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And Lynn makes a good point, that's been made before and you've never said anything back to it. Except things you've already said.
And yes, I have been drawn back to the jackboard. But maybe only temporarily.
>>By Flagg (Thursday, 7 Dec 2006 23:42)
opportunity ....malls ....land ...business ....cars......relocating ....california ...best .....america .....greatest country .....waterskiing .....money ....partying ....couldn't survive out here ....beaches ....
You know what ???
I can't actually think of something more dull than going to a mall or a party.
Opportunity ???
You know - I wonder how many people living in the ghettos of L.A have these "opportunities". But you know what - they're better for it. If you enjoy indulging in these "opportunities" then go right ahead - delude yourself into thinking you've got it all - that the whole world envies you - but I think you'll find you are completley wrong. It is only the idiots of this world that want the things you want: who want the glamour & glitz of L.A and the partying & the socialising, the "wealth" - you know what it is ?? Fools Gold. What a cheap colour gold is anyway.
"I'm guaranteed not one penny of salary...no insurance offered to me, no one to prop me up. I do it myself. And when illness strikes, you recover, you work through it, you don't complain...you just try harder. No excuses....just plow ahead"
I'll tell that to all those third-world child-workers who have to sacrifice THEIR education so that they can feed themselves & their families (if they haven't already been killed by AIDs.... not helped by the fact that AMERICAN companies sell the drugs at what...$30 a pill)......
"You know what, one day you'll be able to go to L.A and be overwhelmed at the mindless waste of human intelligence."
>>By Tchock (Friday, 8 Dec 2006 01:11)
Tchock
If I had written a reply for youm I would have said basically what you wrote.....which prooves my point.....you know not of what you speak.....and that is excusable for you.
Flagg
A great big Welcome Back to you.
Lynn
Is it possible that you unerstand the Southern California lifestyle about as much as I understand yours?
>>By lv2read (Friday, 8 Dec 2006 03:48)
PE
Pls reread YOUR last post....and YOU tell me why it is so pathetic? Would you like a hint??
>>By lv2read (Friday, 8 Dec 2006 06:24)
Thanks for the welcome.
>If I had written a reply for youm I would have said basically what you wrote.....which prooves my point.....you know not of what you speak.....and that is excusable for you.
That's a bit half-hearted. You haven't proven your point to *me*.
I was kind of hoping for a response to my first post back. Oh well. I know it's hit and miss on this board.
Los Angeles is a fascinating place, I would love to go there.
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>>By Flagg (Friday, 8 Dec 2006 12:10)
<If I had written a reply for youm I would have said basically what you wrote>
Meaning that you agree with what I said ????
Come on lv2read - I'd like a half-decent reply. Go on - make me laugh by rambling on about how the rest of the world's just slackers compared to South Californians. Say how everything's rosy in california & everyone else's goal should be to live in a place just like L.A.... but never as good as the real thing, because California is full of AMERICANS (no no... not hispanics of course ;) ) & AMERICANS have something no one else can parallel because they're AMERICANS & that's why they're the best.
How's that society issued cotton wool you're wrapped up in ??? Is it cosy ????
>>By Tchock (Friday, 8 Dec 2006 12:56)
Tchock
17-18 yr old girl not enjoying a party? 17-18 yr old girls not enjoying a trip to the mall? I believe there 'may' be 3-5 others in all of Scotland that feel such. Pls learn to chill.
Flagg
An 18 yr old man that doesn't want a muscle SUV.....have not met one previously till now.
Tchock
The 18 yr old I was referring to was a girl----not the guy that I've chatted with and likes Harleighs as I (we) do. He is a very nice person. However, did you read the earlier post where one of your cohorts (Biam or PE) trashed Harleigh Davidson as well as all things American?
>>By lv2read (Friday, 8 Dec 2006 21:53)
L2R:
Is it possible that you unerstand the Southern California lifestyle about as much as I understand yours?
It's not a matter of understanding ones lifestyles, it's understanding that your lifestyle (or mine) is not
THE ONLY lifestyle that matters or is appealing to someone else.
To go back to your post and adding comment:
The USA is the land of opportunity
- opportunity..to do what? To become rich? Not everyone needs to be rich to lead a fulfilling life
California is the brightest light in the land.....
- you really think everyone in California feels King or Queen there? You have no unemployed, sick, disabled and/or orphans there? No discrimination, drug addicts and drug victims, violence, victims of violence, mentally ill etcetera etcetera?
Where shopping reigns supreme
- not everyone thinks shopping is the ultimate use of spare time
purchase SUVs
- hard to believe but some are happy without a car or at least feel they should not add to the polution
vacation homes
- some people are perfectly happy with just one morgage
It is all here.....modern, gorgeous boulevards, exciting malls (by the hundreds), and more.
- It's not just there, it's everywhere. You think they're gorgeous, exciting. Some people think they're crowded, that there are too much of them, that they have killed the small shops (and their owners), that they have ruined nature or chasing people from their homes by powerfull development companies etc.
You two have done without so long that it seems appealing to you
- you base this on what...??
The government isn't going to relocate you to Newport, or to Triangle Square, or to Aliso Viejo, or Laguna Beach----you'll have to earn that yourself.
- Not everyone wants to earn that right, some are perfectly happy where they are
To escape your dull wretched lives
- patronizing and assumptious
And that is where we part company....neither of you could thrive here....
- Again assumptious BUT it's true that 'we part company' there. I'm not at all saying that you can't live your life the way you feel you have to and think it makes you happy. But try to understand that we are not all like you - nor do we want to be. THAT's the basis of this post.
whereas you'd be looking only for a handout, or would have a quick excuse for failure
- again not based on anything you know and assuming everyone wants to be like you
you'd never make it
- same same, see above
I work as hard today as I've always worked...
- I know that and it's an admirable thing. The fact though that it gave you wealth does not make you more succeeded in life than anyone else who has worked hard his whole life. In fact, I can admire people who work very very hard all their life just to the benefit of others, dedicating their lives to anything living that needs to be cared for and protected because they are vulnerable and need care, without getting and/or expecting big pay cheques.
I do it myself. And when illness strikes, you recover, you work through it, you don't complain...you just try harder. No excuses....just plow ahead.
- I know that too, but ‘no excuses’?? Is there really not a single reason you can think of some people are not able to ‘just plow ahead’? There are reasons, I wouldn’t call them ‘excuses’ since that implies those people are hiding behind unvaluable reasons.
I am in a land of OPPORTUNITY. It is all here!!
- It’s all there, I agree. Just not for everyone. I know you think everyone is in charge of their own destiny, you should know better.
This post is not meant to be negative, it's a last (!!) attempt to try to show you a different view on the world than your own.
>>By Lynn (Friday, 8 Dec 2006 22:13)
LYNN
We don't garden here....most that have gardens have gardeners. On a date, I have never had a woman bring up the topic of gardens, or mention the quiet after a snow....and I am sure that such a discussion would be interesting. I am comfortable with my lifestyle---which I have dearly earned---and I've felt that it has been degraded here...and I may be wrong about that. You must accept that cars are an important part of the landscape here and you will not have our respect if you say we must give them up. If I told you of the social importance of the malls for young people, and others as well, it would not ring credible to you.
Yes, we have differences. And, no, my lifestyle is not any less, or any more wasteful or decrepit than yours. And I am repeating myself here.
And your post is not taken as negative....ever.
>>By lv2read (Friday, 8 Dec 2006 22:28)
@I am comfortable with my lifestyle---which I have dearly earned---and I've felt that it has been degraded here...
What I am trying to show you that while you feel your lifestyle is being degraded (possible) you are doing the same thing to others - who simply have a different view of what's important to them and how they WANT to live their lives. And that there are others who simply do not have a choice.
If someone rejects your way of living it doesn't mean they are right or wrong - it just says that they don't want it for themselves. And it's only natural to try to persuade the opposite party to change their minds.
What's standing most between 'you' and 'them' is a difference in personal values on how this world is turning and how this effects the future of all living things.
Simply said: there are people who 'consume' and there are people who try so 'save' and since they have opposite aims it's hard to get along. It's a matter of interest and decency to explore each others views without turning discussions into nothing but verbal abuse and rejection.
And your post is not taken as negative....ever.
Thank you.
>>By Lynn (Friday, 8 Dec 2006 22:49)
Lynn, not only do I agree with you, I also now think you're a champion for the less clear-headed, the less articulate (ie. me and Tchock). Thank you.
L2R, honestly.
>Tchock
17-18 yr old girl not enjoying a party? 17-18 yr old girls not enjoying a trip to the mall? I believe there 'may' be 3-5 others in all of Scotland that feel such. Pls learn to chill.
Flagg
An 18 yr old man that doesn't want a muscle SUV.....have not met one previously till now.
That's so pathetic it's just funny. I can't believe you're serious, you're like a cartoon character. Have you seen in The Simpsons where Homer invents a makeup gun, and Marge goes 'Homer, women won't like getting shot in the face' and Homer says 'Women will like what I tell them to like!'
Well L2R, seeing is believing. I'm here, eighteen years old, male, educated and
I DON'T WANT AN SUV.
I HAVE NO USE FOR AN SUV.
I THINK SUVS ARE LAME.
Now are you going to accept what I've said? Or carry on telling me I'm wrong?
Ok, try this: there is a difference between the majority (ie, those consumers Lynn mentioned) and individual people. California, clearly, has already been sold to the majority. Now you're trying to sell it to individuals - you will have to use a different tactic.
Lots of people relocate to California. Woo-fucking-hoo, good for them. If you want to convince ME to relocate to California (and you certainly seem to) then do some research, find out about Californian martial arts schools and tell me, truthfully, they are more renowned and better quality than those of Japan.
>>By Flagg (Friday, 8 Dec 2006 23:53)
I did some research on my own so you don't have to. It appears that the most prolific (looking) martial arts school in California a) can't spell Jujutsu and b) stops for Christmas.
I'm not saying California is a *bad* place, merely that it's not for me. It could lavish me with SUVs and personal gardeners and beach parties, but those things aren't what make me happy. It's not for everyone.
>>By Flagg (Saturday, 9 Dec 2006 00:33)
Flagg
I've always believed that you didn't desire a SUV for the simple reason that you said so. And I don't know anything about the martial arts...in or out of California. And California no doubt would not sit well with you...so what?? It doesn't matter what I think...your preference is all that matters.
Lynn, I would phrase it differently, i.e. the world is made up of people that consume and conserve....but in varying ratios. How about the people that produce? How about the folks that provide money, that take the risks and provide venture capital, how about them? More and more people, more and more cars, more and more housing, more and more malls.....I am here for them. I am here for the consumer. We have a safety net for the less fortunate in our society....but we do not have a safety net for the lazy, those that blame everyone else for their problems, those that are not motivated to work hard, to work long, to work industriously. Without a doubt, a socialist system would be best for those like that.
>>By lv2read (Saturday, 9 Dec 2006 01:37)
<17-18 yr old girl not enjoying a party? 17-18 yr old girls not enjoying a trip to the mall? I believe there 'may' be 3-5 others in all of Scotland that feel such. Pls learn to chill.>
Going shopping is one of the most dull things to do in my spare time that I can think of. Since I've moved to the *big-city* I have been shopping four times - three of those being for a Birthday present for someone else. People are different - not everyone enjoys shopping - most people actually, if you really talk to them about it - find it really quite dull & frustrating. It's ok on the odd occasion - but half the time you're going to different shops selling the same shit under some label that you're led to believe gives it a certain "quality".
I - believe it or not - am my own person. I enjoy many things; most of which are not akin to what you might WANT your average teenage girl to be into. Shopping ain't for me - I can think of better things to do with my time. But I'm not the only one like this - so stop broadbrushing everyone with how you think they should be. Everyone likes different things - deal with it.
<If I told you of the social importance of the malls for young people, and others as well, it would not ring credible to you.>
Well if it's anything like here in Britain it's just a shelter over their heads, somewhere for them to hang about it - they're not doing anything - they're just hanging out - take the mall away & they'd do the same thing.
<The 18 yr old I was referring to was a girl----not the guy that I've chatted with and likes Harleighs as I (we) do. He is a very nice person. However, did you read the earlier post where one of your cohorts (Biam or PE) trashed Harleigh Davidson as well as all things American>
Harley Davidson, by the way. Helmet is a very very lovely person, by the way also. :)
The 18 year old being me ???
So..........what was the point in mentioning me/18 year old anyone ????
I did not read any post on here about anyone "trashing" Harley Davidsons or anything.........it may have been when I was "away". Ok - if you're on about cars/pollution & all that stuff..... well I'm not saying an outright ban on vehicles.......just slightly less when it could be avoided. People need to get to places - people need to carry stuff in their car - but people can also walk the one or two miles to the shops; people can also take public transport to work avoiding the congestion & traffic that would be created if they were to take their car. No one's asking you to whole heartedly give up your cars - I'm just expecting a little compromise. You have the right to be alive - but you also have a responsibility to the enviroment in which you live. If you cannot sacrifice even a few minutes of your time to walk to work or the shops or the train station then that says something very symbolic of the "Great American Culture" you speak so highly of. With right comes responsibility - the latter is sometimes obscured by your intense selfishness & greed.
California may be a great place to live. L.A's not for me though - it's too populated for a start - it's too ....... feigned & pretentious, I feel. I don't want half of what it has to offer. I don't want countless malls that sell the same shit; I don't want a blissful ignorance that seems to be apparent if you are anything symbolic of the people of L.A; I don't want an SUV, I don't want to look at the "stylish" cars on the road; I don't want a fancy boathouse; I don't want rich friends; I don't want a mansion by the beach; I don't want to be locked into a world that is not for me.
Five major personal goals for Tchock : Masters Degree in Electronic Engineering, Harley Davidson, to improve my guitar every day, to marry a man that loves me as much as I him, to have kids.
Not to be greatly rich - just comfortably - I don't want to be impoverished, but I don't to impoverish my kids with ignorance.......(and I don't mean academic ignorance.....). I don't want anything too extravagent - I don't want my life to be put on displayed for all the neighbours to look at in awe.
>>By Tchock (Saturday, 9 Dec 2006 01:44)
I'm sorry - are you living in the 19th Century lv2read???
You're views sound awfully Laissez-faire..............
Of course there are a lot of lazy sods out there who don't deserve help but a kick up the ass - but how many people are REALLY like that?? How many people actually just cannot achieve what you think they everyone can achieve??? There are some people out there who no matter how hard they work don't get anywhere in life - and they DO fall through the "safety net" !!!!
You're also contradicting yourself here
<And California no doubt would not sit well with you...so what?? It doesn't matter what I think...your preference is all that matters.>
Your tone in previous posts seems to be like you think Flagg & the rest of us SHOULD like California.......... because apparently everyone else does............ but if you have genuinely changed your mind..........I'm glad.
And I really DO reccommend that you watch the film Fight Club..........Flagg will tell you to read the book no doubt.......... :)
>>By Tchock (Saturday, 9 Dec 2006 01:51)
* I don't want my kids to think that they can take anything in life for granted either.
>>By Tchock (Saturday, 9 Dec 2006 01:58)
Tchock
No, I haven't changed my mind. I know that California is envied, despised, etc. by a large part of the US. Much of the North East view us as uncultured and state that most of what's bad and what's good seem to have begun in SOUTHERN California. For that matter, Northern Californians view us as vain, shallow and highly materialistic. The broadbrush us as though our community is an extension of Hollywood. (Do you think that I am the type of individual that stresses over what others think?) So, Newport Beach is for me, but definitely not for all. The Balboa Peninsula is for me, Newport Harbor is my playground, yet few can or will take advantage of all that it has to offer.
<<<Five major personal goals for Tchock : Masters Degree in Electronic Engineering,...>>>
Well we have something in common..sort of. My studies were in Mechanical Engineering and if I had it to do all over again, it would have been (as Cal Berkeley calls it) EECS...Electrical Engineering and Computer Science.
<<<... Harley Davidson,......>>>
I rode a Suzuki 850....purchased it for the shaft drive. If I could do that over again, I would have gotten a Heritage Soft Tail Classic and (I) would have taken the time to restore an Indian (motorcycle).
<<<...to improve my guitar every day,....>>>
Always wanted to play one.
<<<...to marry a man that loves me as much as I him, to have kids.>>>
Great....am delighted to read this. You'll make a great Mom.
>>By lv2read (Saturday, 9 Dec 2006 03:22)
Well I'm glad we're in agreement that California is not for everyone. Now we just have to get you to admit that not everyone in California is rich, and not every in California COULD be rich. But I'm not sure I'm up to that task.
Oh and yes, I would recommend Fight Club (the book and the film) to absolutely everyone, but I'm not sure you would understand it L2R.
>>By Flagg (Saturday, 9 Dec 2006 10:00)
Flagg
What is the theme?
>>By lv2read (Saturday, 9 Dec 2006 12:10)
It's about two working class Americans who start a fight club, where young men like them can go to beat the crap out of each other as a form of therapy. But the Fight Club turns into a legion of revolutionaries, and things get totally out of hand. I think the story is viewed as kind of a social commentary about materialism. There's a very dark, cynical tone to the book and the film.
>>By Flagg (Saturday, 9 Dec 2006 14:56)
work from home,mmmm which jobs/trades, lets see
mechanic..no, police..no, nurse..no, soldier..no, doctor..no, teacher...onlly if the students work from home too...mmm guess if you cant afford a means of media to interact with the teacher then no education, hotel staff..no, unless the hotel will house you and any family you may have, bus driver...no, airline pilot..no, dentist..no, construction worker..no, delivery driver..no, musician...no...unless you have a recording studio in your house or a front room big enough for an audience to hear you play.
I could go on but the list would be huge, so pray tell L2R what professions can work from home in the utopia you envisage?
>>By BushisaManiac (Saturday, 9 Dec 2006 21:13)
teaching from home ...........no no no no NO
even if the means of media was FREE
it would never work
no no NO
the teacher needs to be in the same place
as his/her students...........
as an aside............ in my old school, my headteacher informed me that the regional education director was thinking about replacing the teaching of maths & physics with an online resource funded by Heriot Watt university............. i told him that that would be the biggest mistake for education ever..... fortunately my headteacher quoted me on that & there were a lot of other protesters to the idea.......
working from home..............well it's harder than most people would think.............
i know someone who works from home
she's self employed (like you are lv2read)
but it's frustrating for her
it is VERY hard work
because she's not on a fixed salary.........
as well as that
she's confined to her own home for most of the day
so when she finishes work she's
stuck indoors still doing all the housework etc
there's a certain image concerned
with working from home
that those who do have it easy
but in fact it is way off the mark...........very far from it
it's lonely
it's frustrating
& being self employed only adds to the long list of
worries most people face....it's insecure..... you're doing
it ALL yourself......... some get "lucky", but most don't
& pulling yourself out of the shit is
very difficult compared to your relaxed attitude about it.......
how many professions could work at home ???
very few
accountants or business consultants maybe
but on the whole
no great number that would make ANY difference
to the traffic on the roads..................
>>By Tchock (Saturday, 9 Dec 2006 21:31)
lv2read - do you know if the
University of California (Berkeley)'s engineering
(especially electronic) department is good ???
I'm thinking of transferring there for a year....
A Softail ???
Ahhh... yes I've been on one of these.......... GOOD bike........... I really like...... the Sportster/ Super Glide/ Roadking/ V-Rod...... there's a Harley Davidson dealership right outside the engineering campus at my university..... always work a look-see at the new 2007 Harleys.....
<Great....am delighted to read this. You'll make a great Mom.>
Thank you :)
>>By Tchock (Saturday, 9 Dec 2006 21:43)
Did JJ post something that's been removed before I got a chance to see it?
>>By Flagg (Sunday, 10 Dec 2006 09:41)
L2R
"did you read the earlier post where one of your cohorts (Biam or PE) trashed Harleigh Davidson as well as all things American?"
No Not all things american, just american cars and bikes....
Harleys are ok as a fashion statement, otherwise they are heavy cumbersome, renowned for unreliability, expensive to maintain (service) slow and only good looking if you like that type of bike, I know cos I have ridden them and friends have owned them, i have also ridden BMW's, Honda's, Kawasaki's, Yamaha's (well one yamaha) and Ducati's
Now apart from Ducati who dont make the 'chopper' style of bike anymore all the others I have named do, but they also make commuters, tourers, sports and supersports, with harley you are confined to the boring same basic style, unless you buy a Buell and that aint a harley is it just a harley engine!!
As for american cars, just utter shite, square, ugly, plasticy interiors, huge engines (why??)
There are just three classic american cars that are worthy of note, one was a british design with a US engine, one had a british designer and the other was the original corvette stingray (not the longnosed piece of shite that resmbles a 1970's Opel GT)
hardly any young male in the UK wants what you call a 'muscle car' or SUV, if they like cars they want a small GTI type thing, or if they have ambitions then it'll be a mitsubishi Evo8 or something of that ilk, if they just want a car then its anything small cos thats all they can afford insurance wise!!
SUV's are for older fellas and suburban snobby mothers whom think they need a huge 4x4 car to take the kids to school on perfectly paved roads!!, and if you want a true world beating SUV then its got to be the original landrover as used by the military and farmers worldwide...oh and BBC wildlife camera crews in Africa ;-) we are introducing higher charges all round for 4x4 driveers in the UK, I just hope our useless government doesnt penalise farmers, forestry workers and others who use the venerable landrover as a vital part of their work!!
>>By BushisaManiac (Sunday, 10 Dec 2006 19:41)
BIAM
Well, guess what---we agree on a couple of things.
First, just why people get 4 wheel drive vehicles that never go out of Newport Beavh, or drive off road anywhere is a mystery to me. But you may be hung up on the socialist concept 'need.' I suspect that these people purchase them because they WANT them.
SUVs for old fellas?? You can't be serious. Many, many more youthful types purchase them. Again, why?? I don't know.
<<<hardly any young male in the UK wants what you call a 'muscle car' or SUV, if they like cars they want a small GTI type thing, or if they have ambitions then it'll be a mitsubishi Evo8 or something of that ilk, if they just want a car then its anything small cos thats all they can afford insurance wise!!>>>
You 'may' be right, but I don't believe you.
What are you saying about the Chevrolet Corvette? Again, google it and then tell me it is not stylish? 0-60 in 5 seconds...as fast as a Ferrari at less than half the cost. The incredible sports car for someone that can't afford 100,000 pounds to spend on a car. And there is something wrong with this???
>>By lv2read (Sunday, 10 Dec 2006 19:58)
Actually Harley Davidsons
are not unreliable anymore
In the 70s they were because they were taken over by
a non-motorcycle experienced company...........
Currently they are very reliable - but I think our
old friend wreckin krew could tell
from experience as he owns two Harley Davidsons
(i ain't old enough nor rich enough to own one yet !!)
&
some of us DO like the look of a Harley Davidson........
(personally i dislike all the "sportsbikes" & their style.... )
& some people DO like motorcycles that don't go TOO fast
it ain't all about seeing what speed you can do before
you kill yourself.
Yet again - down to a matter of choice.............
But i've no idea about cars..........I know what a Reliant looks like thats about it ;)
<I just hope our useless government doesnt penalise farmers, forestry workers and others who use the venerable landrover as a vital part of their work!!>
C'mon, BiaM - this IS the British government we're talking about ........... ;)
Where did this discussion go, by the way ???
>>By Tchock (Sunday, 10 Dec 2006 20:09)
L2R
yoou are talking US i'm talking UK, when I say old fellas with SUV's i'm talking 30 upwards, there are SUV's such as the Porsche cayenne, BMW x5 VW touareg (I think thats what its called) and a Volvo of similar looks, these are NEVER taken offroad and young couples may have them if they are affluent . Then there are the Landrover/rangerover set complete with green wellington boots barbour jackets and optional gundog!!
Then you have the toyota landcruisers, mitsubishi pajeros etc etc etc, a lot of people in my line of work, construction, have these, mainly I suppose for the same reason I bought my 4x4, they hold loads of stuff, they will go over any greenfield muddy construction site (dont get many of those though) and you can claim tax back on fuel...otherwise they are shite!!
And as for muscle cars, there are small GTI's such as Ford, VW, Peugeot 1600-2000cc fast as feck, good road handling, sporty looking but expensive to insure here in the UK. then there are the True sports cars derived from rally cars such as the mitsubishi EVO8 and subaru imprezia extremely fast extremly expensive to insure for a young fella.
then there are the traditional sports cars, Porsche, Lotus, Ferrari, TVR etc etc...ridiculously expensive to run and insure even for someone of my age. I am 41 been driving for 23 years and a 3.0lt Porsche 911 would cost me about £1000 to insure per year and a cheap Ferrari 308 GTS or Mondial over £1400, unless very affluent a lad of 20 wouldn't be able to get insured at all!!
So why dont you believe me?
As for the stingray, The first version was and is a true classic sports car the one you refer to is an ugly poor imitation when compared to an italian classic, regardless of cost!!
>>By BushisaManiac (Sunday, 10 Dec 2006 20:18)
tchock
"some of us DO like the look of a Harley Davidson........
(personally i dislike all the "sportsbikes" & their style.... )
& some people DO like motorcycles that don't go TOO fast
it ain't all about seeing what speed you can do before
you kill yourself."
Totally agree matey, I myself arent keen on Harley's however my Girlfriend wants a Yamaha Virago, and I must admit just between you and me, Virago's are bloody comfortable when compared to my Ducati, which makes me feel like i've been buggered, had my wrists mashed with a meat tenderiser and a neck which feels like a fully grown labrador's been perched on top of my bone dome!!
However I bought a 650 BMW off road bike the other week and she's quite taken to that so we might not have a big v twin chrome and tassel monstrosity in the garage after all :-)
and for me its not about speed anymore, just the ability to accelerate extremely rapidly when you need to, and thats true of my cars too, I have a 2.2 lt 4x4 i was stuck behind a truck on the motorway the other day doing about 55-60mph and couldnt overtake because all the cars in the fast lane were doinng 80ish and above, I didnt have the confidence in my car to pull out lest somebody cames driving through my boot to join me!!
where did the duscussion go? well......off on a tangent methinks!!
>>By BushisaManiac (Sunday, 10 Dec 2006 20:33)
BIAM
A little help...
bonnet = hood
boot = trunk
feck = f__k
one pound= $2 American (currently)
1000 pounds for insurance = you consider that expensive
in America insurance is priced by age, place where you live, car make, model/value and driving record....among other things. I live in Newport, drive a luxury gas guzzler (govt words not mine)British car, have no tickets or accidents and pay over $6,000 per year for insurance for that car....and it is 4 years old!!! If I am in an accident and it is not my fault, my insurance company nothing. It doesn't seem right....and if my car is in my locked/garage and it is stolen my homeowners policy pays......and if it is stolen at a place where I shop and the car was parked by a valet...again my ins co would not have to indemnify....and if it was stolen while at my building at my company.....my commercial policy would have to pay off. Methinks that I've been in the wrong kind of business!
>>By lv2read (Sunday, 10 Dec 2006 21:32)
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