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"how many scientists feel the need to refute Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny for example?"
He he I hadn't thought of that...... Oh I wish you'd turned up earlier!
>>By B.A.B.E.S (Friday, 13 Jan 2006 13:30)
"how many scientists feel the need to refute Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny for example?"
Hehehehe ...as far as I am aware no one has yet suggested teaching about them in "science" classes, or building a moral system around belief in them, maybe that explains the scarcity of serious refutation? Very droll though :)
>>By planet ear (Saturday, 14 Jan 2006 23:44)
Ummm, aren't presents every year absolute evidence of Santa? I thought the folks in here were scientifically inclined? Well, we cannot simply ignore the evidence that opposes our fundamental beliefs. Im ashamed of you all.
Well, I might be a bit too agressive in this instance, but hey, it just pisses me off that you "holiday" nutts from the left are trying to kill my Jesus on his birthday.
My father once told me that he envisioned Jesus to be the Santa for adults. The only problem is, adutls don't have anyone to tell them the truth after awhile. I suppose philosophers and scientists must take on that role. Unfortunately, like children who are finally told the truth, most adults will not easily accept the reality, and might resent those who have shattered their beliefs.
>>By Hume Ungus (Friday, 20 Jan 2006 20:51)
"Ummm, aren't presents every year absolute evidence of Santa?"
Hume, surely absolute evidence of Santas' presents not Santas'presence? ;)
>>By planet ear (Sunday, 22 Jan 2006 00:20)
Pure semantics then!
>>By Hume Ungus (Tuesday, 31 Jan 2006 20:28)
whatever happened to occam's razor you guys? isn't a simpler explanation that your loving parents/significant others have been providing you with pressies? I've always wondered why that was so hard to accept...
>>By Sarcophilus (Wednesday, 1 Feb 2006 14:14)
Simple must be int he mind of the beholder. For me, Santa is simple, fundamental, even necessary. Besides, my parents were always poor, so it would never be simple for them to provide useless crap every year. Santa, on the other hand, has an army of small slaves who have ben shaped and molded over the past 2000 years to at least appear content in their role as present makers for the good kids of Earth. Now if that isn't simple, then I cannot fathom what is.
>>By Hume Ungus (Friday, 3 Feb 2006 20:46)
Hehehe .... are they shaped by Santa for this special role or or do they breed and are subsequently selected Hume? ;)
>>By planet ear (Saturday, 4 Feb 2006 03:23)
Santa surely selects his slaves in a like manner to dog breeding. Interestingly, there may be a strong sexual influence in his decision-making. That, of course, is speculative, so I would prefer to stick to the facts.
>>By Hume Ungus (Saturday, 4 Feb 2006 22:12)
Ok....so tell me...
Given the millions (perhaps bilions: does Santa only give to christian children?) how does he carry all those presents in one sleigh (are we talking football stadium size here) or does he return to home base and refill a few million times? How does he deliver in only one night? is he travelling at light speed?
>>By Sarcophilus (Sunday, 5 Feb 2006 14:24)
see how disgustingly LOW all of your comments have become??? Don't discuss science or data or theory or anyalsis etc. no lets instead "Evolve" into a ID Creation-Christian" mocking site...See what happens when I leave you people? You've become very sad indeed...
>>By beanieweenie (Saturday, 11 Feb 2006 20:15)
beenieweenie
the discussion thread suggests that YOU introduced ID to a discussion of Charles Darwin. That is about as inappropriate as someone else walking into your bible study class and trying to divert discussion to the virtues of satanism(or evolution or socialism or whatever else your tiny mind has an animus against).
While it's obvious that your ability to actually contribute to a discussion of Darwin's work is negligible (from your earlier comments above it's unlikely that you've even read his theories let alone understand them) you then have the temerity to castigate other posters who respond to your dogmatic rantings with the contempt it deserves.
Are you for real?
Or merely a provocateur who enjoys drawing attention to themselves?
>>By Sarcophilus (Thursday, 16 Feb 2006 14:59)
It is laughable that one would choose to defend such a tradition as the one we must all hear about in late december. Granted, the discussion here may have become less scientific, and if there is a consensus that we should return to true debate, then so be it. But I personally do not want to be lectured by anyone who thinks that our respect for truth that may defy tradition, authority, or revelation, is somehow ill-informed or ignorant. Clearly the philosophical differences between the majority of the posters and beanie center around what we hold as methodoligically sound procedures for truth gathering.
>>By Hume Ungus (Friday, 17 Feb 2006 20:58)
Hey Beanieweenie--most rational people also laugh at the suggestion that Santa Claus is a real entity who delivers presents every Christmas. If you don't like being made fun of, quit believing in that which is patently absurd. I have no sympathy for you and I think your choice of screenname is most likely indicative of your eating habits, based on your photo. Maybe you should ask the Lord to put you on a diet.
There are plenty of fantasy websites out there where I'm sure you'd be welcomed with open arms. This board discusses a man of science, and thus will probably always be unkind to children and their fantasies.
You suggested we discuss analysis--like most ID'ers, you're demanding that we teach you science in a few paragraphs. It's too late now, mate. Your teachers failed you, and your own intellectual weakness doomed you. If you had any understanding of what actual scientific analysis meant, you wouldn't believe the crap you do. I'm sorry you're not immortal, and I'm sorry your ancestors didn't ride tamed dinasaurs to work. Go watch some more Flintstones and 700 Club, idiot.
>>By Just Jon (Sunday, 19 Feb 2006 00:46)
Dinosaurs, I realize that.
>>By Just Jon (Sunday, 19 Feb 2006 00:47)
Your scientific minds amaze and astound me HAHA! In the end I suppose we will see which of us is the proven fool....I know I will have no regrets for having believed in Jesus Christ...and attributing all things to His creative genius instead of placing my faith in one smiple 19th simpleton....awh well the truth is and never has been easy for fools to see. I hope you all find what you are searching for but I can assure you it is not found in Darwins fabrication "origin of the species" but in Gods Holy Bible instead. I won't distrub your silly discussing board again...small minds always revert to name calling and you have proven my point so thanks! Good by and may God have mercy on your sorry souls.
>>By beanieweenie (Sunday, 26 Feb 2006 18:59)
Beanieweenie,
I assume from context that the "one smiple 19th simpleton" (sic) you refer to is Charles Darwin.
"small minds always revert to name calling" So it would seem in this instance ;)
>>By planet ear (Monday, 27 Feb 2006 03:09)
She's right about one thing--once she's dead, she won't have any regrets.
>>By Just Jon (Tuesday, 28 Feb 2006 02:10)
Okay since science always has to be serious (for goodness sake don’t read the article in the British Medical Journal about the epidemiology of disappearing teaspoons, an occupational hazard in the lab tea room).
Can you actually believe in a theory? The evidence is there, you either accept it or don’t accept it there’s no belief what so ever really. It’s like any scientific theory you judge the results with your head, not what your heart thinks. Otherwise you could not believe in anything – photosynthesis, the immune system, anything with a theory behind it. It’s interesting that Darwin himself thought he might as well confess to murder as to his theory on evolution with the reception he knew it would get. It’s alright mate, DNA is supporting you!
[On the subject of teaspoons, in case you’re interested 80% of the teaspoons vanished, with a half-life of 81 days, and a loss of 360.62 teaspoons per 100y if you round it up.] Who says science isn’t fun??????
>>By B.A.B.E.S (Wednesday, 1 Mar 2006 14:06)
I may be worthy of religious pity, I will agree with that, but do you take the drugs the fools like me research and develop?
Do you rely on the antibiotic resistance research fools like me do to try and win the war against the superbug (and the ordinary bug to be less dramatic?)
Big headed but without scientists like Darwin, the human race would be nothing like as successful as it is.
Good grief I'm a bit on my soapbox today.......
Beth
>>By B.A.B.E.S (Wednesday, 1 Mar 2006 15:07)
You know something that really gets me about people like beenieweenie is their presumption that they have the franchise on what god does and doesn't like...can't even manage logic within their beliefs: one the one hand god is all knowing and we can't possibly understand why he does things (like allowing hurricanes to kill thousands) on the other hand his proponents always appear to know exactly how 'he' wants us to live/think/believe...I don't have a problem with someone believing in something that I don't but I can't help resenting their arrogance in assuming that they are somehow better than those that don't agree with them.
BTW beenieweenie if referring to people that disagree with you as "fools" isn't name calling then I don't know what is! Hoist on your own petard yet again.
>>By Sarcophilus (Sunday, 5 Mar 2006 04:59)
regardless of one's faith (or lack thereof), the fact remains that even the VATICAN has denounced Intelligent Design as a reasonable theory:
www.livescience.com
/othernews/060119_ap_vatican_id.html
God's own spokesman has given a thumbs down to ID, what about the rest of you God fearin' believers??
>>By trollop23 (Monday, 6 Mar 2006 21:16)
Ok...it's been awhile since Darwin was discussed on this thread....
I came across this article the other day that might give us some insight into the evolutionary process - at least a way of revealing how the mechanism might operate:
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/life/
mg18925394.700.html
It discusses the spread of an introduced pest - Bufo Marinus - Across the north of Australia and how it is the longer-legged specimens that are leading the vanguard.
>>By Sarcophilus (Tuesday, 7 Mar 2006 04:44)
Well, i read your comment, beanieweenie, and i guess you're right. The Bible is indeed a guide to feed life. The Bible (still) means, besides the Latin plural for 'book', Truth.
But when you deep out (more) the words and metaphores written in the Bible and the things Jesus spoke of, lots of them come close or/and get equal to the reactions and development that nature goes through. Sometimes very psychological and evolutional. Sometimes it's hard to avoid to compare with some conclusions in origin of the species of C. Darwin. And i think it's amazing that a man, living 2000 years ago, without research, without science and books had the love, logics and intelligence enough to understand life this much. A way of thinking not lots of people could comprehend, so our history has proved, but so be it.
I've read some things about the journey of Darwin with the Beagle and his discoveries on the Galapagos. And i think without him we would live in a complete different world and -who knows- maybe still being held in mental captivity by church.
>>By Sanvean (Tuesday, 11 Apr 2006 23:56)
Evolution or God? Let's ask the internet!
>>By Lime House (Friday, 14 Apr 2006 05:15)
Hahahaha, yeah-right. Quite sharp, would it give the answer or would it be ?
>>By Sanvean (Thursday, 20 Apr 2006 23:25)
Happy belated Easter to all...I celebrated a week later with the orthodox crowd (in my case fellow Greeks). Curious from a previous post concerning the Vatican's response and/or position on Intell. Design? Is it the current wording they disagree with, or the concept altogether? I would be very surpised were it the latter, considering the implications! If anybody is up-to-date on the current Catholic metaphysics, i would very much like to understand.
>>By Hume Ungus (Monday, 24 Apr 2006 19:59)
Mainstream science hits the public. After a weekend at the Hay festival (Wales' answer to Cannes and with books not films ha ha). Prof Steve Jones was there and below is the link to his talk or or a smaller version to be precise. A fab speaker and if you ever get the chance to sit in an audience I'd fully recommend it. Also his books - superbly written in plain English not techno jargon!
http://books.guardian.co.uk/hay2006/
story/0,,1785655,00.html
>>By B.A.B.E.S (Tuesday, 6 Jun 2006 13:29)
Sorry didn't even mention Charles Darwin!
>>By B.A.B.E.S (Tuesday, 6 Jun 2006 13:30)
"Sorry didn't even mention Charles Darwin!"
LOL How naughty ;)
>>By planet ear (Friday, 9 Jun 2006 03:10)
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