J.R.R. Tolkien


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I enjoyed reading the Lord of the Rings Triology and the Hobbit but that sort of whymsical story isn't really the sort of book I go for. Liking it really says a lot. Haha. But anyway, I think that J.R.R. Tolken did an exellent job explaining scenery and making it come alive in your imagination, that's something I look for in a book. If I can't get into it then it just isn't worth reading!


>>By Wednesday   (Sunday, 31 Oct 2004 22:19)

It really bugs me when people judge Tolkien on the LOTR movies...clearly these people have never read any of his work, otherwise they would know, for example, that Arwen is not the saviour of a whinging frodo <grumbles> lol, has anyone here read something of his other than just LOTR or the Hobbit? if so what did you think?

>>By Alleria   (Monday, 1 Nov 2004 05:35)

arwen bashed Glorfindel on the head and stole his horse <grumble> i mean.... they just wanted a boo-yah for Arwen... Arwen has about one line in all of the books, and its when she and Aragorn are already married and she gives her ride to the undying lands to frodo. GAH! Also... tolkein never wrote that much kissing in his life! The movie is still good tho. It bugs me that it makes it seem like frodo was so sick after about 8 hours after being stabbed on whethertop. FRODO FOUGHT FOR HIS HOLD ON LIFE FOR LIKE 16 DAYS PEOPLE! it made him seem like a sissy.

>>By Megano   (Tuesday, 2 Nov 2004 01:44)

I believe that in all of the LOTR movies Frodo looked a little week and helpless while the books portraied him in a very "take charge" sense. I also noticed the descrepencies between the books and the movies but I suppose it was all changed for cinematic effect, wheter that was good or bad is up to the individual. I have read the Silmarillion, I didn't really care for it though, I'm not the type to read these books.


>>By Wednesday   (Tuesday, 2 Nov 2004 03:19)

The Books are Great :-)
the Films are bad :-(

>>By Lethe-Elbenmagierin   (Wednesday, 3 Nov 2004 12:08)

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>>By polemik   (Sunday, 14 Nov 2004 23:09)

do you think J.R.R. Tolkien was on the magic mushrooms?

>>By mike   (Monday, 15 Nov 2004 19:19)

the films are not bad, but no film could ever be like the book it is adapted from. arwen does not score much in the story, but has her part in the appendix, and the love story is there. i was disappointed when peter jackson left tom bombadil out. however, it has a logic. a character that would take about 15 minutes of movie time, never to appear again, isn't a director's favourite. i think he did a good job. so does robert jordan. he says that, after seeing the LOTR films, he began to think that maybe The Wheel of Time - WOT series could also be brought to the screen. maybe, but that's an even bigger job, there being ten books now, to sum up to 15, with the 3 prequels. anybody out there who likes WOT?

>>By vinny   (Monday, 15 Nov 2004 20:41)

i have heard of Wot and all ihear is good things, i dont believe anything can compare to lord of te rings thought and maybe Wot is bigger but the genius of tolkien can never be beatin, all writers can do now is read his stuff and then make something simliar to it. But it would be nice to see another big movie like lotr and this Wot could be it and 10 books , 10 years of films not bad. And for Pj's attempt on Lotr like cutting Tom bombadil, and adding arwen well , for one the ring doesnt even effect tom so where is the evil and frankly there was to much crazyness in that chapter and as for arwen, well Liv Tyler is hot and who needs another male elf like in the book... Real hot

>>By zeromenace   (Tuesday, 30 Nov 2004 11:55)

Why is no1 posting anything about tolkien anymore, ok the 3 movies are finished but come on there most be few hard cores fans out there who still read the books... and im the only person who posted anything about christopher tolkein , ok hes not his father but without these help the books would of being never finished!!!

Tolkien 4ever !!!

>>By zeromenace   (Wednesday, 19 Jan 2005 16:25)

I wasn't so much dissapointed in the movies as I was in the videogames. They have nothing to do with the books excepting that they have the same characters. There is no talking, no scenery, none of that "boring" stuff that made the books so special. It's just killing, killing and killing. No real strategy, you don't need to know anything about the books to play it because you just walk in a straight line and kill orcs and trolls that come your way. I thought when trying it I would capture the feeling like I was in the actual story, acting out as Frodo or Gandalf, but I just couldn't get into it. It doesn't capture you at all. I guess that's the problem with making a videogame out of a book though...

>>By Urbane   (Friday, 21 Jan 2005 00:49)

And I agree as well, they shouldn't have left good old Tom :-)

>>By Urbane   (Friday, 21 Jan 2005 00:50)

if you watch the interviews with peter jackson on the extended fellowship of the ring i think, he says that really didnt add anything to the story

>>By zeromenace   (Tuesday, 25 Jan 2005 15:10)

Tom could hold the ring without it effecting him and in the books gandalf says that he would of probaly lost it or someting like that. Tom could of destoryed the ring so easily but probaly would of got killed on the way. and do you know what i hate the most, the way the elves gave up on man even after they destoryed sauron and also why did the noldor have to destory isle of numeror, ok men where coming to valinor to take immortality for themselves because they didnt understand why the should die and the noldor live forever, but frankly what where they going to do, they where hardly going to attack the noldor and kill them all and how can you take immortality thats stupid. Frankly i blame the noldor, like why couldnt mortal man walk upon the undieing lands what are they hiddening and why was Earendils elros given the longest life,and why did there ages wade after him.. and i dont understand was elros choose to be mortal and why he didnt become half elf like his brother elrond thats abit silly,personnally if i had the choice elf all the way!!!!

Finally Tolkien 4ever !!!!

>>By zeromenace   (Wednesday, 26 Jan 2005 15:19)

Do you know what i always hated, it took tolkien was it 30 years to make lord of the rings and all the other books but in the end he never got them finished and even before he died he was still making up stuff for it.

Finally as always Tolkien 4ever!!!

>>By zeromenace   (Thursday, 3 Feb 2005 12:43)

holy crap i seem to be the only true fan left in this room hmmmm thats not good at all.....
i wonder what would of happened if bilbo had of kept the ring would he of went rivendell as he planned and would the elves take it of him, and i thought it was unfair they way they cut bilbo out of the council of elrond in the movie, they only gave him a small part with frodo....

>>By zeromenace   (Tuesday, 8 Feb 2005 13:52)

Well, the short time with Frodo was scary enough as it is... Hehe... I think it was enough.

>>By Urbane   (Wednesday, 9 Feb 2005 00:09)

yeah it was a kool bit, it kinda showed that the ring was becoming powerful and the real hold it had over bilbo!!!!

>>By zeromenace   (Wednesday, 9 Feb 2005 15:36)

Have either of you read The Hobbit. If you haven't you should because it was what happened with the ring before it got to Frodo. And it also explains some of the things that happen in the Lord of the Rings, and characters and all that good stuff. But its a really great read you should get it some time.

>>By Kandace   (Wednesday, 16 Feb 2005 02:33)

of course ive read the hobbit twice to exact and its a sweet read, and let me tell you kandace i am the master when it comes to lotr trivia. anyway the hobbit is just the tip of the iceburg like if you havent read the Silmarrillion or unfinished tales you shouldnt even be here because they show the real genius of tolkien. The silmarrillion is unreal and unfinished just fills the beautifuls gaps and adds more story and gives the real story of the creation of the ring and the real story of Isildur anfd not the way peter jackson showed!!!!

>>By zeromenace   (Wednesday, 16 Feb 2005 12:58)

i never understood why the time of the elves in middleearth had to end, like why is that the elves did nothing important after the fall of suaron in the second age. like they didnt really multiply in numbers or anything not since really the end of the first age and the beginning of second when elrond was born....

And one has to wonder, was middleearth the only country in the world ??

>>By zeromenace   (Monday, 28 Feb 2005 11:37)

i must be the biggest tolkien fan on earth... I cant remember now but what ever happened to arwens mother, did she go to valinor??? and why didnt awren go across the sea with leoglas after aragron died the eldar may have let her in and gave back her immortallty,

its so sad they way she died so alone!!!!! and its funny the way elronds sons also wanted to stay behind, like elrond doesnt seem to have much power over his kin, its not right they had to lose there immortality because elrond left they should off had a choice to stay immortal and then later go to valinor after aragron died

>>By zeromenace   (Tuesday, 1 Mar 2005 16:48)

Also here is another question i have being alot lately, kind of a addon to my previous post, if sam and gilmi where allow to go to valinor why didnt arwen go, cause she use to be an elf so she would have more right to go there, ok she didnt have to get her immortality back but at least she could of died happy and with her father and mother.... its not right... and also will something reply to my posts i feel im ther only tolkien fan left in the world!!!!

Tolkien forever.....

>>By zeromenace   (Thursday, 3 Mar 2005 11:43)

being the last remaining tolkien and true lotr fan in the world well in this forum i must ask another question, ok in the appendix of the return of the king and if i can remember rightly unfinished tales its says that suaron's body was killed in the great fall of the numeror and then his spirit travelled back to middleearth on a dark wind or something like that and then he could not take a beautiful form again in front of man! was it b4 this he made the one ring or was it after he came back to middleearth and if that is the case how did he trick the elfs in showing him how to make the one ring when he could only take evil form but he couldnt trick men. I probaly got my times mixed up!! someone please help cause its doing my head in!!!!

And someone reply to any of my posts.......... you can really tell a true fan if he is still talking and asking questions after all the movies are finished!!!!

forget about the movie for a moment and look back to the books
someone reply i feel so alone posting here

Tolkien rules!!!!!!

>>By zeromenace   (Friday, 4 Mar 2005 11:51)

i wish someone would reply to my last 5 posts.... I have now proclaimed myself king of the tolkien forum!!! heres another question for you true fans if any are left.... i cant beleive the men of old after the fall of sauron didnt kill all the remaining orcs after the first war after the ring way taken from him, he wouldnt of had the power to make more i dont think.suraman had that power!!!! Like i cant believe that after the great war as it states in unfinished tales a great host of orcs that did not know of the fall of there master attacked Isulidur who at the time beared the ring and took them down and killed everyone even Isulidur and then the ring was lose. but i cant beleive that orcs could kill all the great men of old and from what i got from the book the army that Isuldur had with him was pretty big....... also i didnt like the way pj showed Isudiur, making out that he was keeping the ring forever when on the way trip ( 2 years after he took the ring for his own) when he go killed he was making his way to rivendell to give the ring back to elrond, but he was killed on the way and the only one and thing to survive the battle was his son and the broken blade i think..... Shame on you Peter Jackson Shame


Tolkien Forever

>>By zeromenace   (Monday, 7 Mar 2005 14:13)

its amazing i have being posting here since the 16th of feb and still noone has added to this forum..... ok new question why do you suppose elrond let Isuidur keep the ring both when he had the ring in mount doom just when sauron fell and after!!!! its funny, in all fairiness the one ring was all the elves fault and sauron being a marier spirit from valinor.... sooo elrond should of fought Isuidur for the ring up in the mount of doom though he was the last great king of gondor or at least kept at him to return it to mount doom before he was killed two years after on the road to rivendell.. its makes no sence

>>By zeromenace   (Tuesday, 8 Mar 2005 16:47)

This is an interesting forum....have you read the Tolkien encyclopedia? Its pretty cool....it even has pictures!:D

>>By theoneandonlysoupie   (Wednesday, 9 Mar 2005 04:17)

at last a new post!! thank you theoneandonlysoupie... i though i was going to go mad in here talking to myself!!! yeah i think i ave, but i have read so much tolkien stuff its hard to tell!!! i suppose you couldnt answer some of my questions above???

>>By zeromenace   (Wednesday, 9 Mar 2005 11:46)

i cant remember now but in the silmarrillion what was the name of the elf that killed the other elf, the only death of a elf by another elf in the first age!!!!

>>By zeromenace   (Monday, 14 Mar 2005 13:39)

ahh incase someone was going to answer it but probaly not.... it was feanor...

>>By zeromenace   (Monday, 14 Mar 2005 21:08)

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