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I don't believe James Patterson wrote any op-center books. Tom Clancy wrote them. That is if you were refering to the same as I am. Clarify please. James Patterson has his hand in everything else though.
By. Droped-In
>>By DROP-IN (Saturday, 22 Feb 2003 16:19)
(Australia: 0256hrs 23/02/03) Look, you've got it all wrong. James Patterson was an Irish engineer who shot & killed two man-eating lions in Africa a while ago :) So is it the general consensus that Andy McNab uses ghost writers?
Another question for the gang, what is it (specifically) about Andy's writing that has caught your fancy?
I think he should get his hand in more film work -e.g. his work as a weapons handling advisor for the movie "Heat" so movies are a little more believable for anyone who has had any military or firearms training. Imagine if he had a hand in the making of his upcoming movie releases, both the storyline & the actual action sequences!! I suppose we can always hope.....
Take care guys, speak soon
>>By Paul R (Saturday, 22 Feb 2003 18:05)
Hi Drop-in - Paul R.
Your damn right about Op-center = Tom Clancy...I've read them, and missed that "VITAL" clue....((((slaps hand))))
Do you know I read the article, never thought to question it before scanning, copying, and posting to board.
Oh boy, that gives one of us - or all - the opportunity to write to Writers' News and point out their mistake: editor's e-mail address: derek-hudson@writersnews.co.uk
How do you mean (Paul R) - movies are more believable?
Do you mean because one can "see" the blood and guts, "see" the explosions (Hollywood must have, must do), "see" the wrath of war/terrorist situations, as opposed to reading about it?
Do I have a more vivid mind then, in that I see what I read in respect of battle, recce', and the technical/logistics of a mission!
What about Andy's writing proved to be the lure? The emotion factor! He fights it all way, surfing the crest hoping to hell it doesn't swamp him 'cos he might drown if he goes in deep...
>>By buddy (Saturday, 22 Feb 2003 19:27)
Sa, Feb 22, 2003 (3:15pm EST US)
WOW, we’re up to 4 now, and we have a new poster too!
Re: Realism or Realistic... “Believable” in terms of things being portrayed the way they are actually done/happen – not necessarily realism as in blood and gore, but rather a case of being more realistic – meaning nuts and bolts how-to's along with the occasional cling film. Even Andy comments on the way things are portrayed in the movies vs. what really happens in real life. A few instances:
"In films, the attacker puts his hand over his target's mouth and with one smooth motion runs a knife into his heart or along his neck and the boy just drops. Unfortunately it doesn't work quite like that. ... In reality, you have to get hold of his head, hoik it back as you would with a sheep, and .... (Bravo Two Zero)
"If only room clearing were as easy as Don Johnson made it look in Miami Vice… If there's a guy waiting for you there with a shotgun, you're dead." (Remote Control)
The flash of a 53 when fired "...it's the only weapon I'd ever seen that looks like the ones you see in films." (Crisis Four)
"Arnie and Bruce would go in and take on a dozen bad guys at a time, but it doesn't work like that for the rest of us: against a dozen people, you die. (Crisis Four)
"You can't just whip a head around to break someone's neck..." (Crisis Four)
Re: What is it about Andy's writing? Realistic (see above) and 1st person melding of AM and NS, actual facts woven into and throughout fiction, the person behind persona. And I agree with Buddy about the emotion factor – conflicted emotions on all fronts (denial, betrayal, trust, shame, love, separation) and fear of what closer self-analysis may actually reveal. And one other thing I very much enjoy – so much of what he writes is actually an education, everything from the effects of hypothermia and dehydration to defeating motion detectors, turning a soda can into a weapon, and how to make the most of your Wal-Mart shopping trip...
Re: Ghostwriter No, I am not part of that consensus – all his books are written with the same voice. Someone who corrects his grammar, yes, definitely; but not a ghostwriter. Plus I find it very difficult to believe that someone who has managed to change wives so often would actually have managed to find and maintain a permanent relationship with the same ghostwriter since the very beginning… (grin, wink)
Re: Op-Center Good catch, Drop In! Blew right past me too; darn that attention deficit! And I read Clancy, but not Patterson (at least not yet)...
Re: Patterson and lions Paul, this went “whoooosh” right over my head. – please explain -- although I guess I’m probably asking you to kill a perfectly good joke…
Re: timestamps Mid-way down pg 2, MG posted about timestamps. Before registering, I asked specific questions which MG answered (http://www.gnoosic.com/discussion/gnod+community.html). For now, the timestamp shows as German time. “Country” (per Buddy’s suggestion) is not included, but, then again, maybe that kind of info should remain elective. For non-registered folks, I’ll try to remember to include this info at top of my posts.
'Nuf for now, e-chatter again soon…. (Sunday, 23 Feb 2003 02:43)
Darn, attention deficit again! -- forgot to sign name...
>>By am-i-binned (Sunday, 23 Feb 2003 02:45)
(Australia-1404hrs 23/02/03)
Hiya! Buddy -How do you mean (Paul R) - movies are more believable? What I meant was that 99.9% of movies action scenes are portrayed so badly it's quite hard to watch. I'm a bit of a pain in the arse when I'm watching war flicks etc because I sit there saying "Oh come on!! that rifle doesn't fire like that", or "how much noise do you want to make on your "stealthy" approach". Stuff like that. And I can think of many cases where I'd loved to get my hands on those special Hollywood magazines that hold infinite rounds before you get the dead mans click. But with people like Andy taking control of weapons scenes like in the movie Heat, it becomes a lot more realistic. For example in that movie Andy obviously told them their magazines do actually run out & the actors are seen changing mags, they have weapons stoppages etc. Even down to the point that the good guys have to watch their background before firing where the baddies just open up. And the goodies actually get shot & bleed & die (classic example of this in Con Air when Nic Cage is shot at about 2 metres but keeps walking like it doesn't hurt-yeah good one numb-nuts). Andy has also done a bit of work in the correct way to hold, carry, aim & fire the weapons with the actors too because it looks quite believable.
Sorry for the long winded response of that Buddy. I just get quite excited when an action flick doesn't become a total joke for me to watch, and who better to add to the realism than one Andy McNab!
am-i-binned, the joke about Patterson & the lions was woeful anyway so I'm not ruining anything explaining it. "The Man Eaters of Tsavo" or the film "Ghost & the Darkness" is what I was refering to. Lame I know, but you get that on the big jobs :)
take care guys, speak soon
>>By Paul R (Sunday, 23 Feb 2003 05:15)
Su, 23/2/03 (12:28am EST) US
Hi, Paul. Okay, I get it -- Col. John Patterson! Got hung up on James.
Your explanation of believability and realistic portrayal is exactly the quality I was talking about. I know absolutely zero to judge such "action scenes" but I've read a good number of comments on boards and in newsgroups, similar to yours, praising the authenticity of the action scenes in Heat, particularly among postings from current and former military, people like yourself who know what they're talking about. And, after a point in movies even I know the hero/villain couldn’t possibly manage such feats in the real world; i.e., endless gunfire, nonstop running/jumping/climbing at top speed but barely winded, severe pummeling yet barely dazed!
Again, reminded of B20: "We stood up as they charged into the cell. They could kill us with those batons: it only takes a good twat around the head to do the business. In the films the hero gets beaten unconscious, then comes to a few minutes later and goes off to save the world; but in real life if you put your arm up to defend yourself it will be broken."
It's Andy's understanding of that reality which gives him the advantage of authenticity. Plus, I also think he's quite proud of his unique knowledge, part of why he describes so much in such detail, like a teacher imparting knowledge.
Curious: In the left-hand column I see the US version of Liberation Day showing a release date of 04/2003. I think it displays US books because I'm in the US and the link is to Amazon.com (the US site). Buddy, do you see only the UK books and Amazon.uk.com? Paul, what do you see for Australia? Lynn, for Holland? Swedish reader, for Sweden? MG, since you stop by here sometimes, would you mind explaining a little how you have this set up?
This also leads to another question -- I know the UK and US have different cover art for all of Andy's fictions. Are the covers unique in Australia, Holland, Sweden, and elsewhere, too?
Now that's really enough outta me for tonight -- so 'til soon....
>>By am-i-binned (Sunday, 23 Feb 2003 06:42)
Sun 23 Feb - 12.50 (GMT) UK
Confucious say: Grasshopper step backward stand safe in last footstep!! = I'm working reverse order through minefield postings...
Am-i-binned: There ain't no Gnod time stamp showing on my puter screen - so tell me how to see it if there is one! Posting of 'country' is kinda nice (friends from around the world as opposed to same country cliquism often found on other messageboards) newbies able to join in without fear of being treated like scabby wallflowers...
Ghostwriting is less noticeable in 1st person narrative... Second paragraph page 11 -1st chap "Crisis Four" reads: If Damascus had had the slightest clue about what was about to happen aboard our British Airways flight from Delhi...
____ if ghost-written it's bad = tandem "had" and twin "abouts" in one para - tongue-twisting if reads aloud.
"had had" often works in literary masterpieces, but even then it has to glide across the tongue in like manner to runny cream across a strawberry...(fluid poetry in motion)
Andy's not a 'had had' voice, and I reckon he'd trip over his tongue on the above particular sentence. Split 'had' is more his kind of street. I hear him saying without expletives: Had Damascus had the slightest clue on what was about to happen aboard our British Airways flight from Delhi... After all, the sentence is mid para not lead sentence...
Henry VIII comment - Am-I-binned: makes Andy sound like a dog dodging traffic on lamppost quest as though in fear of having missed one...
Paul R: I'm with you now on "reality factor". Sorry, I posted instant reply on site instead of C&P off-screen for indepth analysis...
Yeah, Hollywood bang-bang is fairly predictable in all categories/genre...Like the baddies never shoot straight and the goodies have 'guided' bullets = impossible shots...Pure fantasy, but then, the average non-expert munitions-minded person, (looking to escapism through movies) goes for the entertainment factor. Precision factor of velocity, wind speed, and sights ajustment to both the above for a sniper (hit-man) not in the brain-scope of most non-military persons. Movie-goers rarely notice wind has changed direction in what is so obviously a retake/remake of second scene same set with billowing smoke!! And, that sort of thing happens more often than not in films, same as actress wearing specific items: then not (jewelry, scarves tied/untied etc)
Big two-page spread (News of the World - today) on how Chris Ryan thinks the next Gulf War will be executed!! Still can't get my head round why any person who was shafted by the News of the World can turn round and accept tea and biscuits from brown fingered journos...
Keep talking, I'll catch up with you all in a few days...
>>By buddy (Sunday, 23 Feb 2003 13:59)
(Australia 2332hrs 23/02/03)
Am-I-Binned (love the name by the way, meant to tell you on my first posting), the covers I see on my left don't look familiar to me at all. They're not available Down Under that I've noticed. And yep I agree about the teacher imparting his knowledge comment, he makes me feel like he's talking directly to me in my language. In fact I began writing a piece a while ago based (loosely) on a job I was involved in until one night I actually gave it over to a friend/colleague to read & he came back & said "we talk like Mcnab" and I realised that people could take it as a direct steal from his work. Bit of a bugger, but yeah I had to agree. He writes the way I speak & think & I feel as though I could close my eyes & hear Staff I've had teaching me the fine arts of demolitions & Wal-Mart shopping. I truly hope he continues to write for the rest of my days under the sun. I dread the day there's no more Nick Stone adventures to follow.
And am-i-binned, now that you've read Andy's collection, you know more than zero on how to judge "action scenes" :)
Buddy, (& everyone else) do you think Andy will have a hand in controlling the weapons handling etc for his movies? Fingers crossed hey?
"any person who was shafted by the News of the World"- what do you mean Buddy?
So how many of you are budding writers?
take care guys, speak soon
>>By Paul R (Sunday, 23 Feb 2003 14:55)
P.S. I'm just typing the time/date in the top myself.
P.P.S. just read page 1 again, that Paul wasn't me.
>>By Paul R (Sunday, 23 Feb 2003 14:59)
(Australia 0046hrs 24/02/03) yeah, yeah, I know, 3rd posting tonight, but hey, you guys interest me.
I've just been reading the allreaders message board & you guys have just earnt some brownie points with me. Am-I-Binned, you handled yourself quite well with DTO's messages, and Buddy.......hahaha! If words could be loaded & fired....."magic bullet" responses. I like it. And Lynn, nice diversion tactics, I'd take you guys on board anytime.
Enough said about that.
Buddy, SAS widow? Sorry to hear that. Chin up hey?
take care guys, keep smiling.
>>By Paul R (Sunday, 23 Feb 2003 15:55)
20.00 (GMT) UK
I promised myself I wouldn't come back here for a couple of days - trying to avoid addiction to this particular message board!!
By all accounts, Andy is co-producer (excutive producer) for the movie "Crisis Four", so that should ensure reality factor on a par with "Heat".
But, what's in a title anyhow...I mean, garbage men are now referred to as "Waste Execs" Special (K) agents are, in certain circumstances, out to flush'em quick, too!!! Oh, excepting when Imodium bound, and weighted down with cling-film parcels...
Chris Ryan shafted by NOTW: expose on his sexual performance as relayed by kiss & tell artiste - apparently he's quite a stud performer!!!! Anyone got his number (?) He reckons the Gulf War is going to be a piece of cake, that Saddam's army are just waiting to surrender. I'd like to put a bet on with him that he might be wrong, and I'd suggest everyone to watch out for a Trojan Horse!!!
What do you quantify as budding writer?
>>By buddy (Sunday, 23 Feb 2003 21:22)
Hey guys,
Yep Buddy, I get what you're saying about NOTW shafting Chris, and yep I agree with you disagreeing with him on Saddams army.
By budding writer I mean have you written anything be it a story, a poem, a song, you name it! If you've got something you wouldn't mind me reading, send it on!
By the way, K's in Australia are Kytes (deniables, cut the string).
The Imodium comment gave me a good chuckle, thanks! Ahhh, memories.....
take care guys, speak soon
>>By Paul R (Monday, 24 Feb 2003 12:36)
I meant "Kites" not "Kytes". shocking spelling effort there on my behalf. Fire at will.
>>By Paul R (Monday, 24 Feb 2003 12:37)
Tu, 25/2/03 (10:00pm EST US)
Hallo All!
Need to nit! But must skip back several posts to do so....
Buddy, I'm thinking if you don't hear Andy's street voice saying "had had" or using "about" twice within the same sentence, maybe it's because he's been hang out with us US folks for too long. To split the "had had" would be the correct literary and grammatical structure, but definitely not the natural spoken structure. Much, much more natural flow the way it's written in CF. Over the last 20 years, the trend in literary writing has shifted away from proper grammar; emphasis now is placed on "recreating" spoken structure rather than strict adherence to and enforcement of the rules; e.g., the rule about not ending a sentence with preposition is one that we're all familiar with. (wink!)
Personally, I think much of what I enjoy about Andy's writing is its natural flow -- natural, at least, in terms of everyday speech patterns prevalent here in the US. Now, if we wanted to talk about his use of local idioms, that would be a whole nother matter....(as opposed to another whole matter). (wink, wink!)
So, in confusion, just let me say, irregardless of country of influence, I does be likin’ hiz stuff lots! (good grief, is that a wink or a severe eye twitch?)
PS: Andy hasn't been in the US enough though or else he never visits real houses where regular US folks live! He consistently makes the same mistake about US houses/homes. Anybody know what it is or want to venture a guess?
>>By am-i-binned (Wednesday, 26 Feb 2003 04:17)
Wed 26 08.40 (GMT) UK
Thanks Paul R., for the brownie points....Never fancied the brownies/guides, all pocket knives and "dib dib" ma'larky, so joined ST John's Brigade (nursing/first aid) We were more popular with the navy scouts at youth rallies and such!!! Guess it was all to do with our little white hats and black stockings...
Always did like flying kites! So, are you set to follow the trend of book writing K' - tell all not, but just enough to upset relevent MoD?
Oh Am-I-Binned, shame on you Americans for letting slip into Enid Blyton reading class...How often do you say "had had" in a day?
See, when you start talking "idioms" this is where I come back to the point (made before) about Brit writers expected to not only spell (US English) but also to preferably refain from usage of uniquely BRIT/AUS/ phrases/captions/jokes even...Why then, cannot American writers/publishers see fit to bend to (UK/International/English) within books to be marketed here? Again, I point out the fact that we English/Aussies/South Africans, rest of world., as a whole, are more in tune with American ideals/lifestyles/language...The same cannot be said of most Americans: message boards alone point to US citizenship' having little savvy on foreign politics/history etc., yet much of old Europe is their legacy/family tree!!
How many Americans know where Scotland and Wales are situated on the map without looking them up first? How many know that S&W are countries in their own right with their own languages: Gaelic/Welsh? Does anyone know anything about Owen Glyndwr - the first man to set up the first ever system of democratic parliamentary rule in the British Isles. Probably not, but they might just have heard about Merlin (mythical figure). Do Americans know where Cornwall is, know that it too has its own language?
That rather strange language in the Lord of the Rings - all the buzz on message boards - was based on the Welsh Celtic language...Tolkien spent a lot of time in Wales, he loved the mountains and much of what he saw is there, in the books. One has to remember The Lord of the Rings happens to be just one of three books: there's The Hobbit & The Silmarillion! The Hobbit should be read first, then LoR, then TS...All the books are literary works of art...
Andy McNab and American houses(?) If he's hanging out with Americans as much you say on the Americanisms angle, then I guess one could say he's too busy promoting himself and no longer absorbing essential data!! A "Special K": "in and out" like seeing but not seeing, like hearing but not hearing, like not giving a flying f**k as to how Americans really live so long as they "buy" him!! He courted America to milk Hollywood, only he was diddled by his agent/s who tripped over the step and dropped the copyright bottle!
OK, tell us what he failed to hoover up on the house dust front!
>>By buddy (Wednesday, 26 Feb 2003 10:46)
above was 08.40 when I started, ha, ha. So much to think about........
>>By buddy (Wednesday, 26 Feb 2003 10:48)
W, 26/2/03 (6:48am EST US)
Ouch, Buddy! You've been hangin' around with some of my poorer relations too much I see -- they're rubbing off on you! If I had had any idea that that would happen, I would have asked them to settle down and clean up their act so they didn't get under your skin so...
Won't reveal 'til others have played... it's a funny error, totally structural....I like knowing that he doesn't know....
'til soon....
>>By am-i-binned (Wednesday, 26 Feb 2003 12:53)
(Holland – 26th Febr. 2003)
Hi ! Glad to be back, lot of catching up to do…
Re: Paul: So is it the general consensus that Andy McNab uses ghost writers? I never thought about it really. Only recent I found out the concept. I knew other people writing about (famous) people, but not famous people using mind and hands of (ghost)writers to say what they want to say.. It feels a bit like cheating. But I could think of reasons to use ghost-writers. If we look good on a movie screen it doesn’t necessarily mean you have the skills to TELL the world how good you are and how you became so terrific.
Re: Paul: “Another question for the gang, what is it (specifically) about Andy's writing that has caught your fancy?” First persons narrative. Told once on Allreaders: Andy takes you by the hand and you’re with him at his tail all the way through these exiting adventures (I guess that’s why there’s no sex in it – sorry – inside joke) You see everything he sees and he explains (yes, teacher) what he’s doing and why. I also said that he is so realistic and believable that he ‘ruined’ the fun of reading other writers of similar subjects. (I like Chris Ryan too though but I prefer Andy’s style). This for the reason you mentioned too Paul:
“99.9% of movies action scenes are portrayed so badly it's quite hard to watch. I'm a bit of a pain in the arse when I'm watching war flicks etc because I sit there saying "Oh come on!! that rifle doesn't fire like that “
He ‘caused’ me questioning everything. And maybe I can’t put my finger to particular actions that are not correct, the doubt is enough to ‘spoil’ things.
Re: “Buddy: baddies never shoot straight and the goodies have 'guided' bullets = impossible shots...Pure fantasy, but then, the average non-expert munitions-minded person, (looking to escapism through movies) goes for the entertainment factor” Money talking… But they make a lot of money because lots of people want to see those movies. Without questioning. Their choice.
Re: Buddy : Do you know I read the article, never thought to question it before scanning, copying, and posting to board. / and the publisher just briefly scans end product “ Oops Buddy ;-)
Re: Am-I-Binned: “I find it very difficult to believe that someone who has managed to change wives so often would actually have managed to find and maintain a permanent relationship with the same ghost-writer since the very beginning” Or you just found the perfect way to maintain relationships – Just writing together. (Suddenly FF pops into my head again.. I wonder why.)
Re: timestamps There are no timestamps on my screen either. Only the ones you placed yourself.
Re: Am- I-Binned: US version of Liberation Day showing Amazon.com on my screen.
Re: Am-I-Binned: cover art Mine are different. All show a picture of a guy in action pose. Imm.Action, B20, Total Control and Crisis Four show picture of Andy (made by Robin Matthews), the other books show pictures of another unrecognisable “Action Man”.
Re: Paul: I've just been reading the allreaders message (…)Am-I-Binned, you handled yourself quite well with DTO's messages, and Buddy.......hahaha! If words could be loaded & fired....."magic bullet" responses. I like it. And Lynn, nice diversion tactics, I'd take you guys on board anytime. We make a great team. We’re all different but complementary in skills. We’re like boat, mountain and air troop (picked random). Mobility is vacant, interested Paul?? Together we’ll probably be called F Troop :-) Re: Buddy: Chris Ryan, Anyone got his number (?) I’m sure anyone does, question is who?
Re: Paul: Imodium… Ahhh, memories..... I’m not sure I want you to share these memories.
Re: be likin’ hiz stuff lots! Thank you! Now my language problems don’t seem so bad anymore!!
Re: Am-I-Binned: mistake about US houses/homes. Anybody know what it is or want to venture a guess? Guessing: division of the house? In movies/TV (that’s where I know US houses from) it looks like when front door is opened one steps right into the living room. I don’t believe everything I see in movies so you could tell us if that’s reality. “Our” houses have hallways and stairs first, then another door to the living room and/or kitchen.
I hope I made up for my absence. Take care y’all (language??) and ‘till soon. Bye,
>>By Lynn (Wednesday, 26 Feb 2003 13:24)
(Australia- 2306hrs 26/02/03) Buddy, St Johns Brigade hey? Ohhh baby.... Not sure if I'll follow suit & write, however another thorn in MoD's arse is tempting. Mobility in F Troop sounds great to me Lynn. And don't worry, those Imodium memories are staying with me for sure. Wouldn't want to "dump" them on you. (-ohmigod that was poor. again, fire at will.)
take care, speak soon. good to have you back Lynn.
>>By Paul R (Wednesday, 26 Feb 2003 14:06)
W, 26/2/03 (8:30am EST US)
'Morning, All! (Well, morning for me at least -- can't believe I'm so far behind you all -- big grin at own GMT joke! Oh, no, I'm exhibiting the first warning signs of sleep deprivation these days--I'm cracking me up!)
Got to say, this just keeps getting betterer and more betterer! And, good grief, Lynn, you had me rolling with FF and CR, but especially with "F" Troop! (Paul, do you know that this was an old situation comedy series?)
Ooooh, Lynn, you are very, very close! In fact, you did hit it but you just don't know you did. Tempted to say if you had had any of them close on you, you would know the answer.... (and somebody better be getting these had had that that so so you you jokes or I'm gonna keep it up 'til you do! Subtle sledgehammer technique skillfully wielded....ah, truly the American way!
Thanks muchly, All, for all the big grins this morning -- you're definitely the bestest!
>>By am-i-binned (Wednesday, 26 Feb 2003 14:57)
W, 26/2/03 (6:05pm EST US)
F Troop, eh? Let's see...."fearsome" being one of Andy's most oft-used adjectives -- (the idjit grins) -- "Fearsome Foursome" ? Swedish reader, we haven't heard from you lately! Care to make it a "Fivesome"?
>>By am-i-binned (Thursday, 27 Feb 2003 00:07)
Still Wednesday, just...
Welcome back Lynn, you're on the ball batting good!!
Am-I-Binned's house question: The only thing I thought as rather odd in Crisis Four, was when Nick went through the backdoor to lift Sarah: he didn't have a fly-screen to contend with whilst fiddling the lock.
I hate had had, and loathe have have, pray that that is not too too hard to grasp; and though much much more could be said, I'll bite my lip and chew on my tongue. Come come now, this is gettin' all so so silly... No no, I beg to differ, for what I said said it all, if I can see it it jars the eye, if I speak it it lessens vocabulary. Well well, to be sure this thread is gettin' awful awful tedious; best then to say: night night...
>>By buddy (Thursday, 27 Feb 2003 00:55)
Just following along ever so. Ghost writing, do you all think McNab uses a ghos t writer? I don' think so. Based on his style and mannerisms. The detail and discriptions of his writing are all very real, ie: when he chews the bad guys face off in RC. I wondered at the time if AM may have had to do such a thing.
>>By Drop -In (Thursday, 27 Feb 2003 00:55)
W, 26/2/03 (8:40pm EST US)
Buddy!! Buddy!!
BRILLIANT!! BRILLIANT!!
I'm sitting here grinning like a fool! I absolutely love it!!
Thank you!! Thank you!!
>>By am-i-binned (Thursday, 27 Feb 2003 02:44)
Anyone want any Irish jokes ?
Dunno 'bout brilliant Am-I-Binned, "ditty" just sort of tripped off the tongue as you might say...
Hi Drop In: (bit off tack) bitten off ears are quite common in games of rugby over here and elsewhere. See, (((whispers))) our big sporty boys don't go on the field decked out in full body armour with hard-hats like America footballers: gum-shields are all our boys wear to try and protect the pearls... I reckon if American footballers found themselves up against the "All Blacks" Kiwi rugby team, their "Hukka" alone would make most American football stars wish they had cling-film wrapped underpants!! (feel sure Paul R will back me on this) Of course, International footy players don't wear nuffink to protect'em, they just goes out there and if lucky runs like hell will three balls...
Yeah, I'd say if an SAS or ex SAS guy got in a tight spot he'd bite/eat his way out if possible. I know I would and I'm a woman...Have you all noticed though, in all the fights you see in films, you rarely see one man giving another a delta pass to the floor!!!
>>By buddy (Thursday, 27 Feb 2003 10:23)
above: Thurs **/02/03 09.16 (GMT) UK my clock!
dag nabbit how did "will" fall in to line where "with" should be...
Bad Omen(?) ! or what...
OK, shoot me down in flames for strafing American footballers..............
>>By buddy (Thursday, 27 Feb 2003 10:31)
Th, 27/2/03 (6:55am EST UK)
Buddy, Dunno what you're having for breakfast, but I gotta get some! This is way beyond coffee and toast! You are really rippin' 'n' runnin' in fine form! Must say tho', we may be dumb Yanks but your blokes have to be real numb nuts! (oooh, did I say that?!) ;o)
>>By am-i-binned (Thursday, 27 Feb 2003 13:03)
(Australia 2230hrs 27/02/03) Buddy, I totally agree about the All Blacks haka scaring shit out of the yanks, actually it'd scare the pants off most people with brains. I must admit (& of course I'm not biased at all) that I love the way our Aussies handle the haka, we just give them the 1000 yard stare before we go on to thrash them off the park!
And as for the biting, you bet it's on. If I was cornered I'd have no problem using the fangs. No rules apply.
Yeah Buddy, I'm with Am-I-Binned, can I have some of what you're having for breakfast? (grin) It might sharpen me up at work.
Take care, speak soon
>>By Paul R (Thursday, 27 Feb 2003 13:29)
Sweden 27 febr 2003
Hello again!
Paul please tell us more about the Four Corners documentary!
Buddy do you know Andy? If you do - please ask him to join us here.
Yesterday I bought the book "silent Heroes" written by Graeme Stewart. Has any of you read it?
Am i binned You´re really doing your homework, finding out so much!
I´m so curious about what happend to Nick after the end of "Firewall"...
Sounds ridiculous that Americans don´t understand Uk- or Aussieenglish. I agree with Buddy. How in God`s name can American people understand the rest of the world?
I think Andy should play Nick Stone! But I know (from an interview) that he doesn´t want to.
About different versions: The Swedish version of Remote Control has the 4 extra pages and the same story about the t-shirt. Can some of the differences in the versions have something to do with the number of pages or something like that?
I think the UK-version is Mcnab himself.
I don´t think there is a ghostwriter.
I love his books because of his language and his descriptions of everything and it´s fun to guess what´s true and what´s made up.
Do you know anything about the videogames?
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