Dec 2005 16:15)

Lynn I would suggest proper addressing.

If you need your address flork me, I have it my date book!! hahaha

I know bad humor.

>>By Reighnman (Saturday, 17 Dec 2005 16:42)

I'd be in a bad humour, too, having books lost in PostalLand... :o( ... that time my UK 1st ed B20 went MIA was more than enough for me!

>>By am-i-binned (Saturday, 17 Dec 2005 16:57)

totally irrelevant rant but i just paid £440 for two tires for my car what the hell is the world coming to, for the Americans among us thats about $740.

>>By fony (Saturday, 17 Dec 2005 19:31)

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