has anyone read the illiad...i've only just started and i wondered what ppls opinions of it were.

>>By madamecoffee   (Saturday, 18 Sep 2004 00:33)

No other texts in the Western imagination occupy as central a position in the self-definition of Western culture as the two epic poems of Homer, the Iliad and the Odyssey.I have read the Iliad in Modern and Ancient Greek (definitely prefer the original to the translation), and although it might take some time to get into it and to become familiar with the way its written, I consider it among the most fascinating works of literature.
But, I prefer the Odyssey, no doubt about this! ;)

>>By Gabriella   (Saturday, 18 Sep 2004 02:07)

I read the Illiad and the Odyssey at university. They're beautiful epics, but there are different translations. Some are better than others. Someone on one of my email discussion lists recently recommended the Richard Lattimore translation.

>>By Mikey_Canuck   (Saturday, 18 Sep 2004 16:19)

I just realised I misunderstood my teacher....I have to study the Odyssey not illiad....opps :p thanx for the suggestions guys and i'll try to get a hold of the lattimore translantion :)

>>By madamecoffee   (Tuesday, 28 Sep 2004 20:32)

The Illiad is a superb piece of literiture, nothing compares to it. and the Odyssey is even better.

>>By Gilbertus   (Monday, 18 Oct 2004 19:48)

I was just wondering if there might be any classicists here who might be able to give some tips about Lucretius in regards to the the Modernist Reception of that writer and his philosophy. I am particularly interested in his relation to the American poet, Louis Zukofsky. The only reason I am entering this request into a room devoted to Homer is because (obviously) I thought there might be some knowledgable persons who would frequent this area.
Thanks and
I remain Yours in Letters ---

>>By satorotas   (Wednesday, 3 Nov 2004 21:14)

This is a more relevant inquiry which I am addressing to Gabriella in specific (but the group in general) . . . I was wondering if there might be a Homeric reading of Joyce's "Ulysses" which might illuminate how the theme of the shared bed of Odysseus and Penelope ie the "test" around the bed . . .has been incorporated into Joyce's "Ulysses" especially the "Ithaka" episode of the above work. I am addressing this matter primarily to philologists who might have some ideas about how Joyce alludes to the actual Greek of the original into his masterwork. Hoping the depth of this question has been clearly articulated above. I remain Yours ---

>>By satorotas   (Thursday, 4 Nov 2004 21:57)

WHY IT HAS TO BE THAT LONG...dying on it

>>By Ceres   (Wednesday, 22 Dec 2004 16:46)

I've read The Illiad and The Odyssey - both fantastic, I've studied them as well.

>>By litgirl   (Thursday, 23 Dec 2004 23:25)

i think that the Trojan war was in fact real, i mean he says most of his things in exact detail and everything, but shliemann (archiologist) lied about most of his finding in troy. he said that he had found the mask of agememnon, and Priam's treasure, and the jewels that Helen wore. but archiologist's today say that his finding were 2000 years to early to be in fact where the trojan war had happend. most archiologists said it had happend in 1187 b.c.e. But dorpfeld who excovated troy VI, is most belivable to be the real troy where the trojan war happend. any one else who has read about dorpfeld, plz message me!

>>By ghettogurl1468   (Wednesday, 12 Jan 2005 01:49)

i think he's quite good, uses similes well, has plenty of imagination, and the vocabulary to lay out his stall on the grand epic scale. Perhaps the use of stock epithets is a drawback to the reader, even though it did help him fill out his lines when reciting from memory and would sound better than it reads. But his writing has little to say to the ethnically non-European community and for that reason alone should be at best ignored or even, at worst, despised for being too insular. He was, sadly, a product of his time.

>>By willz   (Monday, 7 Feb 2005 20:25)

I forgot to say, the usual spelling is Iliad - one l.

>>By willz   (Monday, 7 Feb 2005 22:34)

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