Discussion: Saramago

anyone care to discuss narrative strategies of saramago?

>>By dionysus



I'd love to! Only problem is - I haven't read any of his books yet. Can you recommend a couple, so I can maybe add something useful to this discussion later on? Thanks.

>>By Sandman



well, sandman, try balthsar and blimunda, or gospel according to jesus christ, or the stone raft...

>>By dionysus



I can recommend you thouse two books of saramago:

" The gospel according jesus crist"

and " the year of yhe dead of ricardo reis".

They are really good!....

>>By theodoramaffat



in fact, all of saramago's books are good.

The siege of Lisbon is great,

if you can, get his early novel, the manual of caligraphy and painting,

of course, there is all the names, and Blindness.
My favourite, however, is the gospel according to jesus Christ..

>>By dionysus



You're right ,all them are very good.


But the one I most like is The Gospel; did you read

Baltasar and Blimunda?....Is really extraordinary!

>>By theodoramaffat



yes, I did read balthsar and blimunda...it was the first saramago novel i read...that is how i discovered him, in a dusty old second hand bookstore in Singapore..and I feel in love with him immediately..then it became an obseession to get all his books...and to begin the odyssey of learning about portuguese culture...

>>By dionysus



Hi Sandeman!

Did you find something about saramago all ready?

All the best.

>>By theodoramaffat



my first tentative step into this site; what a gem of discovery. dionysus, i like your grey matter. having just left hesse, it's good to bump into you again here, in this hall. would like to get nittygritty with saramago's narrative structures. having just read and been dazzled by 'blindness', i'll need to get another one or two books under my belt first, though. 'gospel according to jaycee' sounds like my next stop......unless persuaded into another choice by any jose-philes out there? the thing that struck me about 'blindess' was the sheer rawness of the text. it's sparked an interest in language of braille.....is there any connection between literary transmission through braille and the style of saramago in 'blindness'? just my thought....it would be interesting from a linguistic relativity perspective

aside from that....i'm very interested in learning a little more about the poetry saramago wrote for misia, that gorgeous singer of fado. any fans? any news on infomation, lyrics and translations on the words saramago wrote for her?

i'll come back when i've read a bit more

>>By footprint



footprint..
now you have surprised me... I had no idea saramago wrote for misia. I love misia's soul ands voice. But to have saramago write some songs for you. Indeed...pleas etell me more. I am intrigued by this news.

As for the next saramago read. I think, and here theodoramaffatt will agree with me, the gospel according to jesus christ would be an excellent vehicle. Evem balthasar and bliminda, and then the siege of Lisbon. saramago's earlier novesl awre historical fictions, you may have noticed, and while they are embroiled deep within the learned halls of intellectual historicism, they are also easily digestible, if you know what i mean...but then again, saramago's style is such a flowing style, such serenity, such intimacy.
Your comment about his narrative style and braille is an interesting one, though you wull find that he has written like that almost all hs life, except for his very6 early books. The manual of calligraphy and painting, for example has a very conventional narrative techinique, nothing like the books we have mentioned here

>>By dionysus



another interesting thjing about saramago, which I heard froma fellow admirer of his work...saramago is nt hs name...hsi real last name is sousa. but when his brother died, the dwtah certificate read Jose Sousa. So he had to change his name to Jose saramago.

I'm not sure if this is true, but my source is a full-time reseracher of Saramago's works..

>>By dionysus



i'm afraid the offering plate is cracked and dry, dionysus, for i have nothing specific on the misia/saramago collaborations. i only just heard of their collaboration together recently, from the fado-diva herself no less (she just performed in HK and macau.....what a spectacular performer she is....voice larger than life yet a personality capable of reducing even the largest auditorium to an intimate over-the-coffee-table chat). Immediately scouring my cds for jose's contributions, i found none. so i don't know on what albums he appears. but would love to know if anyone does find out...what are the songs and where do we get 'em?
btw dionysus, how have you found misia's most recent delights? i can't recall the name of the composer who's music she ornaments with her lyrics, but the feeling is one of softness and a little less, er, bitterly painful, than some of her other stuff. actually, she did explain how *the composer* and his music was not really 'fado' but that she considers her voice 'fado' and whatever music her voice takes on necessarily becomes 'fado', for that is who she is and how she transforms.

>>By footprint



I finished reading Blindness a few weeks ago. I loved the way he structured his sentences and paragraphs. Is this the way all his books are written (and/or translated into English)? Or did he do this specifically for this book? I could see why he might have done that, I think it really suits the situation the characters are in, not knowing who is saying what. But by the end, you know the characters well enough that you can almost tell who is saying what and what bits are only being thought even before he tells you.

I'm thinking of All The Names as my second Saramago, only because I saw a pristine-looking used copy for sale. Should I go for it or read something else by him first?

>>By Spiff



do you take the books only to have some fun in the free time or they mean something more to you? for me saramago's blindess is dreadfull...because people really are like animals. I'm reading it now and i need something else to make me believe again that the goud things in human are not dead

>>By alische



A general comment . . .this looks like a rather "lively" literary site . . .which makes it
rather attractive (given that I have entered remarks in 6 or 7 sites in this area with
no responses whatsoever . . .for months and months).
I can certainly heartily recommend "Gospel According to Jesus" . . .I read it quite
slowly and could certainly profit from reading it again . . .given that it's SUBVERSIVE
to the hilt. I tried "Blindness" once . . . found it quite powerful and unsettling . . .
it kind of hit something at the core of me . . .some "alien" . . .if that makes any sense at all.
I found "The Double" quite amusing . . .even thinking back on my experience while reading it . . . I have to laugh . . .Nietzchian laughter perhaps with a dab of Kafka . . . I really have not read any other Saramago books at this time . . . he doesn't seem to be usually all that witty . . . Harold Lloyd-ish or Buster Keaton-ish . . .but "Double" just had me beside myself with glee . . . POSITIVELY UNGLUED as some might say.
Quickly written and not proofed at all . . .
Time Time . . .is NOT what I've got plenty of . . .
The Sator (even)

>>By satorotas



try reading "blindness" and rightr after, "seeing"... it gets quite violent...

>>By Tiefkuhler



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