Discussion: Proust

has anyone read "In seart of lost time" by Proust

>>By maryloo



Yes, I read it years ago, in the original French version. As I remember it, and Proust goes a long way with a little remembering, it is very impressive in a soul searching manner. I used to joke that lost time was a metaphor for the elusive kiss the narrator's mother would give him. Now I feel another reading of Proust is essential, except one must find time to do so...

>>By Noudjali



I'm reading Tadie's big bio of Proust. It's fine except that it leaves out certain things. I'm at around p. 275 and there's a suggestion that Proust's mother understood that her son was gay, and acted accordingly. But there's no discussion of the subject, and remarkably little direct discussion of Proust's homosexuality.

Is there a bio which deals with this subject more openly and frankly?


I'm reading Swann's Way on tape as well as in hard copy. Does anyone know if the other novels are available on tape as well.

Thanks.

>>By 3Chez



I guess Edmund White's Proust bio would be more into his sexuality, though I haven't read it. I've only read Proust in translation, though I read his biography by his maid "Monsieur Proust" (ghost written by someone else) in French. She denies that he was gay but there's something about her book that makes it clear she isn't neccessarily to be believed.

>>By teejayoh



What does anyone think about Proust's use of the comic mode as it allows him representational distance in exploring the then partly forbidden matter of homosexuality...?

>>By mathu



In his first book, wrote about, wrote about . . . .

>>By junglebetti



Dear Group ---
Just thought I'd drop a line to everyone here. I read through "Rechercher" one time about a decade ago . . . and now reading the whole thing aloud to a bedridden friend . . . we dissect the sentences on occasion . . . and, in general, enjoy the experience immensely . . . We are currently in the 2nd Volume . . . there are many digressions as we discuss what is occuring in the novel(s). . .I also into Joyce, Beckett, Musil, Mann etc. For some reason I don't think that Joyce & Proust are all that compatible . . . of course the "middle man" for me is Beckett a la his book on Proust . . . "The Proustian equation is never simple." For those of You who don't recognize that sentence, it's the opening one in Beckett's study of Proust . . . short but pithy in my opinion.
If there is a real thematic linkage between Beckett and Proust . . .[philosophically?] than I do often prefer Beckett's condensation of the matter.
Hoping that there's something in the above comments which might stimulate further discussion . . .
I remain ---
Your humble literary servant ---
Sator

>>By satorotas



Please excuse the occasional "error" . . . missing articles etc
in my above comments. Thanks.
Sator

>>By satorotas



Ive never read any of his work but I recall a logic professor quoting Proust once on the usefulness of logic in sound argumentation. It sounds like Proust was a literary giant but was he also a philospher,poet, artist?

Ive heard of the idea of tracing memories back to early moments. Im curous whether Proust made differentiations between memories from direct and recalled experience and memoreis which have been told. For example, I don't recall swallowing two pennies as a very young child but my mother insists it happened. Would this kind of memory be discounted as unreliable or can a witness be useful? Is useful, is there a criteria for credibility? Just some questions that came up from reading the board.

>>By Hume Ungus



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